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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins
- Thread starter Thetwinmasters
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2 deaths
The good news is we don't lose three before D7
Vote Empoof
I'll be checking in from my phone
idk you guys should pick apart that post I quoted. He leaves out a lot of people and throws shade on two flipped scum, feels likely that moody is just town from only that post. Arguments about him "saving jalmont for later" as defense is welcome, but that's exactly how I play with jalmont in games so I don't see it as that bad. He even has a meta read about it so it's not just a throw away comment.
I don't know how ID plays but he really pushes for a hitmonleet lynch the day that it was hitmonleet vs king and if Former Hope wasn't in the game + defeatism I'd have him as very likely town. Former Hope might have been in the wrong place at the wrong time and accidently "defended" scum d1.
I really wish I subbed in a real life day before I did because I think I'd have King_ as town and lynch hitmonleet instead and solve with him
I'll be checking in from my phone
idk you guys should pick apart that post I quoted. He leaves out a lot of people and throws shade on two flipped scum, feels likely that moody is just town from only that post. Arguments about him "saving jalmont for later" as defense is welcome, but that's exactly how I play with jalmont in games so I don't see it as that bad. He even has a meta read about it so it's not just a throw away comment.
I don't know how ID plays but he really pushes for a hitmonleet lynch the day that it was hitmonleet vs king and if Former Hope wasn't in the game + defeatism I'd have him as very likely town. Former Hope might have been in the wrong place at the wrong time and accidently "defended" scum d1.
I really wish I subbed in a real life day before I did because I think I'd have King_ as town and lynch hitmonleet instead and solve with him
Votecount
Martin (2): Fort Colorcastle, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Fort Colorcastle (1): Moodycloud
Moodycloud (1): Hawkie
Empoof (1): Empoof
Not voting (3): Lightwolf, KnightsofCydonia, Martin
Deadline is in 6 hours.
Martin (2): Fort Colorcastle, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Fort Colorcastle (1): Moodycloud
Moodycloud (1): Hawkie
Empoof (1): Empoof
Not voting (3): Lightwolf, KnightsofCydonia, Martin
Deadline is in 6 hours.
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I'm BPV, we're in setup 7 with JK alive and saving basically every other night. 2 scum alive. People were looking primarily at ID vs Knights today
Playerlist:
1. Hawkie
3. Blazade->Lightwolf
5. KnightsofCydonia
9. Former Hope->Ironic Double->Martin
10. MoodyCloud
13. Texas Cloverleaf
14. Flyhn->Ullar->Yeti
15. Aubisio->Da Letter El->Fort Colorcastle
17. shubaka17->Empoof
Martin Our Vig died on the same night he took out the Mafia RB. One of the goons sui'd after being consistently scumread. Two mislynches since then. Jailkeeper is MVP. I and your predecessor have been very lacking in effort up to now. So has Fort, but that little shit decided to cover it up in wine along the way. Texas has been gunning for your slot for two day phases now. And we're going around in circles on scumhunting, so I've proposed a gameplan about everyone doing an iso before LyLo in order to get things going.
