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NOC Matrix 14 Mafia (Town Wins!)
- Thread starter Texas Cloverleaf
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in what world is whydon a lynch that is difficult to get this game
if you want to come at me come at me
tfw townread most of my wagon
were you in that executioner 8 man that just ran with viper
what was viper like in that game, I did not read much of it; i wont be surprised if little of worth since nuxl tried to mechanically solve it which often means less hard tells
k i'm turning in
and by turning in I mean fucking around playing flash games for another hour before I pass out in the middle of a game but cbf to check this anymore
and by turning in I mean fucking around playing flash games for another hour before I pass out in the middle of a game but cbf to check this anymore
i was but i was trying to lynch heal when the game started and then when i checked again the game finished
hm. alright i've been racking my brain for the past few hours.
someone lmk when it's pro-town for me to claim because i think then we can focus on other wagons. however my flip will probably indicate who's pushing me. eh
i keep rereading this game and other games and my brain just goes to a slow halt. i can't tell whether i'm being pocketed by people off my wagon or if i'm being setup as an easy mislynch by people attempting to go on it.
think d1 towncircle for now is nuxl viper hal with energy and oddish slightly outside the circle
viper's tone reads better here than 2d3 and i think he's brought up good and pure points
energy's opening is so wild that i don't think it comes from scum but on the slight note that energy rolled scum this game and is aware of what he said in reinfrocements in regards to drawing scum in d4
oddish has good tonal indicators, my slgiht nervousness is past experience
dusk's extreme confidence in his read in me is awkward but i really like #184. it's a townie post that i don't think makes a lot of sense for scum to make.
i find a lot of parallels between martin and inferno's presences this game but inferno's had a lot more interactions compared to martin who's pretty standby
this post seems like it comes from town even though i personally believe the justification for both of these reads are actually grasping and horrible. the sad part is the latter part of my last sentence makes me think that inferno is more likely to be town here lmfao
in general, inferno tonally feels town leaning to me whereas i can't really decipher OM room's.
OM room reminds me slightly of my own game in 2d3 where i tried to forge motives for people who didn't end up having any. i consider that town indicative, but it could also be fabrication to push wagons so i'm not really sure. however i don't see a lot of parallels between this game and classic reworked which scares me so i kind of favor the latter honestly
that being said the above two users are in this weird void for me where i could see arguments and motives for both alignments. a lot less so for inferno though.
cantius is weird because his posts are very different compared to everyone in this game. my mindset walking into this was that people that are different are more likely to be town because like with dusk some posts just don't make sense for scum to post. #261 is one of them. #325 and #331 too. but his presence this game feels a little off compared to his assassins game so hmm
i feel like town!asek walks into the game with more analysis and/or obvtowns like in greek and invitational v2 but maybe he just doesn't give a fuck. this spamposting reminds me of reinforcements slightly. don't understand the cantius vote over martin/inferno though but all three are possible wagons for today.
haven't read a scumgame from DLE yet so i'm gonna hold off on my read from him for now. honestly don't think that the above interactions are bad at all but i think he's skilled enough to make this up which scares me.
rn i think dle/asek are not scum together
not the biggest fan of whydon's entrance because it's very coasty and kind of unlike the analysis seen in hope+1. ik they kind of lurked there/in animal mafia but this is just awkward. in the back of my mind something is saying that oddish/energy being scum is weird and different and doesnt come from scum but i think the next three are all reasonable d1 wagons that are entirely safe to push on
unvote
vote whydon
tldr
nuxl > viper > hal
energy > oddish
dusk
cantius > inferno > martin > dle
asek
om room
whydon
i'm assuming you've read both reinforcements and 2d3. did you read me then for my content or for my tone? i think i have more tonal indicators in this game than both but tell me if you think otherwise
most of that game was in my smogon pms and i had tonal reads there that ended up being wrong lmao
interacted w/ om room/viper/dusk. viper seems a lot more townie here than dms, i read dusk as town in dms but he ended up being scum, and i feel different about om room this game compared to my interactions w him. can copypaste em if you want LOL
let's assume my lynch goes through. i will flip town. who do you push on d2?
