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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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One of the reasons I scum read him is that I noticed knights threw in a town read on King at the time his wagon was strongest, it appeared that he could be attempted to get town cred when King flipped as per asek here
 
Walrein said:
it's rare for me to have more than one or two scumreads this early in the game; i'm much better at early townreads than early scumreads

do you think i'm bussing haruno, then? are these scumreads independent of each other? help me understand your thought process here
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Fair, but having 0 scumreads doesn't fit right with me and I don't think "meta" is a good excuse.

I don't really think about mafia interactions day 1 (well I guess I never get to late game so I've never had to think about it). But I'm not thinking about things from the viewpoint of "Haruno + Walrein" scum team. I prefer to look at "here's these 3 people that I think can be scum and are most likely to be scum." That's how I've always operated. Like I don't see at all how it's helpful to be like "hmm these two users are BUDDYING day 1 lynch both asap." I think you are the most likely to flip maf right now followed by Haruno.

@above haruno: not really but ok.

I don't see why people get nervous about wagons, scum are more likely to just not vote and let everyone else dig someone's grave for them.
 
haruno refusing to play the game reads as part of his scum meta to me

source: basic game, in which he decided not posting was his optimal scum play
 
Walrein said:
haruno refusing to play the game reads as part of his scum meta to me

source: basic game, in which he decided not posting was his optimal scum play
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I did that in gunbearer as town rofl. In basic it was a multitude of shit mostly going from having the dumbest scumbuddy ever lol since that person was willing to fakeclaim cop to bus me, on a cycle we were killing the actual cop so he would've led a lynch on me + got himself immediately implicated as mafia afterwards and he was too stupid to realize how badly he fucked up which is an entirely different situation from now so er what.
 
I think I lucked on reading King. He had just posted his scumreads, which gave me an opportunity to start discussion and get a read without having to sort through the fights.

I agree with Ullar that I'm generally full of myself, but I'm not full of shit.
 
iso diving knights im actually not as confident in my scumread, he does have a lot of things that i dislike but his progression actually looks rather towny. i find it interesting that he does actually have a slight scum read on paper though which feels more likely to be legit rather than a bus and aligns with my current growing FoS on paper

Unvote Vote Ullar

This wagon grew far more naturally than haruno's did, I think tomorrow we take a closer look at paperblade and hitmonleet
 
Votecount
Haruno (4): Walrein, Jalmont, KnightsofCydonia, King_
Ullar (4): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek, Texas Cloverleaf
Asek (2): Shubaka, Haruno
King_ (2): Josh, Paperblade
Hawkie (1): Ullar
Josh (1): Hitmonleet
KnightsofCydonia (1): Moodycloud

Not Voting (2): Da Letter El, Former Hope
 
i've liked Knights since his first post. i think he was jaded coming into the game because a comment or two was made but w/e honestly. his posts since then have been really good imo, the lynch onto Haruno from him scared me but honestly i can see where people are coming from SR'ing Haruno he just feels way too reactive rather than proactive to me
 
Haruno said:
I did that in gunbearer as town rofl. In basic it was a multitude of shit mostly going from having the dumbest scumbuddy ever lol since that person was willing to fakeclaim cop to bus me, on a cycle we were killing the actual cop so he would've led a lynch on me + got himself immediately implicated as mafia afterwards and he was too stupid to realize how badly he fucked up which is an entirely different situation from now so er what.
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your anger here feels much more forced than in games such as popcorn

and popcorn was a mechanically weird game and i feel like it should hardly count from a meta perspective
 
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