Monotype Mantine (Water)

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Mantine's superb Special Defense and HP stats and access to utility moves such as Defog, Haze, and Roost make it a great wall on Water balance teams, taking on foes such as Volcarona, Hydreigon, and Hatterene. It can form a potent defensive core with Pokemon such as Swampert, Slowking, and Toxapex. Mantine's Flying typing provides a key neutrality to Grass as well as an immunity to Ground; this makes it effective against foes such as Swampert and Choice Scarf Excadrill locked into Earthquake, which its teammates appreciate. It's held back by its its 4x weakness to Electric, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as Victini and Nidoking that carry Electric-type coverage. Mantine's passivity also leads to a tremendous loss of momentum whenever it enters the field. Special wallbreakers such as Choice Specs Tapu Lele and Choice Specs Zapdos take advantage of this, being able to freely switch in on Mantine and release powerful attacks that can severely damage Mantine or its teammates.

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Haze
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
Scald prevents Mantine from being completely passive and prohibits physical attackers such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in recklessly, as they risk being burned. Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder, letting it reliably switch into and deal with setup sweepers like Keldeo, Hatterene, and Volcarona. Roost allows it to consistently wall foes such as Galarian Moltres and Volcarona and reliably clear entry hazards throughout the game. Mantine has enough Speed investment to outpace Adamant Azumarill, allowing it to use Haze before Azumarill attacks it.

Mantine enjoys the presence of Toxapex to take on physical attackers such as Dragapult and Mimikyu. In return, Mantine can check potent special attackers such as Choice Scarf Tapu Lele. Swampert is able to check Electric-types such as Regieleki and Zeraora while also being able to set Stealth Rock. Gastrodon is also an option in lieu of Swampert, as it is able to check prominent threats to Mantine's team such as Tapu Koko while also having reliable recovery. Slowking is able to switch into powerful Psychic-types like Latios and Choice Specs Tapu Lele, which can otherwise overpower Mantine. Urshifu-R and Keldeo also appreciate Mantine switching in on certain Psychic- and Fairy-type special attackers such as Tapu Lele and Hatterene that threaten them. In return, they can defeat foes such as Bisharp and Terrakion, respectively, for Mantine. Wallbreakers such as Crawdaunt and Tapu Fini appreciate Mantine's Defog, which allows them to enter the field safely to defeat walls that pressure Mantine such as Toxapex, Mandibuzz, and Chansey. Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it provides an Electric immunity and Heal Bell support while also taking on Choice Specs Zapdos more reliably and providing slow Volt Switch support to the team. However, it should be noted that Lanturn is primarily seen on stall teams. Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Tapu Fini, Cloyster, and Suicune welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes, which jeopardize their ability to set up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
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Toxic can be used over Haze; however, this makes Mantine setup fodder for foes that are either immune to Toxic or use Substitute, such as Spectrier. Mantine can also use Water Veil as an ability, preventing Spectrier from burning it.

Checks and Counters
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**Physical Wallbreakers**: Many physical attackers such as Choice Band Rillaboom and Bisharp can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's average Defense stat.

**Stallbreakers**: Many stallbreakers such as Tapu Fini and Mew prevent Mantine from using Defog and restoring health via Roost.

**Toxic**: Many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex can Toxic stall Mantine, as it normally doesn't run Toxic itself. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, letting it obstruct Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost. Toxic also generally puts Mantine on a timer and prevents it from easily coming in and using Defog.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]
- Water analysis by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]]
- Quality checked by: [[Maple, 473171], [Harpp,320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429], [Estronic, 240732]]

 

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[OVERVIEW]

-> Mantine's superb Special Defence,(RC) and HP stat coupled with its ability to use fundamental and access to utility moves such as Defog and Roost allows Mantine to be a great special wall on Water teams. come one of Water's most outstanding special walls.
* Mention its Ability giving it opportunities to come in on Water types to remove entry hazards.
* I feel like mentioning the playstyle is important, it tells the reader that its not used on weather-based teams. More balanced Water teams. Mentioning that it synergizes well with a Swampert and Toxapex is also useful as well!
-> Mantine can also threaten incoming Physical Attackers physical attackers such as Bisharp, Dragapult, and Zarude with Scald Burns burns, precluding them from switching in freely.
-> Mantine can extend its longevity using Roost, allowing it to routinely remove hazards like Stealth Rock throughout a battle. Just keep this in the moves paragraph, you mentioned Roost in the beginning and I personally do not feel like its needed.
-> Mantine's Flying type permits it to provide a key neutrality to Grass, which its teammates appreciate.
-> It also grants Mantine a key immunity to Ground moves, which is important as Water has no Pokemon that resist Ground. Can you merged these two points into one
-> Mantine is held back by its dependence on HDB to prevent it from taking Stealth Rock Damage, as well as its 4x weakness to Electric moves and its low defence stat, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as Kommo-o and Zeraora. I feel like HDB is actually amazing for Mantine. Looking at SM, its heavily pressured if anything to come in on Stealth Rock. It doesn't like its item being removed but that pretty much goes for all of its items? Just talk about its 4x Electric weakness and poor defense allowing physical attackers like Zeraora and abc to force it out.

- This Pokemon faces competition with Pelipper, make a sentence about that

The first four sentences start with "Mantine", well 4/5 of the sentences do, try to use some other words to make it less boring

[SET]
name: Defensive Support (Water)
move 1: Defog
move 2: Haze
move 3: Scald
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Roost
move 4: Haze
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
rearrange in order of the moves.
-> Defog allows Mantine to remove entry hazards for its teammates, protecting them from taking chip damage over the course of a battle.
-> Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder for foes such as Dragonite, Hatterene, and Volcarona. Replace this with like Keldeo or Glastrier or something, +1 outrage to a non-phy wall sounds yikes
-> Scald prohibits opposing Physical Attackers(this does not need to be capitalized) such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in risklessly (recklessly?), as they may risk being burned.
-> Roost enable longevity for Mantinegives Mantine longevity, allowing it to consistantly(grammar) wall foes such as Choice Specs(choice specs is not a "foe". just say "wall special wallbreakers such as keldeo and something else. no need to say "foes") as well as provide Hazard removal throughout the battle. and use Defog.
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-> Mantine has enough Speed Investment to outpace Adamant Azumarill, allowing Mantine to use Haze before Azumarill can annihilate Mantine's teammates.
-> The rest of Mantine's EVs were put into HP and Special Defence, making it as bulky as possible while reducing the damage taken from Stealth Rock should Mantine's item be removed.
-> Mantine's Calm nature further increases its ability to wall adverse Special Attackers such as Hatterene and Choice Specs Hydreigon.
-> Mantine's Attack IVs allow it to take less damage from Foul Play users such as Mandibuzz. Four points for EVs is excessive. Check the pins in the Monotype analysis-discussion channel by CyroGyro on tips for evs. Pretty sure this only needs 1-2 sentences.
-> Heavy-Duty Boots prevent Mantine from taking hazard damage, as it severely lessens Mantine's longevity. This goes before the EVs.