Votecount
Martin (2): Fort Colorcastle, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Fort Colorcastle (1): Moodycloud
Moodycloud (1): Hawkie
Empoof (1): Empoof
Not voting (3): Lightwolf, KnightsofCydonia, Martin
This is the correct vote count
Martin (2): Fort Colorcastle, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Fort Colorcastle (1): Moodycloud
Moodycloud (1): Hawkie
Empoof (1): Empoof
Not voting (3): Lightwolf, KnightsofCydonia, Martin
This is the correct vote count
Not anymore
Invite Vote MoodyCloud
Invite Vote MoodyCloud
Votecount
Moodycloud (2): Hawkie, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Fort Colorcastle (1): Moodycloud
Martin (1): Fort Colorcastle
Empoof (1): Empoof
Not voting (3): Lightwolf, KnightsofCydonia, Martin
Moodycloud (2): Hawkie, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Fort Colorcastle (1): Moodycloud
Martin (1): Fort Colorcastle
Empoof (1): Empoof
Not voting (3): Lightwolf, KnightsofCydonia, Martin
"Okay I've caught up
Hitmonleet's posts felt confused and not exactly useful, idk if it's genuine or fabricated but he's on my radar
Knights I didn't like the tone of so far, felt like he was overly justifying himself and going circles with the "cop claim" stuff
Jalmont is a lot more aggressive than what I remember from him, then again would scum!Jalmont give up on the cover of his usually passive town meta to go balls deep like that ? Will be under scrutiny but wouldn't lynch early
Texas I have no idea what's the deal with this signalling mess but it drew attention to him which scumTexas might not want, I'd never lynch this early either
Blazade's reads post felt weird since I recall him being more passive and waiting to get his shit together before taking action, whereas his post seemed to go after people for meta reasons mostly (me because he thinks he wouldnt catch my scumgame? and a push on Jalmont for meta? overall the post felt unusually reckless from him) -> now on the radar, wouldnt go as far as a scumread because it's more of a gut feeling from meta+tone
FH's first posts were super shady but they were too in popcorn and he was town so I'm afraid to push this again"
this is literally glorified null reads
Hitmonleet's posts felt confused and not exactly useful, idk if it's genuine or fabricated but he's on my radar
Knights I didn't like the tone of so far, felt like he was overly justifying himself and going circles with the "cop claim" stuff
Jalmont is a lot more aggressive than what I remember from him, then again would scum!Jalmont give up on the cover of his usually passive town meta to go balls deep like that ? Will be under scrutiny but wouldn't lynch early
Texas I have no idea what's the deal with this signalling mess but it drew attention to him which scumTexas might not want, I'd never lynch this early either
Blazade's reads post felt weird since I recall him being more passive and waiting to get his shit together before taking action, whereas his post seemed to go after people for meta reasons mostly (me because he thinks he wouldnt catch my scumgame? and a push on Jalmont for meta? overall the post felt unusually reckless from him) -> now on the radar, wouldnt go as far as a scumread because it's more of a gut feeling from meta+tone
FH's first posts were super shady but they were too in popcorn and he was town so I'm afraid to push this again"
this is literally glorified null reads
I'm lost on what to do with you Knights. You keep taking every suspicion I lay out you personally, when that is the last thing I'm trying to do. No I do not think sending people out to spend the last day of a day to ISO people rather than think about who we are lynching today is a good plan. Even the extended version where you are asking everyone to do an ISO on one specific person, I do not see the point, you are essentially forcing us to pick one suspect, where the late comers get to have the fantastic fun of choosing between Empoof and whoever else is being mostly townread. And then everything on every single person is colored purely by the views of those who did the ISO and what they thought was important and nothing on any posts they decide to leave out for whatever reason. A villager, especially near endgame, should from their own motivation go back, reread those alive, reevaluate their thoughts, look for the pieces to complete the puzzle, rather than being forced to complete a singular task in judging a singular person.
Frankly to me at least this feels like a desperate last ditch effort to redirect from your lynch, because you are gonna do an ISO on me by tomorrow, so we might as well keep you alive for it.
Also once someone got me to get off their back, by claiming they were drunk when they posted and dissolved any attempt to push them that day. So sorry but I'm not gonna stop suspecting you unless I see the consistent behavior I expect to see from someone town(naturally not gonna list what that is).
