Pet Mod Mega Revolution

[G-Luke]

Ok doing a review! Good news is most of the subs here imo are fine, so only a few comments here.

A blanket statement I will make us please remove Doom Desire from Lucario subs. Its pretty broken.

Also remember mons like Lopunny and Audino will be joining us eventually, so I'd be careful on what Typings and roles we tinker with.

Lupwawet

Mega being Revolved: Mega Lucario
New Pokémon Name: Lupwawet (Lupus (wolf in latin) + Wepwawet (Egyptian jackal deity))
Stats: 75 / 110 / 75 / 120 / 75 / 70 (525 BST)
Typing:

Abilities: Adaptability / Inner Focus / Scrappy
Movepool Additions: + Mach Punch, Hyper Voice
Niche: Honestly, this felt so busted as I was making it that I didn’t add any BST. It’s a very powerful priority user that can absolutely clean teams that aren’t prepared. It can choose abilities between raw power on its stabs and being able to beat Ghosts. If it picks adaptability, it’ll have to rely on Crunch or Dpulse to take out ghosts, but its low speed means it should be revenge killed pretty easily granted it has to use its coverage move. Psychic terrain completely shuts it down (unless you run a full special set, but why would you?), but it’s extremely dangerous if it can set up a Swords Dance. Not entirely sure whether this sub is too OP or not.

This Mon feels like Super ekiller Arceus, trading it's speed and bulk for power. I think it needs a pretty strong retooling here, STAB Espeed + the right STAB to beat resists is too much trouble.

New Pokémon Name: Specerth
Stats: 60/65/65/135/75/130 (BST: 525)
Typing:

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Abilities: Shadow Tag/Cursed Body
Movepool Additions: Earth Power, Spikes
Niche: It's not trapped in the room with you... You're trapped in the room with it. Which allows it to swap into pokemon that can't touch it, trap them, spam Nasty Plot, and rest is pretty obvious. You shadow ball their pokemon, and proceed to sweep.



New Pokémon Name: Orichikal
Stats: 70/110/70/135/70/100 (BST: 555)
Typing:

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Abilities: Adaptability/Mega Launcher/Justified
Movepool Additions: None
Niche: Eyyyyyyy! Guess what pokemon happens to learn all of the Mega Launcher moves, AND has a near-signiture move that's also boosted!

These subs are abhorrently strong. I request a nerf on both of these quickly.

New Pokémon Name: Grandgar
Stats: 80 / 95 / 110 / 70 / 85 / 90 (BST: 530)
Typing: Ghost / Poison
Abilities: Shadow Tag / Bad Dreams
Movepool Additions: Spore, Hone Claws
Niche

I'd ask for Sleep Powder over Spore, simply so there is an actual risk to using this Pokémon.

The thought process behind all these is "The only way to keep someone away from blindly choosing power, its adding utility that helps in more scenarios as a option". Because both parental bond and adaptability boost offense by a ridiculous amount, reducing offense to a reasonable amount leaves us with very bulky pokemon, even without adding more BST. I decided to make kangaskhan closer to a wall and lucario a set-up sweeper. The gengar is not as logical, i just miss gen 6 days of using gengar as a amazing ttar partner with almost perfect defensive synergy.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Kangaskhan
New Pokémon Name: Kailiama (Kaiser + Marsupialia + Mama)
Stats: 115 / 50 / 70 / 85 / 120 / 50
Typing:

Abilities: Parental bond / Natural Cure / Oblivious
Movepool Additions: From Kangaskhan +Milk Drink, Heal Bell, Play Rough, Thunder Wave, Hyper Voice, Moonblast, Lovely Kiss, Draining Kiss, Calm mind.
From Kangaskhan -Seismic Toss, Fire Blast, Blizzard, Thunder.
Niche: This pokemon can stand out as a wall or bulky calm mind user, as a wall its access to heal bell and wish allows it to support other teammates, or use milk drink to heal after tanking hits. As a calm mind user its decent physical bulk and parental bond make it very powerful after a few boosts, either natural cure or oblivious can also be used if status conditions are bigger problems for your team.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Lucario
New Pokémon Name: Adamis (Adamant + Anubis)
Stats: 80 / 85 / 100 / 85 / 75 / 100
Typing:

Abilities: Adaptability, Competitive, Guts
Movepool Additions: + Bonemerang, Earth Power.
Niche: A fast set-up sweeper with great coverage and stats on both sides of the spectrum, Guts can be used over adaptability on physical sets and competitive in special sets for situational boosts, but adaptability is still the preferred ability.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Gengar
New Pokémon Name: Chesanger (Chesire + doppelgänger)
Stats: 80 / 50 / 85 / 100 / 110 / 105
Typing:

Abilities: Shadow Tag / Levitate
Movepool Additions: Recover, Glare, Parting Shot, Future Sight
Niche: Gengar has a interesting defensive typing, its a decent switch in to various fairy, fighting and (when it had levitate) ground types, and often forced them out with offensive pressure or utility moves like will-o-wisp. Since the original is not running eviolite (Even if the evolution outclassed it on offensive roles), and already has good enough offensive stats, i decided to take advantage of these qualities and make the evolution a bulky pokemon, reflecting how each gengar evolution seems to get a more physically solid body. The addition of recover and higher overall bulk allows this gengar to perform better on fast bulky support roles with substitute and will-o-wisp, and be more aggresive switching into resisted hits. The addition of glare and parting shot gives this evolution more choices in spreading status and more utility as a pivot, future sight is more of a flavor addition.

I think your subs are underpowered. I understand the scare that these formally Uber pokes offer, but as you can see, several users have utilized the tools given to make solid and non gimmicky Pokemon. I'd say you should really look into it. (Lucario is simply too weak, while Gengar doesn't lean into bulky Ghost niche enough while being rivaled by Zipette.)

 

[Tapler]

Mega being Revolved: Mega Gengar
New Pokémon Name: Athameye
Stats: 75 / 55 / 60 / 135 / 100 / 105
Typing:

Abilities: Bulletproof / Shadow Tag
Movepool: Gengar’s Movepool + Burning Jealousy, Nightmare, Parting Shot, Spectral Thief

You can’t shoot a ghost, and with Bulletproof, you can’t Shadow Ball one either. Combined with the vastly improved special bulk, this makes it easy for Athameye to switch in on its fellow special Ghost-types and capitalize on their switch to either set up Nasty Plot or provide momentum with Parting Shot. Spectral Thief allows Athameye to act as a hard stop to Calm Mind mons like Clefable, Tapu Fini, and non-double dance Magearna, while Burning Jealousy is some weak but usable coverage for Steels that aren‘t weak to Focus Blast.

 

[Gyltia]

This Mon feels like Super ekiller Arceus, trading it's speed and bulk for power. I think it needs a pretty strong retooling here, STAB Espeed + the right STAB to beat resists is too much trouble.

Thanks for the feedback. As I said previously I wasn't sure whether it was balanced at all and had made it with Arceus in mind (but didn’t think it would be as strong). I tried to move some stats around to lower its power, but after seeing that its Espeed still hit as hard as Arceus’ with only 85 Atk, I decided to change the concept. Hopefully I’ve done better this time. Feel free to give me feedback if there’s still an issue.

 

[G-Luke]

24 Hour Warning to close subs. I just want to make a general assertion that I would personally like the Lucario subs to not break 120 offensive stats. Crawdaunt is a fairly viable breaker and it has 55 speed, frailer defenses and a worse defensive typing. If Lucario subs do break this point, they will be skipped.

 

[Scoopapa]

New Pokémon Name: Dopplar
Stats: 70/70/70/140/75/105 (BST: 530)
Typing:

Abilities: Shadow Tag | Infiltrator (HA)
Movepool Additions: Psyshock, Future Sight, Calm Mind, Stored Power
Niche: Although a generally worse type, Dopplar gains STAB Psyshock to hit special walls and more attack power in general. 105 still outspeeds the Charizard evos, which helps.


New Pokémon Name: Matilla
Stats: 125/125/70/50/70/80 (BST: 530)
Typing:

Abilities: Early Bird / Scrappy | Parental Bond (HA)
Movepool Additions: Crush Claw, Close Combat, Knock Off, Milk Drink, -Seismic Toss
Niche: Mama's a little slower and more vulnerable with baby around, but she's put on some extra fat and is far more aggressive in the face of danger.


New Pokémon Name: Kylario
Stats: 75/120/105/105/70/80 (BST: 555)
Typing:

Abilities: Steadfast / Inner Focus | Adaptability (HA)
Movepool Additions:
Niche: Hopefully with the lowered speed this will not be too overbearing. Nuclear Close Combat and boosted Bullet Punch are pretty nice assets, though, and it has a better defensive presence now.

 

[G-Luke]

Voting time!

Gengar-Mega

Phantoghast

Mega Being Revolved: Gengar
New Pokemon Name: Phatoghast
Stats: 60 / 130 / 80 / 65 / 90 / 110 (530 BST)
Typing: View attachment 307994 View attachment 307995
Abilities: Shadow Tag / Iron Fist
Movepool Additions: Mach Punch, Hammer Arm, Shadow Sneak, Bulk Up
Niche: Gengar can finally utilize it's physical movepool, especially it's punching moves, with it's ability, and it has a nice typing combination.

