Metagame MediocreMons

Hey guys, I made a list of what I think the top ten mons in the meta are: https://pastebin.com/FsnAdssN

Lemmie know what you guys think!

Proof:
In this metagame, only nearly 50 pokemon are viable ( not 418 ) and we can easily put them into straight categories ( Of course some pokemon can be in 2 categories like Golbat for Hazer and Defogger, but it's rare.) We can see that every match have two objectives: win hazards war and win setup war.
Spikes users:
* SR:
-Solrock (B)
-Lunatone (B)
-Gabite (B)
-Smeargle (B)
-Mawile (B)
-Corsola (D)
-Palmitoad (D)
* Spikes:
-Ferroseed (A)
-Squilfish (C)
-Garbodor (C)
* Sticky Web:
-Ariados (C)

Hazards Removers:
-Xatu (S)
-Golbat (B)
-Vullaby (B)
-Wartortle (B)

Dual screeners: -Klefcki (A)

Setup users:
* Sword Dance:
-Shedinja (D)
-Bibarel (D)
-Pawniard (D)
* Belly Drum:
-Slurpuff (S)
-Poliwrath (B)
* Quiver Dance:
-Sensu Oricorio (A)
-Pa'u Oricorio (C)
-Pom-pom Oricorio (A)
-Baile Oricorio (B)
-Vivilion (B)
* Bulk up / Coil:
-Malamar (A)
-Arbok (C)
* Guts: -Raticate (A)
* Dragon Dance: -Dragonair (E)

* Nasty Plot: -Pikachu (A)

Sweeper without setup:
-Abomasnow (B)
-Frogadier (A)
-Togedemaru (A)
-Krokorok (C)
-Rotom (A)
-Magnemite (C)

Rain setter: -Volbeat (B)
Rain abusers:
-Golduck (B)
-Swanna (A)
-Basculin (A)

Wisher: Lickitung (A)
Anti-Setup:
* Unaware: -Quagsire (S)
* Revenge killer: -Ditto (D)
* Hazer: -Mareanie (D)
Staller without role:
-Tropius (E)
-Sableye (E)

I put a viability rankings too.
For me:
S: Excellent pokemon which build and centralize the metagame. ( Example: QUAGSIRE )
A: Very good pokemon with few weaknesses. ( Example: Basculin )
B: Good pokemon but need some support. ( Example: Golduck )
C: Bad pokemon in general but in some teams, it's good. ( Example: Ariados )
D: Very bad pokemon in general. But in very specific teams, it's not bad. ( Example: Mareanie in Hard-Stall.)
E: Bad pokemon. Don't use them. ( Example: Tropius )

What do you think ?
 
Hey guys, you're forgetting about the ultimate terror. P H I O N E


No but for real, this Pokemon got an amazing tool this generation. Liquidation, which allows it to actually put some offensive pressure while also providing utility, and it makes it somewhat hard to switch into, given its decent 80 speed.

Phione @ Life Orb
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Liquidation
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Heal Bell / Toxic

Liquidation is such a nice and spammable move, and I'm really surprised I haven't seen it being talked about more.
 
Hey guys, you're forgetting about the ultimate terror. P H I O N E


No but for real, this Pokemon got an amazing tool this generation. Liquidation, which allows it to actually put some offensive pressure while also providing utility, and it makes it somewhat hard to switch into, given its decent 80 speed.

Phione @ Life Orb
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Liquidation
- Knock Off
- U-turn
- Heal Bell / Toxic

Liquidation is such a nice and spammable move, and I'm really surprised I haven't seen it being talked about more.
phione actually kinda sounds good to me is that bad? cause of its some what high stats across the board I could see it as possibly dangerous
 
phione actually kinda sounds good to me is that bad? cause of its some what high stats across the board I could see it as possibly dangerous
Honestly I'm really excited to try it out in the metagame, it looks REALLY promising.
You could alternatively run a special set with options like Dazzling Gleam, Grass Knot, Ice Beam, Signal Beam, Scald, etc, but it doesn't have the utility or offensive pressure of the Liquidation Utility set
 
if silvally was insanely powerful with its 95s across the board phione should have no problem right? also this might sound really really stupid but what about scarfed basculin the only thing that can outpseed it is priority and another one but its the fastest pokemon in mediocre mons but it has respectable attack as well
 
