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NOC Matrix 12 NOC - Game Over, Mafia Wins

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Votecount
Moodycloud (2): Hawkie, Lightwolf L-3
Martin (2): Fort Colorcastle, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Fort Colorcastle (1): Moodycloud
Empoof (1): Empoof

Not voting (2): KnightsofCydonia, Martin
 
Yeti said:
texas had josh pocketed hard off w/e smoke signal he was sending but idk if thats enough for us to rely on considering how wrong josh has been about other people.

idk what josh's reads were on everyone but his confscum of me/king/leet only had 1 actual scum in it so...........

i wonder if hes getting too much credit now esp for how little elaboration he will put into his reads

hawkie and moody clearly go back and read the thread and knights and lightwolf are doing stuff too that shows some effort but texas often feels like his read isnt based on going back through someone's posts if you know what i mean?

like he doesnt go back through the thread bc as scum his 'reads' are already set in his mind and dont need the thread to be reevaluated or if he wants to change them publicly

:thinking:
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I've stated outright what caused Josh to tr me earlier

I was softing that I'd seen something in former hope's posts that made me think he was the jk and josh was the only one who picked up on
 
What do people think about Fort's "guys I think we're in setup 7" and vote Jalmont posts ?
Drawing attention like that isn't something scumFort wants but as town it's still making me raise an eyebrow

Votecount day 1
Haruno (7): Walrein, Jalmont, KnightsofCydonia, King_, Da Letter El, Ullar, Texas Cloverleaf
Ullar (5): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek, Moodycloud, Haruno
Asek (1): Shubaka
King_ (1): Paperblade
Hitmonleet (1): Josh
Josh (1): Hitmonleet

Not Voting (1): Former Hope

I'd like opinions on the likelihood of scum!Ullar+one of the Haruno wagoners saving their teammate against the likelihood of TvTvT where scum would want to spread out


EOD2 Votecount
King_ (6): Moodycloud, Fort Colorcastle, Josh, Asek, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof
Hitmonleet (5): Ironic Double, KnightsofCydonia, Hawkie, Blazade, King_
Texas Cloverleaf (2) Yeti, Pancake

Not Voting (1): Hitmonleet

Fort and Texas being the slots who would have been voting counterwagons to scum both days if Yeti=scum
Hawkie and Blazade voting Hitmonleet if Yeti=town and you think there's scum on the Ullar d1 wagon


Votecount day 3
Hitmonleet (7): Pancake, Ironic Double, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf, Empoof, Moodycloud, Hitmonleet
Ironic Double (1): Yeti

Not Voting (5): Hawkie, Blazade, Asek, KnightsofCydonia, Fort Colorcastle

Loads of people not voting, probably the most confusing votecount to me


Final Votecount day 4
Pancake (6): Moodycloud, Empoof, Hawkie, Josh, Texas Cloverleaf, Asek
KnightsofCydonia (2): Yeti, Pancake
Ironic Double (2): Fort Colorcastle, Lightwolf
Asek (1): KnightsofCydonia

Not Voting (1): Ironic Double

If you have an analysis of this one I'll gladly hear it because I don't fucking know
I still dislike the Id vote, I was going to settle for it because Id had been passive but my lynch pool today would be Fort/Yeti/Texas aiming to figure out the d1 Ullar counterwagon deal

Knights voted Hitmonleet in #966, at the time there were 1 vote on Hitmonleet and 4 on King. Josh had shown signs of coming back to Hitmonleet and made a case on him in #963

Fort voted King in #1050 :
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Lynching Haruno in an NOC is almost a given, especially if you're just lynching off of his day 1 shenanigans (why do we even bother at this point). If that's the only reason King_ is scummy than that's a terrible reason.

However I do think he's been feeling rather nontown during the time I've been here.

Lynch King_
At the time there were 2 votes on Hitmonleet, 4 on King and 3 on Texas.
I want to lynch in Knights/Fort today unless someone explains like I'm five how much info the Id flip gives on each of Knights/Fort/Yeti/Texas (I don't care about the info it may give on me).
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Quoting this for reference, I think Knights might make less sense than Fort/Texas as a scum!Ullar buddy after all
unvote vote Yeti
 
Votecount
Moodycloud (2): Hawkie, Lightwolf L-3
Martin (2): Fort Colorcastle, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Yeti (1): Moodycloud
Empoof (1): Empoof

Not voting (2): KnightsofCydonia, Martin
 
Dude I've been talking about a DLE/ullar team since start of day 2

That d3 vote is interesting, it's quite likely there's at most 1 scum on the leet wagon. If Yeti scum she's where I would expect her to be, voting off wagon
 
Votecount
Moodycloud (2): Hawkie, Lightwolf L-3
Yeti (2): Moodycloud, Texas Cloverleaf L-3
Martin (1): Fort Colorcastle
KnightsofCydonia (1): Yeti
Empoof (1): Empoof

Not voting (2): KnightsofCydonia, Martin
 
Basically for vote 3 if both of the following things are not true, Yeti is scum:

- ID and Moody are partners
- no scum ended the day on a wagon (excepting the self-hammer)
 
moody is the one who put leet at l-1 on day 3

there was never a chance for me or any non-voters to switch to leet bc leet self-hammered before deadline and he also never developed a counterwagon that day bc he had been at "can we just lynch him" status after d2

i feel like moody putting the leet wagon at l-1 has been direly overlooked since then

whenever ive pointed it out nobody has really played with that point

but leet couldnt have self-hammered w/o it
 
Half my gamesolve is wrong, so I'm kinda shaken over my reads. I kinda want to vote one of the players who shot down my rally cry, but not LightWolf because he brought up some good points on the plan's flaws.
 
this is gonna sound like an omgus but its been on my mind for a while and i dont think i have seen anything to disprove it

what do people make of texas/moody team

i think the biggest thing against it is moody defending leet while texas bussed him since d1

but that is a good distancing attempt from each other, i guess, once leet goes down
 
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