Congrats to the winners!

Altergeist

Mega being Revolved: Mega Gengar
New Pokémon Name: Altergeist (Alter ego + Poltergeist)
Stats: 85 / 55 / 65 / 105 / 95 / 125 (530 BST)
Typing:

Abilities: Shadow Tag / Merciless
Movepool Additions: + Toxic Spikes, Venom Drench, Baneful Bunker, Toxic Thread
Niche: I thought the ability fit very well flavor-wise, so I did my best to make it into a balanced sub. Given that this is a regular evolution, I assume we can’t remove moves, in which case I would have scrapped Nasty Plot, which could stir Altergeist into the wrong direction… hopefully it won’t (given that regular Gengar doesn’t need a good ability to sweep, I lowered the SpA more than I originally intended). It’s a good support mon / lead with a plethora of options that can abuse crit stab Venoshock and Hex to deal good damage if it manages to set Tspikes, predict with Baneful Banker or poison on defensive switch-ins (it has the pretty fun Toxic Thread though I can't think of when that would be useful). It’s very fast and bulky enough to tank resisted hits rather well.

New Pokémon Name: Dimster
Stats: 70 / 65 / 70 / 130 / 85 / 110 (BST: 530)
Typing:

Abilities: Shadow Tag / Emergency Exit
Movepool Additions: Thunder Wave, Doom Desire, Flash Cannon, Steel Beam, Iron Head, Metal Sound
Niche: Was hard to find a niche for mister dim when Gengar is already pretty decent ngl. Decided to go with an unorthodox ability to make him something that could utilize emergency exit. With just enough speed to make progress in one turn against some stuff, he can serve as an unusual pivot that's for sure going to help you progress in your match thanks to TWave and Doom Desire.

New Pokémon Name: Doppelinger (doppelganger + linger)
Stats: 80/80/85/90/95/100 | 530 BST
Typing: Ghost/Poison
Abilities: Shadow Tag, Suction Cups
Movepool Additions: Bulk Up, Calm Mind, Cosmic Power, Strength Sap
Niche: All-around setup attacker that cannot be switched out.

New Pokémon Name: Specerth
Stats: 60/65/85/125/75/120 (BST: 525)
Typing:

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Abilities: Shadow Tag/Cursed Body
Movepool Additions: Earth Power, Spikes
Niche: It's not trapped in the room with you... You're trapped in the room with it. Which allows it to swap into pokemon that can't touch it, trap them, spam Nasty Plot, and rest is pretty obvious. You shadow ball their pokemon, and proceed to sweep.

New Pokémon Name: Grandgar
Stats: 80 / 95 / 110 / 70 / 85 / 90 (BST: 530)
Typing: Ghost / Poison
Abilities: Shadow Tag / Bad Dreams
Movepool Additions: Spore Sleep Powder, Hone Claws, Gunk Shot

Mega being Revolved: Gengar-Mega
New Pokémon Name: Shadowgeist (...please don't sue me, Arika)
Stats: 65 HP / 70 Atk / 65 Def / 135 SpA / 80 SpD / 115 Spe
Typing:

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Abilities: Levitate / Shadow Tag ({banned} hidden ability)
Movepool Additions: none
Niche: A strong special attacker that gets a lot of relatively free switch-ins due to its high amount of type immunities--four--granted by getting Levitate back in addition to no longer being weak to Pursuit or Sucker Punch (or anything other than Fairy now). It can be Poisoned now, but that's definitely a more than fair trade for getting to come even more freely than regular Gengar previously could, which I tried not to obviate by changing the secondary typing to something far less helpful attacking-wise even if this mon still has all the coverage it needs and more (and now STAB Sucker Punch to troll people). Gengar is already still rather good from what little I know of Gen 8 OU, with it mostly just pushed out solely by the busted Ghost-Horse unless Pursuit exists, so this design also keeps that in mind--hence the lazy stat line boosts.

Mega Being Revolved: Gengar
New Pokémon Name: Polterspook (Poltergeist + Spook)
Stats: 60/65/80/130/85/110 BST: 530
Typing: Ghost/Dark
Abilities: Psychic Surge HA: Shadow Tag
Movepool Additions: Gengar's + Psyshock, Thunder Wave, Toxic Spikes, Dive, Lock On, Safe Guard, Magic Coat
Niche: This Pokémon is built to Hit hard specially and try to wipe out the opponent as fast as it can. it has toxic spikes and T wave for needed status, and safe guard to protect itself and allies from status, and Magic Coat to bounce back unneeded hazards or statuses. it has Lock On for a Non-Miss move the next turn, dive for physical sets to become semi invulnerable, and Psyshock to hit Pokémon like Blissey and Chancey