someone lmk when it's pro-town for me to claim because i think then we can focus on other wagons. however my flip will probably indicate who's pushing me. eh
i keep rereading this game and other games and my brain just goes to a slow halt. i can't tell whether i'm being pocketed by people off my wagon or if i'm being setup as an easy mislynch by people attempting to go on it.
think d1 towncircle for now is nuxl viper hal with energy and oddish slightly outside the circle
viper's tone reads better here than 2d3 and i think he's brought up good and pure points
energy's opening is so wild that i don't think it comes from scum but on the slight note that energy rolled scum this game and is aware of what he said in reinfrocements in regards to drawing scum in d4
oddish has good tonal indicators, my slgiht nervousness is past experience
dusk's extreme confidence in his read in me is awkward but i really like #184. it's a townie post that i don't think makes a lot of sense for scum to make.
i find a lot of parallels between martin and inferno's presences this game but inferno's had a lot more interactions compared to martin who's pretty standby
this post seems like it comes from town even though i personally believe the justification for both of these reads are actually grasping and horrible. the sad part is the latter part of my last sentence makes me think that inferno is more likely to be town here lmfao
in general, inferno tonally feels town leaning to me whereas i can't really decipher OM room's.
OM room reminds me slightly of my own game in 2d3 where i tried to forge motives for people who didn't end up having any. i consider that town indicative, but it could also be fabrication to push wagons so i'm not really sure. however i don't see a lot of parallels between this game and classic reworked which scares me so i kind of favor the latter honestly
that being said the above two users are in this weird void for me where i could see arguments and motives for both alignments. a lot less so for inferno though.
cantius is weird because his posts are very different compared to everyone in this game. my mindset walking into this was that people that are different are more likely to be town because like with dusk some posts just don't make sense for scum to post. #261 is one of them. #325 and #331 too. but his presence this game feels a little off compared to his assassins game so hmm
i feel like town!asek walks into the game with more analysis and/or obvtowns like in greek and invitational v2 but maybe he just doesn't give a fuck. this spamposting reminds me of reinforcements slightly. don't understand the cantius vote over martin/inferno though but all three are possible wagons for today.
haven't read a scumgame from DLE yet so i'm gonna hold off on my read from him for now. honestly don't think that the above interactions are bad at all but i think he's skilled enough to make this up which scares me.
rn i think dle/asek are not scum together
not the biggest fan of whydon's entrance because it's very coasty and kind of unlike the analysis seen in hope+1. ik they kind of lurked there/in animal mafia but this is just awkward. in the back of my mind something is saying that oddish/energy being scum is weird and different and doesnt come from scum but i think the next three are all reasonable d1 wagons that are entirely safe to push on
unvote
vote whydon
tldr
nuxl > viper > hal
energy > oddish
dusk
cantius > inferno > martin > dle
asek
om room
whydon
i'm assuming you've read both reinforcements and 2d3. did you read me then for my content or for my tone? i think i have more tonal indicators in this game than both but tell me if you think otherwise
most of that game was in my smogon pms and i had tonal reads there that ended up being wrong lmao
interacted w/ om room/viper/dusk. viper seems a lot more townie here than dms, i read dusk as town in dms but he ended up being scum, and i feel different about om room this game compared to my interactions w him. can copypaste em if you want LOL
let's assume my lynch goes through. i will flip town. who do you push on d2?
i mean matrix 12 over invitational v2
OM room
do you think inferno and me are ever a team?
actually this is slightly weird
i think oddish made a similar post earlier in #163 with a similar view: nuxl seems townie who had poor reactions to pressure.
why do you scumread oddish when martin and oddish had similar outlooks on my slot?