Team Options
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- Relevant -> Irrelevant. Pex/Swampert should be at the beginning. Put the random niche stall mons at the VERY end of this paragraph.
- Say all teammates appreciates mantines defog support as 1st sentence. you can prob put the ground immunity here also.
-> Swampert is able to switch into many check Electric-types Electric-Type foes such as Regieleki and Zeraora, as it is immune to their only STAB move. Mantine also doesn't like rock-types or attacks in general. part ground typing is nice for resist
-> In return, Mantine is able to switch in to many Grass-Type pokemon such as Appletun and Celebi. What happens after Mantine switches into these Grass-types? Celebi nasty plots and attacks and keeps doing it , recovers burn by switching out. appletun is not a good example at all. idk prob just remove this point imo.
-> Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it are immune to Electric-Type moves and remove Status from Mantine via Heal Bell. something like "Lanturn can check special Electric-types like Alolan Raichu and Tapu Koko and remove status ailments from Mantine with Heal Bell." sounds better." You can probably merge the next sentence with this. Remove the Grass neutralities.
-> Mantine further supports Lanturn by providing a Ground immunity as well as a Grass Neutrality, which Lanturn appreciates.
-> Azumarill appreciates Mantine's ability to clear away hazards from the field.
-> In turn(grammar), Sap Sipper Azumarill takes pressure off Mantine as a Grass Neutrality, and can administer(?) a switchin to and trap foes such as Choiced Rillaboom and Ferrothorn. (rephrase this. idt you need to say "takes pressure off" just say what it does. its niche, doesn't need the fluff.)
-> Mantine greatly appriciates the presence of Toxapex to take on Physical Attackers such as Dragon Dance Dragapult, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory.
-> Toxapex also enjoys having Mantine on its team, as Mantine is immune to the Ground-Type moves that would otherwise threaten Toxapex and can also take Future Sight from Slowking-Galar. Talk about how they synergize. With the comment of ground immunity and support going in the first sentences, I don't feel like its needed to keep saying what mantine does. Talk about how pex deals with phy attackers like abc and how mantine does it for spa attackers. When I look at Skarmory and Ferrothorn, they run physical attacks yeah but both pex and mantine threatens it with scald burns already..id prefer another example.
-> Both often carry Haze, which allows a utility move to be used on either Pokemon.
-> Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Primarina, Calm Mind Keldeo, and Bulk Up Urshifu welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes that would otherwise jeopardize their ability to set up.
* Slowking should have its own sentence at the beginning
* Tapu Fini should be mentioned. Primarina does not warrant a mention at all
* Bulk Up Urshifu-R is rare and it should have its own line or slap it in a line with Keldeo.
* Gastrodon should have a line after Swampert
* Mention Wallbreakers like Dracovish and Crawdaunt


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
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-> Maximum Special Defence EVs can be used, but Mantine rarely needs them due to its outstanding natural bulk.
-> Toxic can be used over Haze, however this makes Mantine setup fodder.
You mention a lot of stall examples in your teammates and your OO section should reflect this also. Mantine doesn't like Spectrier at all, and once its status'd its over honestly. Mention Water Veil as anti-will-o-wisp.
Checks and Counters
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**Physical Attackers**: Many Physical Attackers can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's poor defence stat. examples. don't need to start this out with "many phy atks" either

**Stallbreakers**: Many stall breakers such as Tapu Fini prevent Mantine from defogging hazards away and restoring heath via Roost, forcing Mantine to rely on its weak recovery moves.

**Super Effective Moves**: Mantine is especially vulnerable to Super Effective moves, as Lycanroc-Dusk and Tapu Koko can easily OHKO Mantine with their Electric- and Rock- Type attacks. Elaborate and go in depth. Electric-types. Rock-types.

Make a section for Dragon-types and one for Grass-types.

**Walls*: As it doesn't run Toxic, Mantine loses against many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex, as they are able to Toxic stall it. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, obstructing Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost.

 

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I feel like HDB is actually amazing for Mantine. Looking at SM, its heavily pressured if anything to come in on Stealth Rock. It doesn't like its item being removed but that pretty much goes for all of its items? Just talk about its 4x Electric weakness and poor defense allowing physical attackers like Zeraora and abc to force it out.

While I was originally somwhat reluctant to include this portion, not all Pokémon rely heavily on items. For example, Toxapex doesn't need Black Sludge to be successful, and doesn't rely on it due to it's access to recover. In contrast, Mantine requires Heavy-Duty Boots in order to enter the field after Stealth Rock has been set.

- This Pokemon faces competition with Pelipper, make a sentence about that

Despite both having the same typing, I do not think Pelipper and Mantine share the same roles as Pelipper is often used as a defensive Rain setter, and Mantine is used on teams where a Ground immunity requires more utility. I feel this because Pelipper and Mantine's common teammates clearly show that they are not interchangale and usually appear on very different archtypes.

Common Teammates for Pelliper above 1760 ELO

* Teammates that appear on Rain Teams are in Bold
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike 63.394%
Barraskewda 59.690%
Tapu Fini 55.778%
Dracovish 48.457%
Swampert 47.778%
Toxapex 45.446%
Crawdaunt 31.156%
Kingdra 24.373%
Seismitoad 20.594%
Slowking 17.230%
Lanturn 8.898%

Common Teammates for Mantine above 1760 ELO

*Teammates that appear on Stall are Bolded

Toxapex 95.463%
Slowking 70.666%
Slowbro 51.704%
Lanturn 51.158%
Quagsire 49.647%
Urshifu-Rapid-Strike 40.574%
Swampert 27.205%
Tapu Fini 20.547%
Rotom-Wash 17.226%
Dracovish 15.234%
Gastrodon 12.957%

Four points for EVs is excessive

The framework for the analysis mentions to explain why the nature is the way it is, and I think explaining the Bulk, Speed Investment, and IVs is also relevant to the analysis.

Mentioning that it synergizes well with a Swampert and Toxapex is also useful as well!

See teammates section

Elaborate and go in depth. Electric-types. Rock-types.

I don't know what this means, could you rephrase it? I've already listed examples of Electric-Types and Rock-Types that beat Mantine, so I'm unsure of what you're suggsting.

Make a section for Dragon-types and one for Grass-types.