Wait, am I dreaming or is my boy Rotom finally good in a meta? :swole:
Rotom's a nice pick with some great stats; although regular Rotom is a beast in NU as well.
if silvally was insanely powerful with its 95s across the board phione should have no problem right? also this might sound really really stupid but what about scarfed basculin the only thing that can outpseed it is priority and another one but its the fastest pokemon in mediocre mons but it has respectable attack as well
Basculin is also a nice pick; basically you could either choose Phione for the extra bulk + utility allowing it to punch holes + be a cleric, or choose Basculin for absurd power and speed, even if you're one-dimensional and more on the frail side.
 
togedemaru seems pretty powerful physically with pretty good speed oricorio seems like the special counter part but maybe fire/flying could be good because its like a mini moltres slap a specs on that thing and go to town or electric flying to be a mini zapdos cant forget corsola now can we for defenses it seems

also unown is actually semi usable with its 75 special but its still majorly outclassed but hey at least its easier to use meme pokemon
 
Here's it's time to shine, I present to you all... Farfetch'd!



With a great attack stat in 90 and fantastic coverage, Farfetch'd now has a niche as a Revenge Killing Scarfer or an Agility boosting Sweeper. With Scarf patching up its mediocre speed, you'd be surprised just how much this thing can handle.

Farfetch'd @ Choice Scarf / Life Orb
Ability: Defiant
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly / Adamant Nature
- Leaf Blade
- Knock Off / Throat Chop
- Brave Bird
- U-turn / First Impression / Return / Poison Jab / Agility

Leaf Blade is one of this thing's best assets, and can decimate Rocks, Grounds, and Waters with easy, making a lot of normal Flying type switch in's unable to handle it. Knock Off is another fantastic tool providing utility although you could use Throat Chop for consistent, reliable damage as well, and Brave Bird is almighty glorious STAB. The last slot is a toss-up between specific needs. If you need to keep momentum and expect a ton of switchs, slap on U-Turn. If you need an answer to other particular scarfers or set up sweepers, priority First Impression is another fantastic choice. STAB Return is also good as well for additional coverage and non-recoil inducing reliable power. If you're really having trouble with Fairies, you could always run Poison Jab. This Pokemon is a wonderful answer to Intimidate switch-in's thanks to its fantastic ability in Defiant, boosting its already great attack to frightening levels.

Agility is required if you're going to run anything other than Scarf, as its speed is still not that great. However once you have an Agility set up you can REALLY make that awesome coverage work for you. Farfetch'd also really appreciates Webs and Rocks support.

There are some other neat options in its movepool, such as Iron Tail for a strong Steel type move, and STAB Last Resort for insane power if you want to run a more gimmicky set with just Agility and Last Resort. STAB Acrobatics and STAB Priority in Quick Attack are also viable options. STAB Body Slam is interesting for its 30% paralysis chance, but it's generally gimmicky. Facade is another useful STAB move as well in case it gets status'd. Farfetch'd also gets a variety of boosting moves like Swords Dance and Work Up, but Agility is generally preferred. It also has an unusually high amount of Support options including Defog, Baton Pass, Final Gambit, Reflect, Roost, Tailwind, Whirlwind, Wish, Endure, and Yawn.

Well, what are you waiting for? It's Farfetch'd's time to shine.
 

G-Luke

We Eat Losers
is a Forum Moderatoris a Community Contributor
Moderator
is villvian good?

what about arbok?

(is there a viability list?)

some of the lc pokemon seem kinda fun and gimmicky
Vivillon is a great sweeper, but suffers from a terrible defensive typing and being outsped by every viable Scarfer outside of Abomasnow. It can however, be a pain for teams to actually handle defensively.

Arbok is an ok sweeper, but you generally have much better options for sweeping.
 

Users Who Are Viewing This Thread (Users: 1, Guests: 1)

Top