LIMITLESS POWER

[TheVoid619]

At a glance:

Main Sweeper:

Limitless (Kyurem-Black) @ Choice Band
Trait: Teravolt
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 40 HP / 252 Atk / 216 Spd
Adamant Nature
- Outrage
- Fusion Bolt
- Dragon Claw
- Stone Edge
With a MASSIVE attack stat of 170, plus the power boost of a Choice Band, Kyurem-B being OU is scary as hell. STAB boosted, Choice Band Outrage will WRECK SHIT UP. Most Steel types won't switch in on Kyurem-Black, because even with the resistance to the hit, they can't take two outrages. Fusion Bolt gives a bit of coverage, and allows me to sweep if the opponent has a few steels, but no elec resistances remaining. It also allows me to switch in against Pokemon like Skarmory and OHKO without needing support, which is a big plus, especially due to the Dragon resist in Skarmory. Dragon Claw allows me to get a quick KO, then switch without being locked in. Stone Edge helps a bit with coverage, though admittedly isn't used much. However, with the lack of physical moves, it felt like the best option.

Core/Support:

Helen Hunt (Tornadus) (M) @ Focus Sash
Trait: Prankster
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Taunt
- Focus Blast
- Tailwind
Tornadus's main focus is to set up a Tailwind on the same turn it dies. Usually, by setting this up, Kyurem-Black will be able to wreck 2-3 Pokemon without an issue, and forces my opponent to just sacrifice Pokemon. If the opponent no longer has resists to either Outrage or Fusion Bolt, setting up a Tailwind usually means the battle's already over. Taunt will force attacks on Tornadus. With Prankster, taunting the opponent, then letting Tornadus drop to 1hp (with sash), I'm guaranteed to abuse Tailwind without an issue. Hurricane and Focus Blast are for attacking enemies that Tornadus can easily handle, without risking it to an opponent and losing my Kyurem-Black support.

Hypnotoad (Politoed) @ Leftovers
Trait: Drizzle
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SDef
Serious Nature
- Scald
- Perish Song
- Toxic
- Protect
Politoad's main focus is to set up Rain for Tornadus's Hurricane, as well as to be a special wall. Toxic and Perish Song help deal with bulky walls/set-up threats respectively, with Protect compliments these all too well. Scald is a great damage dealing move, and allows potential burns on steel and poison types that are immune to the toxic.

Spinneronni (Forretress) @ Leftovers
Trait: Sturdy
EVs: 252 HP / 176 Def / 80 SDef
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spd
- Rapid Spin
- Stealth Rock
- Volt Switch
- Gyro Ball
Pretty standard, Forretress's main job is to spin away those pesky Stealth Rocks that take away 25% of Tornadus and Kyurem's HP. Setting up rocks of my own also help deal with heavy threats. Volt Switch and Gyro Ball are pretty standard on Forretress, for good reason. A slow Volt Switch allows Forretress absorb anything I don't want to switch into, while Gyro Ball does a nice bit of damage.

Rounding out the team:

Bialla (Alakazam) @ Life Orb
Trait: Magic Guard
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 Spd / 252 SAtk / 4 HP
Timid Nature
- Focus Blast
- Psychic
- Shadow Ball
- Hidden Power [Ice]
Alakazam is an amazing Pokemon. With its high speed stat, it outspeeds a lot of non-scarf'd Pokemon. Coupling it's speed is its heavy special attack and the ability to use Life Orb without recoil. The moveset is pretty standard, allowing it to deal with most Pokemon in the OU metagame. The "strange" move here is HP Ice, which is mostly there to deal with Pokemon like Gliscor and Landorus, whom tend to post problems for Kyurem-Black with their high defense/intimidate (respectively).

Bull Shit (Terrakion) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Justified
EVs: 252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 SDef
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Earthquake
- X-Scissor
Pretty standard Choice-Scarf Terrakion, this thing is a MONSTER. Terrakion easily deals with most, if not all, of the Pokemon that threaten Kyurem-Black. Steel types? Close Combat. Ground types? Most can't take more than 2 hits (except Gliscor, but we're not talking about him :D) Supportive Pokemon? Most of the good support Pokemon are bulky grass types. X-Scissor handles most of them, aside from Ferrothorn. Earthquake may seem a little redundant, but it's literally there just for Jirachi.

Notes:
There are a few Pokemon I have trouble breaking through, but I can't remember them off the top of my head. I remember there literally only being two that I look at and think "...Oh crap this is gonna be a challenge.". The fun part of this team is that, despite being based around Kyurem-Black, I've gotten Alakazam, Terrakion, and Tornadus sweeps before.