Mantine isn't really trying to damage them, and it walls Special Attackers on both types such as Celebi (if given a free switch) and Latios, as one will be unable to set up due to haze and the other will just have their Special Attack Dropped due to Draco Meteor.

* Mention Wallbreakers like Dracovish and Crawdaunt

Not common teammates generally. This especially applies to Crawdaunt.

* Bulk Up Urshifu-R is rare and it should have its own line or slap it in a line with Keldeo.

This is wrong, as 26.713% of Urshifu run Bulk Up according to the latest usage stats.

You can probably merge the next sentence with this.

Would rather do this after the writing phase because it helps to keep my points organized incase I missed somthing.

rearrange in order of the moves.

Requesting further explanation.

-> Both often carry Haze, which allows a utility move to be used on either Pokemon.

Requesting a reason for this, as Toxapex both Toxapex and Mantine would both enjoy to have an extra moveslot free.

* Gastrodon should have a line after Swampert

Both of these are less common then Quagsire, and Gastrodon doesn't meet the 16.45% standard of usage I usually vaugly follow when writing analysis, thus it wasn't mentioned.

Will add Slowking, include Primarina, Water Veil, and implement Grammatical Corrections.

 

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While I was originally somwhat reluctant to include this portion, not all Pokémon rely heavily on items. For example, Toxapex doesn't need Black Sludge to be successful, and doesn't rely on it due to it's access to recover. In contrast, Mantine requires Heavy-Duty Boots in order to enter the field after Stealth Rock has been set.

It felt weird mentioning it with its 4x weakness, having its item removed cripples it a lot

Despite both having the same typing, I do not think Pelipper and Mantine share the same roles as Pelipper is often used as a defensive Rain setter, and Mantine is used on teams where a Ground immunity requires more utility. I feel this because Pelipper and Mantine's common teammates clearly show that they are not interchangale and usually appear on very different archtypes.

I feel like Pelipper being in the tier does bring Mantine usage down a lot on Water teams. The ssnl stats sheets shows that Pelipper was on 98 Water teams and Mantine was only on 26. Its also used more on Flying teams because the Water Absorb is really nice for Pokemon like Urshifu-R. I also feel like they do share similar teammates actually like Slowking, Urshifu-R, Toxapex, and Swampert. If you look at some official tournament usage stats and replays as opposed to stall on ladder, you will see balanced being the more relevant playstyle for Mantine teams. Stall has had an appearance in MLT from the likes of zugubu royale and Dugza but official tournament play? or even the casual seasonal game idts which is why I feel like some of those C ranked Pokemon should be near the end of your teammates also. In terms of playstyles I agree somewhat but the 98 vs 26 number between the two Pokemon clearly shows that Pelipper is the better Water / Flying due to its pivot in u-turn and rain. You lose a lot of momentum when using Mantine also.

MWCOP
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen8monotype-550358 Mantine Water - Slowking / Urshifu-R / Toxapex / Swampert
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen8monotype-546264 Pelipper Water - Slowking / Swampert / Urshifu-R
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/smogtours-gen8monotype-553679 Pelipper Water - Slowking / Swampert / Urshifu-R

The framework for the analysis mentions to explain why the nature is the way it is, and I think explaining the Bulk, Speed Investment, and IVs is also relevant to the analysis.

gp will help you with that
"> The rest of Mantine's EVs were put into HP and Special Defence, making it as bulky as possible while reducing the damage taken from Stealth Rock should Mantine's item be removed.
-> Mantine's Calm nature further increases its ability to wall adverse Special Attackers such as Hatterene and Choice Specs Hydreigon. " these two points can surely be merged or said in lesser words

I don't know what this means, could you rephrase it? I've already listed examples of Electric-Types and Rock-Types that beat Mantine, so I'm unsure of what you're suggsting.

Well you listed Lycanrock-Dusk when stuff like Terrakion and Nihilego are higher on the VR. Electric-types like xyz beats mantine with their stab. Rock-types like abc can ohko mantine with their stab also but fears switching in risking Scald burn..this is only like two bulletpoints for "Rock-types" and "Electric-types" . Nihilego also has high spd and can switch into its scald

Mantine isn't really trying to damage them, and it walls Special Attackers on both types such as Celebi (if given a free switch) and Latios, as one will be unable to set up due to haze and the other will just have their Special Attack Dropped due to Draco Meteor.

Mantine literally does nothing to celebi and zarude and rillaboom (more relevant and higher on the vr), gets toxic'd by cradily. Mantine barely does anything to Dragon-types especially with toxic in oo...it prevents set up but like Hydreigon for examples sets up Nasty Plot and literally fishes for flinches. Substitute avoids status and Roost just recovers the burn damage off. Dragapult clicks Substitute, avoids burn, and clicks dd+darts

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If you look at some of the team tour replays, you will notice some thunder punch urshifu-r's, which is really great so you can hit water-types like Pelipper, Mantine, and Tapu Fini. Just specifying "Bulk Up" Urshifu puts a lot of emphasis to me over its other sets

Requesting further explanation.

I put scald first as precedent in the last mantine sm analysis

Requesting a reason for this, as Toxapex both Toxapex and Mantine would both enjoy to have an extra moveslot free.

myb i meant to italitcs and highlight blue + comment, gp will prob rephrase to smthn simple

Both of these are less common then Quagsire, and Gastrodon doesn't meet the 16.45% standard of usage I usually vaugly follow when writing analysis, thus it wasn't mentioned.

Gastrodon and Swampert has higher usage in actual smogon tournaments with Mantine. Its usable on stall but I don't feel like the direct thing should be a stall analysis. If Appletun is getting like 97% usage on ladder for grass but in tourplay its getting none because cradily is better, then cradily should be mentioned first & appletun should be at the end or not mentioned at all (More -> Less relevant)

 

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I also feel like they do share similar teammates actually like Slowking, Urshifu-R, Toxapex, and Swampert.

I understand where you're coming from, however I feel that usage stats are more reliable then Tournament play, especially since the people that are new to the tier and are learning Monotype are likley to start on ladder.

Mantine literally does nothing to celebi and zarude and rillaboom (more relevant and higher on the vr), gets toxic'd by cradily.

Mantine isn't trying to damage Rillaboom and Zarude. If you're clicking Scald against either of them, its in hopes that you'll burn them. As for Celebi, Azumarill has the potential to Trap it with whirlpool and eliminate it with Perish Song while using Rest for (abeit unreliable) Recovery.

Hydreigon for examples sets up Nasty Plot and literally fishes for flinches. Substitute avoids status and Roost just recovers the burn damage off. Dragapult clicks Substitute, avoids burn, and clicks dd+darts

Which is why I mentioned Primarina as a teammate. Substitute Calm Mind Primarina is an answer to Hydreigon and Dragapult.