Also, DAMMIT MARTIN. I hate this, ID gets off another day now because of Martin subbing in for sure now. Anyone who was willing to lynch ID should please realise nothing actually changed, except that Martin subbed into the worst position ever. Let's please separate thoughts of "Martin deserves a chance" from "therefore ID gets away scot-free". It's still my preferred lynch, and since Moody wanted to know why: As my big post, now available quoted on page 159, said Former Hope spent the early game being caught up on the most obvious details, whether it was hawkie calling a vig shot or Texas asking for towncred, while not doing much. On the other hand with ID, there was always this manufactured taste to his posts, pushing in "townslips" since his first post, and his hard push on Hitmon being ungenuine, with no reasons stated except that there are a lot and he looks really suspect, and citing a never bought up before or after case where EoD2 Hitmon liked posts then unliked them yet only ID noticed and never provided an explanation. When prodded to write his last rites, he merely posts day 1 info, which is odd considering his claim of posting what he got so far, yet all of it neatly cuts off at EoD1 for everyone? Frankly I'd have more if people didn't wuss out day 1 and maybe pressured Former Hope, but nope everyone was metaing it, he always feels easily lynchable, Okay, but that doesn't mean he can't be scum.
Speaking of Moody, you have still not acknowledged that you misunderstood my request, have you ON day 4, before I made my big post, expressed any suspicions towards me or Blazade? What I'm getting at is, did you wait until you saw my stance on the game or not. You have demonstrated already, that yes you had misgivings about the Blazade slot BEFORE I subbed in, ergo there was no reason to drop these, especially when I was not active day 4 till the end of it, busy reading this game.
Either way I'm unsure who to vote, I want the confirmation that I need to solidify my Moody suspicion, at the same time I'd like to see where Knights is gonna go simply because as much as it does not excuse what I view as suspicious his outrage rubs me a bit the right way. And obviously Martin but I'm not getting my hopes up and actually want to vote a viable option unless people aren't sub allergic, but in general they tend to be.
Frankly to me at least this feels like a desperate last ditch effort to redirect from your lynch, because you are gonna do an ISO on me by tomorrow, so we might as well keep you alive for it.
Also once someone got me to get off their back, by claiming they were drunk when they posted and dissolved any attempt to push them that day. So sorry but I'm not gonna stop suspecting you unless I see the consistent behavior I expect to see from someone town(naturally not gonna list what that is).
Also, DAMMIT MARTIN. I hate this, ID gets off another day now because of Martin subbing in for sure now. Anyone who was willing to lynch ID should please realise nothing actually changed, except that Martin subbed into the worst position ever. Let's please separate thoughts of "Martin deserves a chance" from "therefore ID gets away scot-free". It's still my preferred lynch, and since Moody wanted to know why: As my big post, now available quoted on page 159, said Former Hope spent the early game being caught up on the most obvious details, whether it was hawkie calling a vig shot or Texas asking for towncred, while not doing much. On the other hand with ID, there was always this manufactured taste to his posts, pushing in "townslips" since his first post, and his hard push on Hitmon being ungenuine, with no reasons stated except that there are a lot and he looks really suspect, and citing a never bought up before or after case where EoD2 Hitmon liked posts then unliked them yet only ID noticed and never provided an explanation. When prodded to write his last rites, he merely posts day 1 info, which is odd considering his claim of posting what he got so far, yet all of it neatly cuts off at EoD1 for everyone? Frankly I'd have more if people didn't wuss out day 1 and maybe pressured Former Hope, but nope everyone was metaing it, he always feels easily lynchable, Okay, but that doesn't mean he can't be scum.
Speaking of Moody, you have still not acknowledged that you misunderstood my request, have you ON day 4, before I made my big post, expressed any suspicions towards me or Blazade? What I'm getting at is, did you wait until you saw my stance on the game or not. You have demonstrated already, that yes you had misgivings about the Blazade slot BEFORE I subbed in, ergo there was no reason to drop these, especially when I was not active day 4 till the end of it, busy reading this game.
Either way I'm unsure who to vote, I want the confirmation that I need to solidify my Moody suspicion, at the same time I'd like to see where Knights is gonna go simply because as much as it does not excuse what I view as suspicious his outrage rubs me a bit the right way. And obviously Martin but I'm not getting my hopes up and actually want to vote a viable option unless people aren't sub allergic, but in general they tend to be.
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