Suggestions:

If you replace Taunt with Rain Dance on Tornadus, you're free to bring in a replacement for Politoed to take out Scizor. Jirachi can replace Politoed as a special wall, and it's Fire Punch will definitely give Scizor something to worry about, threatening a 2HKO. Plus, it can pass massive wishes, which will heal your other pokemon. Just make sure you don't Rain Dance until Scizor isn't a threat- The debuff to fire type moves means you might need 4 turns to KO it.

 

[John the Aussie]

seems prity good only two problems
1. you have no pokemon with setup moves ie dragon dance swords dance watever
2. you are without a true water pokemon so as to abuse the rain. if your aiming for a rain team you really need something to take advantage of water type moves getting a boost from rain and S.T.A.B

 

[Nemusus]

Just a quick note: If Kyurem-B takes any prior damage from Stealth Rocks, Sand, a pokemon sacrificing itself to do a little damage, anything, Choice Band Scizor can KO easily with Bullet Punch. Even if you're at full health, Scizor can take one outrage and then OHKO with Superpower. Bullet Punch also takes care of Alakazam and Terrakion without any trouble, and Pursuit even stops Alakazam from switching out. He also gets a 2HKO on Tornadus with Bullet Punch.

If you replace Taunt with Rain Dance on Tornadus, you're free to bring in a replacement for Politoed to take out Scizor. Jirachi can replace Politoed as a special wall, and it's Fire Punch will definitely give Scizor something to worry about, threatening a 2HKO. Plus, it can pass massive wishes, which will heal your other pokemon. Just make sure you don't Rain Dance until Scizor isn't a threat- The debuff to fire type moves means you might need 4 turns to KO it.

 

[TheVoid619]

seems prity good only two problems
1. you have no pokemon with setup moves ie dragon dance swords dance watever
2. you are without a true water pokemon so as to abuse the rain. if your aiming for a rain team you really need something to take advantage of water type moves getting a boost from rain and S.T.A.B

1| This team can't really use set-up sweepers. Terrakion and Kyurem are choiced, and Alakazam is a glass cannon, it's not worth it to try to set up a calm mind.
2| This isn't a rain team, it's a team based around Kyurem-Black. Politoad is here to compliment Tornadus, as well as to be a great special wall.

Just a quick note: If Kyurem-B takes any prior damage from Stealth Rocks, Sand, a pokemon sacrificing itself to do a little damage, anything, Choice Band Scizor can KO easily with Bullet Punch. Even if you're at full health, Scizor can take one outrage and then OHKO with Superpower. Bullet Punch also takes care of Alakazam and Terrakion without any trouble, and Pursuit even stops Alakazam from switching out. He also gets a 2HKO on Tornadus with Bullet Punch.

If you replace Taunt with Rain Dance on Tornadus, you're free to bring in a replacement for Politoed to take out Scizor. Jirachi can replace Politoed as a special wall, and it's Fire Punch will definitely give Scizor something to worry about, threatening a 2HKO. Plus, it can pass massive wishes, which will heal your other pokemon. Just make sure you don't Rain Dance until Scizor isn't a threat- The debuff to fire type moves means you might need 4 turns to KO it.

This is a great idea. Strangely, I haven't come across ANY Scizors in testing, so I completely forgot about it. I'll definitely test this.

 

[TheVoid619]

So, I found that Jirachi is a terrible idea. It looks good on paper, but it's not working in testing. I've lost every match since replacing Politoad.

I have also found that the Ferrothorn Jellicent core is a major issue, and that I suffer heavily from Thunder Wave. It feels like most of my Pokemon are glass cannons, but maybe it's just my play style.

 

[Kidogo]

Yeah, don't replace toed haha. It's OK not to have a water-type mon, it's just that as they get a buff there's a big incentive to use them. One thing you could try that really helps vs scizor is scarf keldeo > scarf terra--they can revenge most of the same threats, but keldeo is stronger due to rain and resists BP instead of being weak to it. Try out a moveset of Hpump / Surf / Secret Sword / Hidden Power [Ice].

IMO, tornadus isn't necessarily worth a teamslot as is. Tailwind is awesome, but not really worth 1/6 of the team for a 1-time use of it. Additionally, due to prankster, tornadus doesn't need the focus sash--you get priority vs faster opps anyway, and it misses the power of LO.