Gastrodon and Swampert has higher usage in actual smogon tournaments with Mantine.

In addition to the reasons I stated above, ladder offers a greater sample size.

Just specifying "Bulk Up" Urshifu puts a lot of emphasis to me over its other sets

Pokémon that set up are especially vulnerable to Toxic.

hese two points can surely be merged or said in lesser words

As I have previously stated, I created these as two sentences to make it easier for QC to check the analysis and to ensure I've covered the points nessesary to make a good analysis.

98 vs 26 number between the two Pokemon clearly shows that Pelipper is the better Water / Flying due to its pivot in u-turn and rain. You lose a lot of momentum when using Mantine also.

This is why Most of Mantine's teammates are common on stall. On a stall team, Mantine is better then Pelipper due to its greater bulk and the fact that stall doesn't need the weather that rain does.

 

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Mantine (Water)

[OVERVIEW]

-> Mantine's superb Special Defence,(RC) and HP stat coupled with its ability to use fundamental and access to utility moves such as Defog, Haze, and Roost allows Mantine to be a great special wall on Water teams. come one of Water's most outstanding special walls.
* I feel like mentioning the playstyle is important, it tells the reader that its not used on weather-based teams. More balanced Water teams. Mentioning that it synergizes well with a Swampert and Toxapex is also useful as well!
-> Mantine can also threaten incoming Physical Attackers such as Bisharp, Dragapult, and Zarude with Scald Burns, precluding them from switching in freely.
-> Mantine can extend its longevity using Roost, allowing it to routinely remove hazards like Stealth Rock throughout a battle. Just keep this in the moves paragraph, you mentioned Roost in the beginning and I personally do not feel like its needed.
-> Mantine's Flying type permits it to provide a key neutrality to Grass, which its teammates appreciate.
-> It also grants Mantine a key immunity to Ground moves, which is important as Water has no Pokemon that resist Ground. Can you merged these two points into one
-> Mantine is held back by its dependence on HDB to prevent it from taking Stealth Rock Damage, as well as its 4x weakness to Electric moves and its low defence stat, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as Kommo-o and Zeraora. I feel like HDB is actually amazing for Mantine. Looking at SM, its heavily pressured if anything to come in on Stealth Rock. It doesn't like its item being removed but that pretty much goes for all of its items? Just talk about its 4x Electric weakness and poor defense allowing physical attackers like Zeraora and abc to force it out.
- This Pokemon faces competition with Pelipper, make a sentence about that [Note to Roxiee - This part isn't necessary since you already mentioned about how Mantine doesn't fit on weather-based teams and is primarily seen on balanced teams and as such Mantine and Pelipper are pretty much never seen on the same team.]

The first four sentences start with "Mantine", well 4/5 of the sentences do, try to use some other words to make it less boring

[SET]
name: Defensive Support (Water)
move 1: Defog
move 2: Haze
move 3: Scald
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Roost
move 4: Haze
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Calm
evs: 248 HP / 164 SpD / 96 Spe 248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
rearrange in order of the moves.
-> Defog allows Mantine to remove entry hazards for its teammates, protecting them from taking chip damage over the course of a battle.
-> Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder for foes such as Dragonite, Hatterene, and Volcarona. Replace Draognite with Keldeo, +1 outrage to a non-phy wall sounds yikes
-> Scald prevents Mantine from being completely passive and prohibits opposing Physical Attackers(this does not need to be capitalized) such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in risklessly recklessly, as they may risk being burned.
-> Roost enable longevity for Mantinegives Mantine longevity, allowing it to consistantly consistently wall foes such as Choice Specs(choice specs is not a "foe". just say "wall special wallbreakers such as keldeo and something else. no need to say "foes") as well as provide Hazard removal throughout the battle. and use Defog.
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-> Mantine has enough Speed Investment to outpace Adamant Azumarill, allowing Mantine to use Haze before Azumarill can annihilate Mantine's teammates.
-> The rest of Mantine's EVs were put into HP and Special Defence, making it as bulky as possible while reducing the damage taken from Stealth Rock should Mantine's item be removed.
-> Mantine's Calm nature further increases its ability to wall adverse Special Attackers such as Hatterene and Choice Specs Hydreigon.
-> Mantine's Attack IVs allow it to take less damage from Foul Play users such as Mandibuzz.
[Four points for EVs is excessive. Check the pins in the Monotype analysis-discussion channel by CyroGyro on tips for evs. Pretty sure this only needs 1-2 sentences.]
-> Heavy-Duty Boots prevent Mantine from taking hazard damage, as it severely lessens Mantine's longevity. This goes before the EVs.

Team Options
========
- Relevant -> Irrelevant. Pex/Swampert should be at the beginning. Put the random niche stall mons at the VERY end of this paragraph.
- Say all teammates appreciates mantines defog support as 1st sentence. you can prob put the ground immunity here also.
-> Swampert is able to switch into many check Electric-types Electric-Type foes such as Regieleki and Zeraora, as it is immune to their only STAB move. Mantine also doesn't like rock-types or attacks in general. part ground typing is nice for resist
-> In return, Mantine is able to switch in to many Grass-Type pokemon such as Appletun and Celebi. What happens after Mantine switches into these Grass-types? Celebi nasty plots and attacks and keeps doing it , recovers burn by switching out. appletun is not a good example at all. idk prob just remove this point imo. [To add to this, Appletun is completely unviable in Monotype, please don't use ladder usage stats for reference in the future, they're extremely inaccurate.]
-> Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it are is immune to Electric-type moves and removes Status from Mantine via Heal Bell. something like "Lanturn can check special Electric-types like Alolan Raichu and Tapu Koko and remove status ailments from Mantine with Heal Bell." sounds better." You can probably merge the next sentence about Mantine providing a Ground immunity with this. Remove the Grass neutralities.
-> Mantine further supports Lanturn by providing a Ground immunity as well as a Grass Neutrality, which Lanturn appreciates.
-> Azumarill appreciates Mantine's ability to clear away hazards from the field.
-> In turn(grammar), Sap Sipper Azumarill takes pressure off Mantine as a Grass Neutrality, and can administer(?) a switchin to and trap foes such as Choiced Rillaboom and Ferrothorn. (rephrase this. idt you need to say "takes pressure off" just say what it does. its niche, doesn't need the fluff. Move this and the Lanturn mention to the end and make sure to say these are primarily seen on stall teams only.)
-> Mantine greatly appriciates the presence of Toxapex to take on Physical Attackers such as Dragon Dance Dragapult, Ferrothorn, and Skarmory.
-> Toxapex also enjoys having Mantine on its team, as Mantine is immune to the Ground-Type moves that would otherwise threaten Toxapex and can also take Future Sight from Slowking-Galar. Talk about how they synergize. With the comment of ground immunity and support going in the first sentences, I don't feel like its needed to keep saying what mantine does. Talk about how pex deals with phy attackers like abc and how mantine does it for spa attackers. When I look at Skarmory and Ferrothorn, they run physical attacks yeah but both pex and mantine threatens it with scald burns already..id prefer another example.
-> Both often carry Haze, which allows a utility move to be used on either Pokemon.
-> Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Primarina, Calm Mind Keldeo, and Bulk Up Urshifu welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes that would otherwise jeopardize their ability to set up.
* Slowking should have its own sentence at the beginning
* Tapu Fini should be mentioned. Primarina does not warrant a mention at all
* Bulk Up Urshifu-R is rare and it should have its own line or slap it in a line with Keldeo.
* Gastrodon should have a line after Swampert
* Mention Wallbreakers like Dracovish and Crawdaunt