Mega being Revolved: Mega Gengar
New Pokémon Name: Chesanger (Chesire + doppelgänger)
Stats: 85 / 50 / 80 / 100 / 90 / 125
Typing:

Abilities: Shadow Tag / Levitate
Movepool Additions: Recover, Glare, Parting Shot, Future Sight
Niche: Gengar has a interesting defensive typing, its a decent switch in to various fairy, fighting and (when it had levitate) ground types, and often forced them out with offensive pressure or utility moves like will-o-wisp. Since the original is not running eviolite (Even if the evolution outclassed it on offensive roles), and already has good enough offensive stats, i decided to take advantage of these qualities and make the evolution a bulkier pokemon, reflecting how each gengar evolution seems to get a more physically solid body. The addition of recover, a immunity and higher overall bulk allows this gengar to be more aggresive switching into resisted hits. The addition of glare and parting shot gives this evolution more choices in spreading status and more utility as a pivot, future sight is more of a flavor addition. The immediate power of gengar its sacrificed in exchange for a better speed tier and bulk that is superior to tornadus therian (altho Tornadus is still more durable when you factor in regenerator)

First of all, thanks to the council for letting me join them! It means a lot!

Anyways here are my subs

Mega being Revolved: Mega Gengar
New Pokémon Name: Phairtom (Fairy + Phantom)
Stats: 60 | 105 | 60 | 110 | 75 | 120 (530)
Typing:

Abilities: Cursed Body | Shadow Tag (HA)
Movepool Additions: Moonblast, Draining Kiss, Play Rough, Swords Dance

Niche

This one serves as a fast mixed attacker with boosting options such as Nasty Plot and Swords Dance. It has a good defensive/offensive typing and its coverage helps it out a lot. Defensively it has 3 immunities, which are Normal, Fighting and Dragon with a four times resistence to Bug (which isn't that impactful, but it's there). Offensively Fairy covers Dark and Normal, while Ghost covers Poison, Steel and Fire. This type combinations gives it perfect coverage, but it can still run Focus Blast, Thunderbolt, Energy Ball, etc. to hit whatever it wants.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Gengar
New Pokémon Name: Athameye
Stats: 75 / 55 / 60 / 135 / 100 / 105
Typing:

Abilities: Bulletproof / Shadow Tag
Movepool: Gengar’s Movepool + Burning Jealousy, Nightmare, Parting Shot, Spectral Thief

You can’t shoot a ghost, and with Bulletproof, you can’t Shadow Ball one either. Combined with the vastly improved special bulk, this makes it easy for Athameye to switch in on its fellow special Ghost-types and capitalize on their switch to either set up Nasty Plot or provide momentum with Parting Shot. Spectral Thief allows Athameye to act as a hard stop to Calm Mind mons like Clefable, Tapu Fini, and non-double dance Magearna, while Burning Jealousy is some weak but usable coverage for Steels that aren‘t weak to Focus Blast.

New Pokémon Name: Dopplar
Stats: 70/70/70/140/75/105 (BST: 530)
Typing:

Abilities: Shadow Tag | Infiltrator (HA)
Movepool Additions: Psyshock, Future Sight, Calm Mind, Stored Power
Niche: Although a generally worse type, Dopplar gains STAB Psyshock to hit special walls and more attack power in general. 105 still outspeeds the Charizard evos, which helps.

Kangaskhan-Mega

Sorry for the uncreative name.

Kangasgon

Mega Being Revolved: Kangaskhan
New Pokemon Name: Kangasgon
Stats: 105 / 100 / 85 / 45 / 85 / 100 (520 BST)
Typing: View attachment 308001 View attachment 308002
Abilities: Parental Bond / Guts / Moxie
Movepool Additions: Scale Shot, Dragon Claw, -Seismic Toss
Niche: TBH, I think you shouldn't run Parental Bond on this, you should run Guts. It's way better, and it has a nice speed tier to utilize Guts. It's also common sense.

Pharmaroo

Mega being Revolved: Mega Kangaskhan
New Pokémon Name: Pharmaroo (pharma (medicine) + kangaroo)
Stats: 115 / 70 / 90 / 85 / 100 / 60 (520 BST)
Typing:

Abilities: Early Bird / Thick Fat / Parental Bond
Movepool Additions: + Parting Shot, Draining Kiss, Play Rough, Moonblast, Heal Bell, Moonlight, Hyper Voice - Seismic Toss
Niche: I thought I might as well make a defensive sub to balance the two others. The end result is better than I anticipated: turns Normal/Fairy is a pretty decent typing, completely walling Dragapult and being the only fairy who can reliably switch into Spectrier. With the addition of Thick Fat for common elemental resistances, it becomes a good cleric and wishpasser with parting shot. It still has the option to run parental bond if you want to make use of his godly coverage to take out specific threats, without needing to invest much into attacking stats if you're hitting x4 weaknesses anyways.