Forry is in a bit of a weird spot here. First of all, it's p much only reliable as a defensive wall--move the SpD EVs to def if you decide to keep it. Second, are you sure you want such an offensively impotent mon as your spinner? This is a fairly offensive team, and I'm not sure it fits. I'll get to what I suggest instead below.

As with forry, alakazam could potentially be removed for something else. It doesn't offer anything in terms of defensive capabilities and exacerbates your weakness to scizor.

So here's my major suggestion: What if you replace forretress with tentacruel, alakazam with a SpD steel such as rachi, and change toed's set to a specs set? Here are some advantages:
Tentacruel is a perfect check to scizor, resisting all its common moves and 2-3HKOing with scald in rain.
Tentacruel is a more consistent spinner than forry because it has double recovery due to Rain Dish, so it is less prone to being worn down.
Tenta + rachi form a nice defensive core that's a lot more solid than forry + toed
Toed can smash holes with specs and rain-boosted hpumps
Toed can also use tailwind boosts to sweep
If you do choose to go with this, I'd recommend a spread of HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe Modest on toed with Hpump / Ice Beam / Focus Blast / move of your choice (HP grass, encore, psong, toxic, psychic). Tenta should be max HP max Def with 16 Spe, scald / rapid spin / 2 out of toxic / protect / substitute. Rachi should be max HP / Max SpD with 16 Spe, SR / Thunder(wave) or Body Slam / 2 out of Iron Head / Wish / Protect / U-turn. I know this is a big change, but I think it'd really help improve the team.

GL, and hope my rate helped.

 

[TheVoid619]

Yeah, don't replace toed haha. It's OK not to have a water-type mon, it's just that as they get a buff there's a big incentive to use them. One thing you could try that really helps vs scizor is scarf keldeo > scarf terra--they can revenge most of the same threats, but keldeo is stronger due to rain and resists BP instead of being weak to it. Try out a moveset of Hpump / Surf / Secret Sword / Hidden Power [Ice].

IMO, tornadus isn't necessarily worth a teamslot as is. Tailwind is awesome, but not really worth 1/6 of the team for a 1-time use of it. Additionally, due to prankster, tornadus doesn't need the focus sash--you get priority vs faster opps anyway, and it misses the power of LO.

Forry is in a bit of a weird spot here. First of all, it's p much only reliable as a defensive wall--move the SpD EVs to def if you decide to keep it. Second, are you sure you want such an offensively impotent mon as your spinner? This is a fairly offensive team, and I'm not sure it fits. I'll get to what I suggest instead below.

As with forry, alakazam could potentially be removed for something else. It doesn't offer anything in terms of defensive capabilities and exacerbates your weakness to scizor.

So here's my major suggestion: What if you replace forretress with tentacruel, alakazam with a SpD steel such as rachi, and change toed's set to a specs set? Here are some advantages:
Tentacruel is a perfect check to scizor, resisting all its common moves and 2-3HKOing with scald in rain.
Tentacruel is a more consistent spinner than forry because it has double recovery due to Rain Dish, so it is less prone to being worn down.
Tenta + rachi form a nice defensive core that's a lot more solid than forry + toed
Toed can smash holes with specs and rain-boosted hpumps
Toed can also use tailwind boosts to sweep
If you do choose to go with this, I'd recommend a spread of HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe Modest on toed with Hpump / Ice Beam / Focus Blast / move of your choice (HP grass, encore, psong, toxic, psychic). Tenta should be max HP max Def with 16 Spe, scald / rapid spin / 2 out of toxic / protect / substitute. Rachi should be max HP / Max SpD with 16 Spe, SR / Thunder(wave) or Body Slam / 2 out of Iron Head / Wish / Protect / U-turn. I know this is a big change, but I think it'd really help improve the team.

GL, and hope my rate helped.

I will definitely test this!

 

[joshe]

You should use Ice Beam over Stone Edge on Kyurem-B. Ice Beam OHKOs both Gliscor and Landorus-t and benefits you more than Stone Edge. A rock move isn't really needed as you smash everything except the bulkiest of steels with outrage anyway. this frees up Alakazam's spot for something else to support Kyurem-b and Tornadus, such as the Tentacruel that kidogo suggested. I'll also just touch up a bit on kidogo's suggestions because i have the time :). You dont need Focus Sash on Tornadus at all and you're better off with the added power of Life Orb to either clean up where kyurem-b left off. I would suggest U-turn over Taunt though with a positive speed nature (naive or timid) as it pairs well with the jirachi set that kidogo suggested. With 2 U-turners you should have a much easier time getting kyurem-b in for free and forcing whatever switches in to die or get 2HKOd.