[STRATEGY COMMENTS]
Other Options
=============

-> Maximum Special Defence EVs can be used, but Mantine rarely needs them due to its outstanding natural bulk.
-> Toxic can be used over Haze, however this makes Mantine setup fodder. [This only applies to setup Pokemon that are immune to Toxic so make sure to say that and give examples of such Pokemon.]
You mention a lot of stall examples in your teammates and your OO section should reflect this also. Mantine doesn't like Spectrier at all, and once its status'd its over honestly. Mention Water Veil as anti-will-o-wisp.
Checks and Counters
===================

**Physical Attackers Wallbreakers**: Many Physical Attackers can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's poor average defence Defense stat. [Change this to 'Physical Wallbreakers' and change the sentence accordingly and include examples of such wallbreakers.]

**Stallbreakers**: Many stall breakers such as Tapu Fini and Mew prevent Mantine from defogging hazards away and restoring health via Roost, forcing Mantine to rely on its weak recovery moves. [Weak recovery moves? Not sure what you mean here, rephrase.]

**Super Effective Moves**: Mantine is especially vulnerable to Super Effective moves, as Lycanroc-Dusk and Tapu Koko can easily OHKO Mantine with their Electric- and Rock- Type attacks.

Split the 'Super Effective Moves' into 'Electric-types' and 'Rock-types' as two different categories.

**Walls*: As it doesn't run Toxic, Mantine loses against many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex, as they are able to Toxic stall it. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, obstructing Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost.

Made a few changes to Roxiee's AM check, please implement this check and I'll take another look before I stamp it. Also there were a bunch of places where you had capitalized unnecessarily and a bunch of spelling errors so please thoroughly go through the Spelling and Grammar Standards. Tag me when this is implemented.

 

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Mantine (Water)

[OVERVIEW]

-> Mantine's superb Special Defence and HP stat and access to utility moves such as Defog, Haze, and Roost allows Mantine to be a great wall on Water teams.
-> These abilities allow it to become one of the best [Wouldn't say "best" here since the best part only applies to Stall teams, rephrase to decent/good] walls on Balance and Stall teams. [Add that it can also form a decent defensive core on balanced teams with Toxapex, Slowking, Swampert etc.]
-> Mantine's Flying type permits it to provide a key neutrality to Grass as well as an immunity to Ground moves, which its teammates appreciate.
-> It's held back by its dependence on Heavy-Duty Boots [This was mentioned in the previous check, HDB is actually a positive, it shouldn't be mentioned like its a bad thing, just remove that part and keep the Electric-type weakness part only, in this sentence.] to prevent it from taking Stealth Rock Damage, as well as its 4x weakness to Electric moves and its low defence stat, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as and Zeraora. Victini and Nidoking that commonly carry Electric-type coverage.

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Roost
move 4: Haze
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
-> Defog allows Mantine to remove entry hazards for its teammates.
-> Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder for foes, reliable being able to switch-in to and deal with setup sweepers like such as Keldeo, Hatterene, and Volcarona.
-> Scald prevents Mantine from being completely passive and prohibits physical attackers such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in recklessly, as they may risk being burned.
-> Roost gives Mantine longevity, allowing it to consistently wall foes such as Choice Specs Keldeo and use Defog reliably clear entry hazards for the rest of the team throughout the course of the game.

-> Mantine has enough Speed Investment to outpace Adamant Azumarill, allowing Mantine to use Haze before Azumarill can annihilate Mantine's teammates. attacks it.
-> Heavy-Duty Boots prevent Mantine from taking hazard damage, as it which otherwise severely lessens Mantine's longevity. [Move these two points to the first paragraph, they're supposed to be aprt of the first paragraph.]
-> The rest of Mantine's EVs were put into HP and Special Defence, making it as bulky as possible while reducing the damage taken from Stealth Rock should Mantine's item be removed.
-> Mantine's Calm nature further increases its ability to wall adverse Special Attackers such as Hatterene and Choice Specs Hydreigon.
-> Mantine's Attack IVs allow it to take less damage from Foul Play users such as Mandibuzz. [I mentioned this in the previous check but REMOVE these three sentences, 4 lines for EVs is too much.]

-> Toxapex to take on Physical Attackers such as Dragapult and Mimikyu, [This sentence is incomplete, doesn't even sound like a sentence, phrase is properly please.]
-> In return, Mantine can check potent Special Attackers such as Nidoking. [Mantine cannot reliably check Nidoking, Thunderbolt Nidoking is fairly common, please use a different example.]
-> Swampert is able to check Electric-types such as Regieleki and Zeraora for Mantine.
-> Gastrodon is also an option in lieu of Swampert, as it is able to check larger threats to Mantine's team such as Tapu Koko.
-> In return, Mantine is able to switch in to many Grass-Type Pokemon such as Whimsicott. [Whimsicott doesn't carry Grass-type STAB, this sentence isn't needed you can remove it.]
-> Slowking is able to switch into powerful Psychic-Type Pokémon like Latios and Choice Specs Tapu Lele easily, preventing Mantine from being forced to constantly Roost. which can otherwise overpower Mantine.
-> Urshifu-R and Keldeo also appricate [Spelling] Mantine's ability to act as a switch-in [AH] on Psychic- and Fairy-type Pokemon such as Tapu Lele and Hatterene that threaten them.
-> Wallbreakers such as Dracovish and Crawdaunt appriciate Mantine's ability to clear hazards, allowing them to enter the field saftley to defeat a foe. [Add to this sentence that Mantine also appreciates these wallbreakers taking care of walls like Blissey and Mandibuzz that can pressure Mantine.]
-> Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it is immune to Electric-type moves and removes Status from Mantine via Heal Bell.
-> Sap Sipper Azumarill takes pressure off Mantine as a Grass Neutrality, and can offer a switchin to and trap foes such as Choiced Rillaboom and Ferrothorn. [Make sure to mention that both Sap Sipper Azumarill and Lanturn are primarily seen on stall teams, even this was mentioned in the previous check.]
-> Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Tapu Fini and Suicune welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes that would otherwise jeopardize their ability to set up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

-> Toxic can be used over Haze, however this makes Mantine setup fodder. [This only applies to setup Pokemon that are immune to Toxic so make sure to say that and give examples of such Pokemon. This was mentioned in the previous check as well ._. ]

-> Mantine can also use Water Viel [Spelling] as an ability, preventing Spectrier from burning it.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Physical Wallbreakers**: Many Physical Attackers such as can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's average Defense stat.