New Pokémon Name: Tagaroo (tag team + kangaroo)
Stats: 77/99/88/113/77/66 | 520 BST
Typing: Normal/Fighting
Abilities: Parental Bond, Scrappy, Emergency Exit
Movepool Additions: Tri Attack, Extreme Speed, Mach Punch, Vacuum Wave, Aura Sphere
Niche: With toned-down bulk and Speed, Tagaroo is discouraged from using Seismic Toss and encouraged to use its raw offensive stats, potentially with Work Up and its priority options.

New Pokémon Name: Spartaroo
Stats: 105/100/100/40/80/95 (BST: 520)
Typing:

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Abilities: Parental Bond/Scrappy/Inner Focus
Movepool Additions: Bulk Up
Niche: Has potential with dual STAB PUP, Body slam as main STAB, and the crazy coverage that comes with being a gen 1 normal.

Mega Being Revolved: Kangaskhan
New Pokemon Name: Marokhan
Stats: 125 / 105 / 85 / 40 / 75 / 90 (520 BST)
Typing: Normal / Ghost
Abilities: Parental Bond / Scrappy / Sheer Force
Movepool Additions: Shadow Bone, Poltergeist,

Mega being Revolved: Kangaskhan-Mega
New Pokémon Name: Kangatwo (...feel the overflowing creativity) [EDIT: Getting rid of the "s" in "Kangastwo", especially if it's an alternate form now.]
Stats: 120 HP / 108 Atk / 81 Def / 30 SpA / 90 SpD / 91 Spe
Typing:

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Abilities: Early Bird / Sap Sipper / Parental Bond (hidden ability)
Movepool Additions: Bulk Up, Encore, High Horsepower, Milk Drink, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Stomping Tantrum [EDIT: Encore and Milk Drink have been added.]
Movepool Subtractions: Drain Punch, Seismic Toss
Niche: A bulky mon with a good speed for one that also has a quite good STAB combination and can choose to shore up its defenses or health with either of its non-Parental Bond abilities. It would also be the best Sap Sipper in general most likely given that its new Ground typing makes it resist the Poison coverage that the majority of Powder users and Grass mons in general tend to cover; it also basically walls Rotom-Mow with it (and Facade), even though that's hardly that relevant. A bit difficult to make it want to completely give up Seismic Toss on Parental Bond (at least before we could excise Seismic Toss), but given that it can run Choice Band now to up its power, the amount of Attack is probably fine honestly, especially with STAB on Ground attacks too now.

Mega Being Revolved: Kangaskhan
New Pokémon Name: Kangokicker (Kangaroo + Kicker)
Stats: 105/115/80/40/80/100 BST: 520
Typing: Normal/Fighting
Abilities: Skill Link/Parental Bond HA: Moxie
Movepool Additions: Kangaskhan's + Blaze Kick, High Jump Kick, Double Kick, Triple Kick, Rolling Kick, Triple Axle, Rock Blast, Bullet Punch, Superpower, Iron Head, Mach Punch, Quick Guard
Niche: This Pokémon is built to last in a fight and dish out some wins, it has Basically ALL MOVES THAT INVOLVE KICKING for its kicking heart's content. while also obtaining some moves for skill link/sheer force and a boost in its coverage possibilities. and Quick Guard to counter Triage/Prankster and priority users/Abusers

The thought process behind all these is "The only way to keep someone away from blindly choosing power, its adding utility that helps in more scenarios as a option". Because both parental bond and adaptability boost offense by a ridiculous amount, reducing offense to a reasonable amount leaves us with very bulky pokemon. I decided to make kangaskhan closer to a wall and lucario a set-up sweeper. The gengar is not as logical, i just miss gen 6 days of using gengar as a amazing ttar partner with almost perfect defensive synergy.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Kangaskhan
New Pokémon Name: Kailiama (Kaiser + Marsupialia + Mama)
Stats: 120 / 50 / 80 / 90 / 120 / 60
Typing:

Abilities: Parental bond / Natural Cure / Oblivious
Movepool Additions: From Kangaskhan +Milk Drink, Heal Bell, Play Rough, Thunder Wave, Hyper Voice, Moonblast, Lovely Kiss, Draining Kiss, Calm mind.
From Kangaskhan -Seismic Toss, Fire Blast, Blizzard, Thunder.
Niche: This pokemon can stand out as a wall or bulky calm mind user, as a wall its access to heal bell and wish allows it to support other teammates, or use milk drink to heal after tanking hits. As a calm mind user its decent physical bulk and parental bond make it very powerful after a few boosts, either natural cure or oblivious can also be used if status conditions are bigger problems for your team.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Kangaskhan
New Pokémon Name: Cumobone (Cub + Mother + Bone)
Stats: 110 | 95 | 95 | 55 | 95 | 70 (520)
Typing:

Abilities: Parental Bond | Inner Focus | Scrappy (HA)
Movepool Additions: Same as Kangaskhan: +Slack Off, Knock Off, Bonemerang, Shadow Bone, Bulk Up | -Seismic Toss

Niche

Look it's Cubones lost mother! Anyways like Phairtom, Cumobone has a really good offensive typing, that has its defensive benefits such as 2 immunities in Ghost and Electric. It's a bulky attacker/bulky set-up sweeper. With Parental Bond it can aim for Status with moves such as Body Slam or it can recover some HP with Drain Punch. Bonemerang/EQ deal huge damage with PB and Stab. It's outclassed by Diggersby since it has a way higher damage output with SD and Huge Power, but Cumobone has better longevity, better bulk, utility/support options and it also has a good ability.

New Pokémon Name: Matilla
Stats: 125/125/70/50/70/80 (BST: 530)
Typing:

Abilities: Early Bird / Scrappy | Parental Bond (HA)
Movepool Additions: Crush Claw, Close Combat, Knock Off, Milk Drink, -Seismic Toss
Niche: Mama's a little slower and more vulnerable with baby around, but she's put on some extra fat and is far more aggressive in the face of danger.

Lucario-Mega

Phararoura

Mega Being Revolved: Lucario
New Pokemon Name: Phararoura
Stats: 70 / 115 / 80 / 115 / 75 / 100 (555 BST)
Typing: View attachment 308008 View attachment 308009
Abilities: Adaptability / Mold Breaker / Quick Feet
Movepool Additions: None
Niche: Has some nice abilities, with a nice typing, and good coverage. This seems like it can be a nice sweeper in the metagame.

Lupwawet

Mega being Revolved: Mega Lucario
New Pokémon Name: Lupwawet (Lupus (wolf in latin) + Wepwawet (Egyptian jackal deity))
Stats: 75 / 115 / 79 / 117 / 79 / 65 (525 BST)
Typing:

Abilities: Adaptability / Inner Focus / Scrappy
Movepool Additions: + Mach Punch
Niche: Realising just how much more powerful than Arceus my previous sub was, I’m trying something similar but (hopefully) less busted. Basically, it’s also a priority user, but 40 BP priority, which still hits hard with Adapt. It can also be a powerful wallbreaker with specs, with which he can spam his stabs to great effect. Its speed is tuned down so no fast versions are really viable, even with Agility (it gets outsped by scarfs above 103 Spe at +2), because I think it would just be too threatening. However, against slow teams, it can absolutely shred defensive cores with either Nasty Plot or Swords Dance. In the vein of strong prio users like Scizor or Crawdaunt, it can clean with a choice band and even has the option to run Vacuum Wave on special sets.

New Pokémon Name: Ricalcio
Stats: 72 / 115 / 90 / 120 / 70 / 88 (BST: 555)
Typing:

Abilities: Steadfast / Inner Focus / Adaptability
Movepool Additions:
Niche: Apprently Riolu and Lucario come from the word "Orichalcum" so I made a name based on that. Basically a Lucario with Adaptability which is already kind of a nuts boost. His numbers aren't that high and he struggles to switch in, but boy does he pressure your opponent, esp with doom desire now in his arsenal scratch that thats way too strong oof.

New Pokémon Name: Jackalition (jackal + apparition / demolition)
Stats: 80/100/85/93/90/107 | 555 BST
Typing: Fighting/Ghost
Abilities: Adaptability, Cursed Body, Justified
Movepool Additions: Curse, Shadow Sneak, Shadow Bone
Niche: Kinda like Marshadow but not as broken and with more mixed potential.

New Pokémon Name: Gaiacario
Stats: 75 / 95 / 70 / 110 / 115 / 90 (BST: 555)
Typing: Fighting / Ground
Abilities: Technician / Natural Cure / Adaptability
Movepool Additions: Scorching Sans
Niche:

Mega being Revolved: Lucario-Mega
New Pokémon Name: Luauracle (unfortunately there's no way to have not look like "luau" if I want to keep the "Lu")
Stats: 80 HP / 115 Atk / 80 Def / 115 SpA / 80 SpD / 85 Spe
Typing:

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Abilities: Guts / No Guard / Adaptability (hidden ability)
Movepool Additions: Calm Mind, Future Sight [EDIT #2: Doom Desire excised, G-Luke.]
Niche: Essentially a differently typed Nidoking that gets to pick from three terrifying abilities, isn't wedded to Life Orb, and has a ridiculous amount of priority, Luauracle is meant to be equally adept on both sides of the attacking spectrum, even when it's not on the field. Honestly, outside of Gravity Monkey doing the initial idea that I vaguely had first, the hardest thing about this was how picking two abilities besides Adaptability that this mon might actually use instead given how stupidly powerful Adaptability actually is. No Guard means STAB Focus Blasts or STAB Iron Tail from those high attack stats, where as Guts means STAB Close Combat and priority attacks and pseudo-immunity to Burn. It might be a bit too bulky for its horrific offensive nature and thus still broken, but I basically had to pour the actual allowed additional stat boosts into defensive stats solely lest this be even more absurd than it already is on paper. Finally, I doubt it will ever use Calm Mind over Nasty Plot, but Calm Mind fits with the "oracle" aspect of this mon.


Regardless of whoever wins, stay safe everyone, especially this week.

Mega Being Revolved: Lucario
New Pokémon Name: Auranger (Aura + Ranger)
Stats: 80/115/80/110/70/90 BST: 555
Typing: Steel/Fighting
Abilities: Tangled Feet/Adaptability HA: Snow Cloak
Movepool Additions: Lucario's + Hail, Triple Axle, Shadow Punch, Outrage, Wicked Blow
Niche: This Pokémon is now built to kinda last longer and hit harder. it can set up hail for the snow cloak evasion, or outrage for the tangled feet for a different evasion boost. it has wicked blow so at least it gets a better physical dark move as coverage (since the only good one it has is crunch)

The thought process behind all these is "The only way to keep someone away from blindly choosing power, its adding utility that helps in more scenarios as a option". Because both parental bond and adaptability boost offense by a ridiculous amount, reducing offense to a reasonable amount leaves us with very bulky pokemon. I decided to make kangaskhan closer to a wall and lucario a set-up sweeper. The gengar is not as logical, i just miss gen 6 days of using gengar as a amazing ttar partner with almost perfect defensive synergy.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Lucario
New Pokémon Name: Adamis (Adamant + Anubis)
Stats: 80 / 100 / 95 / 100 / 70 / 110
Typing:

Abilities: Adaptability, Competitive, Guts
Movepool Additions: + Bonemerang, Earth Power.
Niche: A fast set-up sweeper with great coverage and stats on both sides of the spectrum, Guts can be used over adaptability on physical sets and competitive in special sets for situational boosts, but adaptability is still the preferred ability.

This sub will lose Doom Desire If it wins.

Mega being Revolved: Mega Lucario
New Pokémon Name: Lucvator (Lupus [Wolf] + Salvator [Savior])
Stats: 80 | 110 | 80 | 115 | 80 | 90 (555)
Typing:

Abilities: Inner Focus | Justified | Adaptability (HA)
Movepool Additions: Iron Head, Knock Off, Doom Desire

Niche

It's just Lucario, but bulkier. Yeah, this one is boring. It just got better bulk, but Adaptability has a huge damage ouput with higher offenses, which I didn't feel comfortable with. Lucario with Eviolite might be bulkier, but Lucvator is no pushover, since as I said Adaptability is a really good ability and with Iron Head, Knock Off and Doom Desire, it can seperate itself from its prevo. There isn't much to say here, it's just Lucario with better bulk, a better ability and a few better options.

New Pokémon Name: Kylario
Stats: 75/120/105/105/70/80 (BST: 555)
Typing:

Abilities: Steadfast / Inner Focus | Adaptability (HA)
Movepool Additions:
Niche: Hopefully with the lowered speed this will not be too overbearing. Nuclear Close Combat and boosted Bullet Punch are pretty nice assets, though, and it has a better defensive presence now.

Instead of heading directly into slate 7, we will have a brief discussion phase on the current competitive impact these Pokémon have, capped off with 2 playtest tours to be held on Saturday! Dates will be revealed later, so look forward to that and start building!

Good luck submitters!

 

[Gyltia]

Gyltia, Gravity Monkey, ViZar

El Cadaver, ChoiceScarfed, The Damned

Gyltia, El Cadaver, Mygavolt

 

[Gravity Monkey]

Gengar: Gravity Monkey, I am the Impostor, The Damned
Khangaskan: Scoopapa, ViZar, The Damned
Lucario: Scoopapa, ViZar, Gravity Monkey

 

[ViZar]

Votes

1. Gyltia - Altergeist
2. Gravity Monkey - Dimster
3. ViZar - Phairtom

Votes

1. ViZar - Cumobone
2. Scoopapa - Matilla
3. I am the Imposter - Kangasgon

Votes

1. Gravity Monkey - Ricalcio
2. Scoopapa - Kylario
3. Gyltia - Lupwawet

 

