Mat Block

[Rainman Legends]

Please refer to the Discussion thread for information. Slate is as follows, using instant-runoff voting for the first question and single bold voting for second

Mat Block behavior

Make Mat Block behave like Fake Out in-game (Successful use is first attempt per send out) with no additional EN cost.
Make Mat Block behave like Fake Out in-game (Successful use is first attempt per send out) with additional EN cost.
Keep Mat Block as is but with additional EN cost.
Keep Mat Block as is.

Mat Block: the P/E question

Class Mat Block underneath the Protective/Evasive Sub Class
Keep as is

If Additional EN cost wins

Zarator's Suggestion: (6+damage/4)
Solid Gold's Suggestion: (damage/3)
Back to Drawing Board
Keep as is

NOTE: Protean+Rare Candy Slates will be voted on in a different thread as I feel like they are a separate enough issue to have their own thread

Voting: Behavior+P/E Slates first. If Additional EN cost for behavior wins, vote on that next

Tagging Time: Dogfish44 / Its_A_Random / Avnomke / ZhengTann

 

[Rainman Legends]

Mat Block Behavior
Keep Mat Block as is but with additional EN cost.
Make Mat Block behave like Fake Out in-game (Successful use is first attempt per send out) with additional EN cost.

Mat Block: P/E Question
Keep as is
Class Mat Block underneath the Protective/Evasive Sub Class

 

[Its_A_Random]

Q1
Make Mat Block behave like Fake Out in-game (Successful use is first attempt per send out) with additional EN cost.
Make Mat Block behave like Fake Out in-game (Successful use is first attempt per send out) with no additional EN cost.
Keep Mat Block as is but with additional EN cost.

Q2
Class Mat Block underneath the Protective/Evasive Sub Class

I just want to hammer the crap out of Mat Block but that is just me. I prefer the in-game effect for Mat Block since it is balanced and means the opponent does not have to sub for it after its first use. And if they have not, then putting it in the Protective Move sub class will save that since most of the time you want to abuse an opponent's protect to chill when you are low on Energy or to use a high powered attack to punish the opponent by draining their energy, which is why I am in favour of an additional EN cost. Also brings it completely in line with moves in the Protective substitution class. These solutions will in my opinion completely put Greninja in line and make it balanced because what pushes Skill Frog over the line in my opinion is a move as poorly designed as Mat Block.

 

[Dogfish44]

Q1
Make Mat Block behave like Fake Out in-game (Successful use is first attempt per send out) with additional EN cost.
Keep Mat Block as is but with additional EN cost.

Q2
Class Mat Block underneath the Protective/Evasive Sub Class

 

[ZhengTann]

Make Mat Block behave like Fake Out in-game (Successful use is first attempt per send out) with additional EN cost.

Class Mat Block underneath the Protective/Evasive Sub Class

Majority on both. What changed my mind is the fact that in Doubles and above, you don't get additional subs. And those formats are where Mat Block outshines any comparable moves. Thank you for your time, mods may close this thread at discretion before editing Handbook while I go edit NDA. Oops apparently I forgot the formula vote sorry.

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What should be the EN formula for Mat Block?
Zarator's Suggestion: (6+damage/4)
Solid Gold's Suggestion: (damage/3)
Back to Drawing Board
Keep as is

 

[Rainman Legends]

Zarator's Suggestion: (6+damage/4)
Solid Gold's Suggestion: (damage/3)
Back to Drawing Board
Keep as is

 

[Its_A_Random]

Zarator's Suggestion: (6+damage/4)
Back to Drawing Board

The only sane EC option presented.

 

[Dogfish44]

Zarator's Suggestion: (6+damage/4)

Majority.

 

[Its_A_Random]

Fine I will implement it.