**Stallbreakers**: Many stall breakers such as Tapu Fini and Mew prevent Mantine from defogging hazards away and restoring health via Roost, forcing Mantine to rely on its recovery moves. [Weak recovery moves? Not sure what you mean here, rephrase.]

**Electric-types**: Mantine is especially vulnerable to Electric-Type moves, such as those used by Tapu Koko and Zeraora and common Electric-type coverage moves from the likes of Victini and Nidoking.

**Rock-types**: Lycanroc-Dusk, Terrakion, and Tyranitar Stakataka in Trick Room can all easily OHKO Mantine with Stone Edge. However they need to be wary of switching into Mantine as they can be burned by Scald.

**Walls*: As it doesn't run Toxic, Mantine loses against many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex, as they are able to Toxic stall it. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, obstructing Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]
- Water analysis by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]]
- Quality checked by: [[maple.473171] [[Maple, 473171], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

Sorry about this but I still can't stamp 1/2 for this, a fair amount of changes from my first check were not implemented, please pay more attention when implementing a check and make sure everything is implemented this time. Edit the title to QC 0/2 and tag me once all these are implemented and I'll take another look, again. As I mentioned before, go through the Spelling and Grammar Standards please, there's a lot of GP errors here and there.

 

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Mantine (Water)

[OVERVIEW]

-> Mantine's superb Special Defence and HP stat and access to utility moves such as Defog, Haze, and Roost allows Mantine to be a great wall on Water teams.
-> These abilities allow it to become a decent walls on balance and stall teams, and can form a potent defensive core with Pokemon such as Swampert, Slowking, and Toxapex.
-> Mantine's Flying type permits it to provide a key neutrality to Grass as well as an immunity to Ground moves, which its teammates appreciate.
-> It's held back by its its 4x weakness to Electric moves and its low defence Defense stat, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as Victini and Nidoking that commonly carry Electric-Type Coverage.

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Roost
move 4: Haze
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Bold
evs: 248 HP / 164 Def / 96 Spe
ivs: 0 Atk

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
-> Defog allows Mantine to remove entry hazards for its teammates.
-> Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder for foes, reliable reliably being able to switch-in to and deal with setup sweepers like Keldeo, Hatterene, and Volcarona.
-> Scald prevents Mantine from being completely passive and prohibits physical attackers such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in recklessly, as they may risk being burned.
-> Roost gives Mantine longevity, allowing it to consistently wall foes such as Choice Specs Keldeo and Volcarona and reliably clear entry hazards for the rest of the team throughout the course of the game.
-> Mantine has enough Speed investment to outpace Adamant Azumarill, allowing Mantine to use Haze before Azumarill attacks it.
-> Heavy-Duty Boots prevent Mantine from taking hazard damage, which otherwise severely lessens threatens Mantine's longevity.

-> Mantine enjoys the presense presence of Toxapex to take on Physical Attackers physical attackers such as Dragapult and Mimikyu.
-> In return, Mantine can check potent Special Attackers special attackers such as Keldeo and Kingdra.
-> Swampert is able to check Electric-types such as Regieleki and Zeraora for Mantine while also being able to setup Stealth Rock.
-> Gastrodon is also an option in lieu of Swampert, as it is able to check larger prominent threats to Mantine's team such as Tapu Koko.
-> Slowking is able to switch into powerful Psychic-Type type Pokémon like Latios and Choice Specs Tapu Lele easily, which can otherwise overpower Mantine.
-> Urshifu-R and Keldeo also appreciate Mantine's ability to act as a switch-in on certain Psychic- and Fairy-type special attackers Pokemon such as Tapu Lele and Hatterene that threaten them.
-> Wallbreakers such as Dracovish and Crawdaunt appriciate appreciate Mantine's ability to clear hazards, allowing them to enter the field saftley safely to defeat walls that otherwise pressure Mantine.
-> Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it is immune to Electric-type moves and removes status from Mantine via Heal Bell.
-> Sap Sipper Azumarill takes pressure off Mantine as a Grass Neutrality, and can offer a switch-in [AH] to and trap foes such as Choiced Rillaboom and Ferrothorn. [Thought about it and this doesn't deserve a mention.]
-> However, it should be noted that both these options only appear Lanturn is primarily seen on stall teams. [Add this sentence to previous Lanturn sentence.]
-> Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Tapu Fini and Suicune welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes that would otherwise jeopardize their ability to set up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

-> Toxic can be used over Haze, however this makes Mantine setup fodder for foes who are either immune to Toxic or use Substitute such as Spectrier.

-> Mantine can also use Water Viel Veil as an ability, preventing Spectrier from burning it.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Physical Wallbreakers**: Many Physical Attackers such as can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's average Defense stat.

**Stallbreakers**: Many stall breakers such as Tapu Fini and Mew prevent Mantine from defogging hazards away and restoring health via Roost, forcing Mantine to rely on its recovery moves.

**Electric-types**: Mantine is especially vulnerable to Electric-Type moves, such as those used by Tapu Koko and Zeraora and common Electric-type coverage moves from the likes of Victini and Nidoking.

**Rock-types**: Terrakion, and Tyranitar can all easily OHKO Mantine with Stone Edge. However they need to be wary of switching into Mantine as they can be burned by Scald. [Super effective attacks are longer needed

**Walls*: As it doesn't run Toxic, Mantine loses against many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex, as they are able to Toxic stall it. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, obstructing Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost.

**Toxic**:

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]
- Water analysis by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]]
- Quality checked by: [[Maple, 473171], [, ], [, ]]
- Grammar checked by: [[, ], [, ]]

Much better, QC 1/2

 

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QC Check Implemented. Ready for QC 2.

