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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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i put a last minute hammery vote onto asek but i dont think i pushed him?

i looked into asek after you and others brought him up and did find stuff to dislike in his posts that gave me the confidence to vote him but i was super boozled by id and rssp1 in their suicide pact
 
MoodyCloud said:
Assuming King is mafia means assuming scum played a terrible d1
I give them more credit than this

Vote Knights Jalmont setting someone up for you to push them for the chainsaw is possible and would make more sense to me than him being straight up bad and obvious. Either way one of you or King has to go today imo
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Omg townread
 
KnightsofCydonia said:
Running AubLetter. Aubisio by himself is null (wish there had been some whys with his reads), but DLE gives a slight Townie vibe just by rolling up his sleeves as deadline was approaching. I'd love to hear from him about the discrepancy between 611 and 627.
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KnightsofCydonia said:
Running King... When he's not locking horns with other players, he shows Townie details. My thoughts on him keep flipping between wondering if I'm reading him with rose colored glasses and wondering if somebody's poking him just for his poor reactions. I think I might drop him down to null for now.
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KnightsofCydonia said:
Don't tunnel yourself into only reading King's posts. Even if it's just interactions, try and look around every now and again. You can't hinge it all on hammering an iso.
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Baseless reads + making a futile effort to bring josh off king for towncred maybe
 
IronicDouble (‽) said:
Was reading the lynches, and so far there are four people who have been voted a lynch (King_, Shubaka17, Knights, and Hitmonleet) so I decided to read back to get a read on everyone.

Starting with King_, I think I pointed out his repeated filler and agressiveness. Much of his posts so far from what I can see are targeted towards Josh and Shubaka17, and this could have been planned by King as an easy target so he himself did not get lynched and could live another day. On the other hand, a townie would be inclined to try to live as well, but the fact most of his posts are targeted towards Shubaka17 seems a little bit sketchy. Like I said in my earlier read post, Leaning Scum.

Secondly, my read on shubaka17. So far, he has not posted like at all in day 2, which is a bit disappointing as I looked through his activity log and saw him post in many other mafia games. This could be the behavior of a defeated Mafia, or it could just be the behavior of a bored townie (like me :P). Anyway, the fact he hasn't posted gives me No Read on him.

Thirdly, my read on KnightsofCydonia. From what I saw, his posts have been very informative from what I see, and he says things like "I can't clear myself, so you'd have to flip me." which frankly makes him more townie to me because I feel like he is looking at the view of any player playing in this game aside from him. And an additional note, he leans town to me more than many others. Why is being read/lynched? I'd like an explanation from anyone who has KOC in their scumpool. Leaning Town.

And lastly, my read on Hitmonleet. Honestly, you should open your profile up to everyone, as I can't even go back to see all your original posts which makes my read on you quite unconfident. In the latest read post of yours, you talk about Josh and how he has a bunch of one-liners and sketchy interactions. You say "Personally, I still think you're scummy.", yet you didn't lynch Josh. Why is that? Also, I'm looking forward to "a post for Hawkie's thoughts", as it will be interesting to see your reaction since Hawkie has lynched you. With just one post, I lean Hitmonleet a little towards scum, but I'd like to have a better read, so I'm now kindy asking for someone who has been watching this game who can tell me what other scummy/townie things Hitmonleet has done. Leaning Scum-ish but unconfident of current. [Also, in case you didn't see my first sentence, please open up your profile so I can see your other posts thanks]

Of course, they aren't the only people I'm thinking about lynching, but its a start as I subbed in the middle of the day. Thinking about lynching King_ rn to put him at L-3 (I think?) but I'd like to see more posts from everyone.

Tagging Host to tell me when deadline is (forgot who Host is lel).
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This doesn't sound like he subbed in and immediately bussed and im kicking myself for believing everyone who said that's what it was instead of checking. "Leaning scumish but unconfident of current."
Leet is already highly suspected at this point. Josh + me + texas have pushed him especially my 5 posts worth of pushing a few posts before this reads post. Also TR's knights badly
 
Hitmonleet said:
AHHHHH EVERYONE IS TAGGING ME WHY



I'll be honest, I was intending to actually pull of a real ISO, but I a) lacked the time, and b) people kept pinging me and harassing me to post more, so I had to just post that before I'd get subbed for inactivity.

My final read was more of my thought on him after I had read the rest of his posts. If you want, I can go and literally do the rest of the ISO right now, if you people will stop threatening to lynch me over trying to do what I said I was doing.

Also, I hate to look like an idiot, but what's SR?



I suppose I should clarify. By "providing reasoning", I mean "Providing logical, intelligent statements that have evidence to back them up". If that isn't your definition of "providing reasoning", then that's what I meant.

YOU GUYS NOT GIVING ME TIME = I DON'T HAVE TIME TO ACTUALLY ESPOUSE UPON MY READS = SHODDY LOGIC.

Also IME = In My Experience. Fite me m8.

Alright, gonna talk about Hawkie soon, but first Thetwinmasters votecount?
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Look. Leet is clearly feeling pressured AS FUCK here. He makes a bad post and i can imagine the scumchat knows he's going to end up lynched. AT THIS POINT THE ONLY READ ID HAS GAVE ON HIM IS THE ONE I LINKED. IT IS TOTALLY POSSIBLE THEY DECIDED TO HAVE THE SUB BUS FOR TOWNCRED

IronicDouble (‽) said:
Why, you come back and your first post is a statement targeted towards everyone who's just trying to play the game and lynch the scum. This post honestly seems like a bunch of filler, with you saying "stop harassing me" and explaining what IME and other things mean. Then to top it off you say your going to talk about Hawkie...you said that literally the other day. It seems your trying to postpone us from lynching you by putting off answering someone who actually SRs you like Hawkie.

I'm going to wait for Hitmonleet to speak about Hawkie before I make my final lynch tommorow. Requesting for Hitmonleet to actually answer Hawkie without the single use of CAPS lock. Thank you.

RE: I made the majority of this post one hour ago but had to go do an errand. I'll read some more comments after I do one last errand.
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and here is where the magic happens
 
Look this may not make sense to you all and it doesn't lock her in as town or anything

but regardless of alignment, Yeti's EoD was actually townie and also removed ID + Yeti potential this game.

She could leave her vote on rssp1 and just leave it as is but tried to swap when I asked her to.

I want to hear why Yeti instinctively chose to vote rssp1 between the two.
 
The only scummy part of Yeti's EoD was calling to lynch fort then leaving when I voted on it.

This kind of pushes harder on a narrative of Fort/Yeti

EoDs are where I have the most fun in the game, it creates a new element of chaos that you can pressure people in with things like cfds and wagon building
 
KnightsofCydonia said:
I'm seeing a trend of multi-day scumreads on Hitmon and I can see why the trend is there. I don't like the pivot from "this confuses me" to "here's some setup talk that shows you're scummy" or how incomplete the iso on Josh seems to be, almost to the point of cherry picking. He says after the fact that he was pressed for time, but it reads more like he rushed through it just so he could move on to Asek.

How the hell does someone half ass a tunnel?
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KnightsofCydonia said:
Once I get some sort of confirmation from players that the double chainsaw tell isn't going to spend the rest of the game being forgotten, I'm moving my vote to Hitmon.
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Hitmonleet said:
I honestly don't consider that initial scumread very important, because Mafia can bus pretty easily, especially without fear of getting copped in this scenario, so as long as one of them is considered definite town, they win (Especially since Vig is dead). Thus, I'm staying suspicious of it.
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