martin doesn't TR inferno though. what do you think of their interactions now
what do you think of page 4 dusk and #184
it's actually really hard for me to read dusk but i feel like these posts are town motivated
do you think inferno and me are ever a team?
actually this is slightly weird
i think oddish made a similar post earlier in #163 with a similar view: nuxl seems townie who had poor reactions to pressure.
why do you scumread oddish when martin and oddish had similar outlooks on my slot?
martin doesn't TR inferno though. what do you think of their interactions now
what do you think of page 4 dusk and #184
it's actually really hard for me to read dusk but i feel like these posts are town motivated
Whydon is always inactive, as you know from player meta. Don't tell me you don't use player meta because you've literally asked everyone you haven't played with for games they have played.
How many games have town harmed themselves by lynching someone for being inactive? And you want to do it again? Nuxl is by far the best lynch today apricity switch because everyone's going to sheep you. Even in the unlikely event he flips town we get the most info from a nuxl flip imo. Just go for the guy we can be pretty sure is scum D1 rather than messing around trying to do unecessary things.
Asek I can't read because he's not doing much. He would be a good cop imo along the inferno if we have one. Inferno I honestly can't read because if he does something scummy I can't stop thinking "yeah but I could see him do that as town".
This is pretty much town hal note for note if I'm wrong then fair play he really mirrored his town game perfectly.
Martin/energy/whydon are null don't have enough on them.
Cantius is like oddly agression as some people say not that maybe is because he's used to playing 10 minute deadlines and shouting over people. He's probably going to be in my lynch pool regardless:
To me this post is just too oversighted to believe it's the truth. I'm sure he understands what hal is getting at and is only pretending he doesn't so he can say "oh look at me I'm town".
i wasn't criticizing his inactivity? what? i've read both hope+1 and animal in the past few hours. i'd like to think his entrance post would be less awkward than it was and would be more contentful considering how far in the day we are instead of just leaving it at that.
i have never seen you tunnel on anyone this hard
in my slot, what associations do you personally tie with other people?
If you flip town I'd say inferno is probably scum, I can't see any clear partner but you may not even have a partner for all I know.
They said why. They think I was more actively trying to solve the game back in lovers dance which I actually don't agree with? I think hal was the biggest "pusher" in lovers dance, I didn't really have a solve of my own until after the lynch on him and that was kinda just me stating what I felt was the most obvious conclusion
i am being confbiased in almost literally every post you make of me this game?
you sparred with hal but you at least give him credit in regards to some of his content in hope+1 because you opened yourself to do so
it's fine if you don't agree with anything what i'm saying, whatever, but you've twisted the words in my posts this game twice already so i just have this feeling you're not even taking the time to analyze any sort of mindset behind my posts
is that really it? just inferno?
i kind of insinuated that inferno townread martin, one of his reasons being his thoughts on me so i found it weird he made the opposite without seeing what you said even though you said it earlier
i also don't agree with his reasoning but town!inferno in lovers was so wild that i think the reads post he made could have come from a towny mindset
Vote Cantius
Yeah this guy is still pinging me. I feel like they're demanding a lot from others without really putting much out their themselves
Also their read on dle is still weird and they still had event explained it
Yeah this guy is still pinging me. I feel like they're demanding a lot from others without really putting much out their themselves
Like??? Tagging three low posters demanding reads and justifying it by saying that it requires players to give some more effort when they're also a low poster who hasn't really laid out much of their own thought processes
Also their read on dle is still weird and they still had event explained it
Well actually inferno's not really a low poster but my point still stands
Don't think I've twisted anything, I've just given my opinion on what you said. Also yeah inferno is super odd for me too as I've said before. Even if he does something scummy I'd believe he would do it as town.
Yeah cantius reason for picking these players isn't clear to me. If he picked all the inactivws I mean maybe but why throw inferno in there? He could be looking for an easy lynch. I'm happy to put a bit of pressure in this slot for a while because I'm not really going anywhere with nuxl.
Vote Cantius