 

[Harpp]

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Mantine's superb Special Defence Defense and HP stat and access to utility moves such as Defog, Haze, and Roost allows Mantine to be a great wall on Water teams allowing it to take on Pokemon such as? These abilities allow it to become a decent wall on balance and stall teams (Remove the mention of Stall teams as they are not really common), and can form a potent defensive core with Pokemon such as Swampert, Slowking, and Toxapex. Mantine's Flying type permits it to provide a key neutrality to Grass as well as an immunity to Ground moves, which its teammates appreciate (Give notable examples here of Grass and Ground-type Pokemon against which Mantine is effective) It's held back by its its 4x weakness to Electric moves and its low Defense stat, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as Victini and Nidoking that commonly carry Electric-type Coverage. (This was a lot of Dex info-ish, I want you to delve deep into specifics here). Talk about its passive nature as well, momentum loss and Pokemon that capitalize on this.

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Roost
move 4: Haze
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
Defog allows Mantine to remove entry hazards for its teammates. Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder for foes, reliably being able to switch-in to and deal with setup sweepers like Keldeo, Hatterene, and Volcarona. Scald prevents Mantine from being completely passive and prohibits physical attackers such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in recklessly, as they may risk being burned. Roost gives Mantine longevity, allowing it to consistently wall foes such as Keldeo Galarian Moltres and Volcarona and reliably clear entry hazards for the rest of the team throughout the course of the game. Mantine has enough Speed investment to outpace Adamant Belly Drum Azumarill, allowing Mantine to use Haze before Azumarill attacks it. Heavy-Duty Boots prevent Mantine from taking hazard damage, which otherwise threatens Mantine's longevity.

Mantine enjoys the presence of Toxapex to take on physical attackers such as Dragapult and Mimikyu. In return, Mantine can check potent special attackers such as Keldeo (Keldeo is not really a threat to Water-type teams and this was the third type it was repeated, please use some other more prominent and notable example here) and Kingdra. Swampert is able to check Electric-types such as Regieleki and Zeraora for Mantine while also being able to setup Stealth Rock. Gastrodon is also an option in lieu of Swampert, as it is able to check prominent threats to Mantine's team such as Tapu Koko while also having access to a reliable recovery move in Recover. Slowking is able to switch into powerful Psychic-type Pokemon like Latios and Choice Specs Tapu Lele, which can otherwise overpower Mantine. Urshifu-R and Keldeo also appreciate Mantine's ability to act as a switch-in on certain Psychic- and Fairy-type special attackers such as Tapu Lele and Hatterene that threaten them (Talk what they do in return for it). Wallbreakers such as Dracovish (Dracovish got banned so use something else here)and Crawdaunt appreciate Mantine's ability to clear hazards, allowing them to enter the field safely to defeat walls that otherwise pressure Mantine (Examples of walls here that pressure Mantine). Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it is immune to Electric-type moves and removes status from Mantine via Heal Bell while also taking on Choice Specs Zapdos more reliably and providing slow Volt-Switch support to the team. However, it should be noted that Lanturn is primarily seen on stall teams. Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Tapu Fini and Suicune welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes that would otherwise jeopardize their ability to set up. Add Cloysrer too for setup sweeper.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Toxic can be used over Haze, however this makes Mantine setup fodder for foes who are either immune to Toxic or use Substitute such as Spectrier. Mantine can also use Water Veil as an ability, preventing Spectrier from burning it.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Physical Wallbreakers**: Many Physical Attackers such as examples here can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's average Defense stat.

**Stallbreakers**: Many stall breakers such as Tapu Fini and Mew prevent Mantine from defogging hazards away and restoring health via Roost, forcing Mantine to rely on its recovery moves. wearing it down which makes it easier to beat.

**Walls*: As it doesn't run Toxic, Mantine loses against many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex, as they are able to Toxic stall it. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, obstructing Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost.

**Toxic**: Toxic puts Mantine on a timer and prevents it from easily coming in and defogging by reducing its longevity.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]
- Water analysis by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]]
- Quality checked by: [[Maple, 473171], [Harpp,320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [[ID1, user1], [user2, ID2]]

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Mantine's superb Special Defense and HP stats and access to utility moves such as Defog, Haze, and Roost allows Mantine to be make it a great wall on Water balance teams, taking on foes such as Volcarona, Hydreigon, and Hatterene. These abilities allow it to become a decent wall on balance, and It can form a potent defensive core with Pokemon such as Swampert, Slowking, and Toxapex. Mantine's Flying type typing permits it to provide a key neutrality to Grass as well as an immunity to Ground moves. These attributes allow it to be Ground; this makes it effective against foes such as Swampert and Choice Scarf Excadrill locked into Earthquake, which its teammates appreciate. It's held back by its its 4x weakness to Electric moves, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as Victini and Nidoking, both of which carry Electric coverage. Mantine also has a passive nature Nidoking that carry Electric-type coverage. Mantine's passivity also leads to a tremendous loss of momentum whenever it enters the field. Special wallbreakers such as Choice Specs Tapu Lele and Choice Specs Zapdos take advantage of this, being able to freely switch in (removed hyphen) on Mantine and release powerful attacks that can severely damage Mantine or its teammates.

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Roost
move 4: Haze
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
Defog allows Mantine to remove entry hazards for its teammates. Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder for foes, reliably being able to switch-in to fodder, letting it reliably switch into and deal with setup sweepers like Keldeo, Hatterene, and Volcarona. Scald prevents Mantine from being completely passive and prohibits physical attackers such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in recklessly, as they may risk being burned. Roost gives Mantine longevity, allowing Roost allows it to consistently wall foes such as Galarian Moltres and Volcarona and reliably clear entry hazards for the rest of the team throughout the course of throughout the game. Mantine has enough Speed investment to outpace Adamant Azumarill, allowing Mantine to it to utilize its Aqua Jet immunity and (if this is worth mentioning? if not, just do "..., allowing it to use Haze before Azumarill attacks it.) use Haze before Azumarill attacks it. Heavy-Duty Boots prevent Mantine from taking hazard damage, which otherwise threatens Mantine's longevity.