As for anything else, try out rock slide over earthquake on terrakion just for a second reliable stab that can handily take care of volcarona if it gets a quiver dance and gives you a second option to clean up if you dont want to use close combat.

good luck with your team :)

 

[TheVoid619]

You should use Ice Beam over Stone Edge on Kyurem-B. Ice Beam OHKOs both Gliscor and Landorus-t and benefits you more than Stone Edge. A rock move isn't really needed as you smash everything except the bulkiest of steels with outrage anyway. this frees up Alakazam's spot for something else to support Kyurem-b and Tornadus, such as the Tentacruel that kidogo suggested. I'll also just touch up a bit on kidogo's suggestions because i have the time :). You dont need Focus Sash on Tornadus at all and you're better off with the added power of Life Orb to either clean up where kyurem-b left off. I would suggest U-turn over Taunt though with a positive speed nature (naive or timid) as it pairs well with the jirachi set that kidogo suggested. With 2 U-turners you should have a much easier time getting kyurem-b in for free and forcing whatever switches in to die or get 2HKOd.

As for anything else, try out rock slide over earthquake on terrakion just for a second reliable stab that can handily take care of volcarona if it gets a quiver dance and gives you a second option to clean up if you dont want to use close combat.

good luck with your team :)

Would Ice Beam really OHKO Landerous? What nature should I put on Kyurem then?
Terrakion already has Stone Edge, I don't need Rock Slide. EQ allows me to deal heavy damage onto Jirachi, which I do have a problem dealing with due to its constant paralysis.

 

[joshe]

just throw ice beam over stone edge and keep the adamant nature

0- SpA Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 200 HP / 0 SpD Landorus-T: 516-612 (139.83 - 165.85%) -- guaranteed OHKO

0- SpA Kyurem-B Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Gliscor: 544-648 (153.67 - 183.05%) -- guaranteed OHKO

edit: standard defensive tentacruel onsite :o like 248 hp / 232 Def / 28 spd with BOLD nature to tank scizor u-turns better among many other attacks.

 

[TheVoid619]

Yeah, don't replace toed haha. It's OK not to have a water-type mon, it's just that as they get a buff there's a big incentive to use them. One thing you could try that really helps vs scizor is scarf keldeo > scarf terra--they can revenge most of the same threats, but keldeo is stronger due to rain and resists BP instead of being weak to it. Try out a moveset of Hpump / Surf / Secret Sword / Hidden Power [Ice].

IMO, tornadus isn't necessarily worth a teamslot as is. Tailwind is awesome, but not really worth 1/6 of the team for a 1-time use of it. Additionally, due to prankster, tornadus doesn't need the focus sash--you get priority vs faster opps anyway, and it misses the power of LO.

Forry is in a bit of a weird spot here. First of all, it's p much only reliable as a defensive wall--move the SpD EVs to def if you decide to keep it. Second, are you sure you want such an offensively impotent mon as your spinner? This is a fairly offensive team, and I'm not sure it fits. I'll get to what I suggest instead below.

As with forry, alakazam could potentially be removed for something else. It doesn't offer anything in terms of defensive capabilities and exacerbates your weakness to scizor.

So here's my major suggestion: What if you replace forretress with tentacruel, alakazam with a SpD steel such as rachi, and change toed's set to a specs set? Here are some advantages:
Tentacruel is a perfect check to scizor, resisting all its common moves and 2-3HKOing with scald in rain.
Tentacruel is a more consistent spinner than forry because it has double recovery due to Rain Dish, so it is less prone to being worn down.
Tenta + rachi form a nice defensive core that's a lot more solid than forry + toed
Toed can smash holes with specs and rain-boosted hpumps
Toed can also use tailwind boosts to sweep
If you do choose to go with this, I'd recommend a spread of HP / 252 SpA / 216 Spe Modest on toed with Hpump / Ice Beam / Focus Blast / move of your choice (HP grass, encore, psong, toxic, psychic). Tenta should be max HP max Def with 16 Spe, scald / rapid spin / 2 out of toxic / protect / substitute. Rachi should be max HP / Max SpD with 16 Spe, SR / Thunder(wave) or Body Slam / 2 out of Iron Head / Wish / Protect / U-turn. I know this is a big change, but I think it'd really help improve the team.

GL, and hope my rate helped.

I just realized... did you mean SpD Tentacruel and Def Jirachi? Tentacruel has a base 65 Def, but 130 SpD. I'm gonna test it the way I just said, but I need to clarify.