Mantine enjoys the presence of Toxapex to take on physical attackers such as Dragapult and Mimikyu. In return, Mantine can check potent special attackers such as Choice Scarf Tapu Lele. Swampert is able to check Electric-types such as Regieleki and Zeraora for Mantine while also being able to setup set up Stealth Rock. Gastrodon is also an option in lieu of Swampert, as it is able to check prominent threats to Mantine's team such as Tapu Koko while also having access to a reliable recovery move in Recover. reliable recovery. Slowking is able to switch into powerful Psychic-type Pokemon like Latios and Choice Specs Tapu Lele, which can otherwise overpower Mantine. Urshifu-R and Keldeo also appreciate Mantine's ability to act as a switch-in Mantine switching in on certain Psychic- and Fairy-type special attackers such as Tapu Lele and Hatterene that threaten them. In return, they can defeat foes such as Bisharp and Terrakion, respectively, (AC) for Mantine. Wallbreakers such as Crawdaunt and Tapu Fini appreciate Mantine's ability to clear hazards, allowing Defog, which allows them to enter the field safely to defeat walls that otherwise pressure Mantine such as Toxapex, Mandibuzz, and Chansey. Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it is immune to Electric-type moves and removes status from Mantine via provides an Electric immunity and Heal Bell while also taking on Choice Specs Zapdos more reliably and providing slow Volt Switch (removed hyphen) support to the team. However, it should be noted that Lanturn is primarily seen on stall teams. Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Tapu Fini, Cloyster, and Suicune welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes, (AC) that would otherwise which jeopardize their ability to set up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Toxic can be used over Haze, however Haze; however, this makes Mantine setup fodder for foes who that are either immune to Toxic or use Substitute, (AC) such as Spectrier. Mantine can also use Water Veil as an ability, preventing Spectrier from burning it.

Checks and Counters
===================
**Physical Wallbreakers**: Many physical attackers such as Choice Band Rillaboom and Bisharp can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's average Defense stat.

**Stallbreakers**: Many stallbreakers (was "stall breakers") such as Tapu Fini and Mew prevent Mantine from defogging hazards away Defogging and restoring health via Roost, forcing Mantine to rely on its recovery moves. (it can't use roost; did you mean something else? eg it has to use recovery moves more often in anticipation, or it needs wish from teammates? or is it relying on a different type of move? or should this just be removed?)

**Walls*: As it doesn't run Toxic, Mantine loses against many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex, as they are able to Toxic stall it. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, obstructing **Toxic**: Many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex can Toxic stall Mantine, as it normally doesn't run Toxic itself. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, obstructing letting it obstruct Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost. Toxic also generally puts Mantine on a timer and prevents it from easily coming in and Defogging.

**Toxic**: Toxic puts Mantine on a timer and prevents it from easily coming in and defogging by reducing its longevity.

[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]
- Water analysis by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]]
- Quality checked by: [[Maple, 473171], [Harpp,320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429], [user2, ID2]]

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Mantine's superb Special Defense and HP stats and access to utility moves such as Defog, Haze, and Roost make it a great wall on Water balance teams, taking on foes such as Volcarona, Hydreigon, and Hatterene. It can form a potent defensive core with Pokemon such as Swampert, Slowking, and Toxapex. Mantine's Flying typing permits it to provides a key neutrality to Grass as well as an immunity to Ground; this makes it effective against foes such as Swampert and Choice Scarf Excadrill locked into Earthquake, which its teammates appreciate. It's held back by its its 4x weakness to Electric, making it susceptible to Pokemon such as Victini and Nidoking that carry Electric-type coverage. Mantine's passivity also leads to a tremendous loss of momentum whenever it enters the field. Special wallbreakers such as Choice Specs Tapu Lele and Choice Specs Zapdos take advantage of this, being able to freely switch in on Mantine and release powerful attacks that can severely damage Mantine or its teammates.

[SET]
name: Support (Water)
move 1: Scald
move 2: Defog
move 3: Haze
move 4: Roost
item: Heavy-Duty Boots
ability: Water Absorb
nature: Bold
evs: 252 HP / 160 Def / 96 Spe

[SET COMMENTS]
Set Description
========
Scald prevents Mantine from being completely passive and prohibits physical attackers such as Dragonite and Dragapult from switching in recklessly, as they risk being burned. Haze prevents Mantine from becoming setup fodder, letting it reliably switch into and deal with setup sweepers like Keldeo, Hatterene, and Volcarona. Roost allows it to consistently wall foes such as Galarian Moltres and Volcarona and reliably clear entry hazards throughout the game. Mantine has enough Speed investment to outpace Adamant Azumarill, allowing it to use Haze before Azumarill attacks it.

Mantine enjoys the presence of Toxapex to take on physical attackers such as Dragapult and Mimikyu. In return, Mantine can check potent special attackers such as Choice Scarf Tapu Lele. Swampert is able to check Electric-types such as Regieleki and Zeraora while also being able to set up Stealth Rock. Gastrodon is also an option in lieu of Swampert, as it is able to check prominent threats to Mantine's team such as Tapu Koko while also having reliable recovery. Slowking is able to switch into powerful Psychic-types Pokemon like Latios and Choice Specs Tapu Lele, which can otherwise overpower Mantine. Urshifu-R and Keldeo also appreciate Mantine switching in on certain Psychic- and Fairy-type special attackers such as Tapu Lele and Hatterene that threaten them. In return, they can defeat foes such as Bisharp and Terrakion, respectively, for Mantine. Wallbreakers such as Crawdaunt and Tapu Fini appreciate Mantine's Defog, which allows them to enter the field safely to defeat walls that pressure Mantine such as Toxapex, Mandibuzz, and Chansey. Mantine also enjoys having Lanturn on its team, as it provides an Electric immunity and Heal Bell support while also taking on Choice Specs Zapdos more reliably and providing slow Volt Switch support to the team. However, it should be noted that Lanturn is primarily seen on stall teams. Setup sweepers such as Calm Mind Tapu Fini, Cloyster, and Suicune welcome Mantine's ability to remove Toxic Spikes, which jeopardize their ability to set up.

[STRATEGY COMMENTS]

Other Options
=============

Toxic can be used over Haze; however, this makes Mantine setup fodder for foes that are either immune to Toxic or use Substitute, such as Spectrier. Mantine can also use Water Veil as an ability, preventing Spectrier from burning it.

Checks and Counters
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**Physical Wallbreakers**: Many physical attackers such as Choice Band Rillaboom and Bisharp can easily threaten Mantine with either an OHKO or severe damage due to Mantine's average Defense stat.

**Stallbreakers**: Many stallbreakers such as Tapu Fini and Mew prevent Mantine from Defogging using Defog and restoring health via Roost.

**Toxic**: Many common walls such as Mandibuzz and Toxapex can Toxic stall Mantine, as it normally doesn't run Toxic itself. Mandibuzz also has access to Taunt, letting it obstruct Mantine from healing off Toxic damage with Roost. Toxic also generally puts Mantine on a timer and prevents it from easily coming in and Defogging using Defog.

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- Written by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]
- Water analysis by: [[Aqua∞Ring, 531302]]]
- Quality checked by: [[Maple, 473171], [Harpp,320110]]
- Grammar checked by: [[Finland, 517429], [user2, ID2]]

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