[Inmundo]

El Cadaver, The Damned, The Main Mon
Mygavolt, I am the Impostor, El Cadaver
I am the Impostor, El Cadaver, Gravity Monkey

 

[G-Luke]

ViZar, Speny, Scoopapa

The Damned, I am the Imposter, Scoopapa

Scoopapa, Gravity Monkey, ViZar

 

[A Golden Waddle Dee]

- Gravity Monkey, I am the Impostor, ViZar
- I am the Impostor, The Damned, Mygavolt
- Scoopapa, Glytia, I am the Impostor

 

[Gravity Monkey]

- I am the Impostor, Gravity Monkey, ViZar
- I am the Impostor, The Damned, Mygavolt
- I am the Impostor, Scoopapa, Glytia

Your votes are currently breaking the rules:

If you want to vote for yourself now, it gets slightly more complicated. You can always keep voting for yourself as second, but you can change the order a bit, for as long as the number of self-votes equals 2x the number of submissions you made. Let's use some examples to make it more understandable:

Stallbreaker: Yoshiblaze, Lyd, Ludicrousity
Special Wall: Ludicrousity, Lyd, Yoshiblaze
Defensive Pivot: Ludicrousity, Lyd, Yoshiblaze

So this voting format is good, cuz' Lyd voted for himself as second three times, and when you add everything up, he gave himself 6 votes, which is fine, as it is exactly the number of submissions he made for the slate x2. However, say he liked his Stallbreaker submission a lot, and he really wants it to win, he can play around with his votes a little bit:

Stallbreaker: Lyd, Yoshiblaze, Ludicrousity
Special Wall: Ludicrousity, Lyd, Yoshiblaze
Defensive Pivot: Ludicrousity, Yoshiblaze, Lyd

So to make his Stallbreaker first vote, he moved his Defensive Pivot self-vote to last. Makes sense, right? And when you add up the votes, 3 + 2 + 1 = 6 which is exactly what he wants. Let's say that he likes his Special Wall and Defensive Pivot submissions more, and he didn't like his Stallbreaker submission too much. He can do this:

Stallbreaker: Yoshiblaze, Ludicrousity, G-Luke
Special Wall: Lyd, Ludicrousity, Yoshiblaze
Defensive Pivot: Lyd, Ludicrousity, Yoshiblaze

3 + 3 adds up to six, so he's good to that. Small note that this can't be done if he made no Stallbreaker submission because if that was the case, the number of submissions he made x2 would actually end up as 4, which isn't enough. Also, had he only made a single submission, he'd always have to self-vote as #2 or lower because making only one submission gives him only two self-vote points. We hope that was clear, if you had any trouble to understand this, feel free to PM anyone from the council and we'll explain it as best as we can.

 

[A Golden Waddle Dee]

Your votes are currently breaking the rules:

Ah shit, forgot about it, thanks for telling me!

 

[The Main Mon]

here are my votes,
Kangaskahn: The Main Mon, Gyltia, Speny
Gengar: ViZar, Gravity Monkey, The Main Mon
Lucario: Mygavolt, The Main Mon, El Cadaver

and I like how I put wicked blow for lucario and it didn’t get flagged

 

[Scoopapa]

Gengar: Gravity Monkey, ViZar, Gyltia
Kangaskhan: I am the Impostor, Scoopapa, Gyltia
Lucario: Scoopapa, Gravity Monkey, Gyltia

 

[Mygavolt]

Mygavolt, Tapler, ViZar

El Cadaver, The Damned, ViZar

Mygavolt, Speny, Scoopapa

 

[The Damned]

Ugh. This was the toughest vote yet given how easily just certain typing combinations with their STABs or even just one move could easily break any one of these mons, even after Doom Desire got excised. All three entries have someone "tied" for third that I ultimately had to put fourth and thus get rid of for this--shame. I also had to triple-check that you didn't submit anything this time, G-Luke, since I felt like I was overlooking it in my perpetual tiredness.


Gengar-Mega: Gyltia, Mygavolt, Choicescarfed
Kangaskhan-Mega: The Damned, El Cadaver, Gyltia
Lucario-Mega: El Cadaver, Gyltia, Scoopapa


I'll try to be to help playtest despite my notorious unreliability. I hope it goes well either way. Stay safe everyone.

 

[G-Luke]

Winners!

New Pokémon Name: Dimster
Stats: 70 / 65 / 70 / 130 / 85 / 110 (BST: 530)
Typing:

Abilities: Shadow Tag / Emergency Exit
Movepool Additions: Thunder Wave, Doom Desire, Flash Cannon, Steel Beam, Iron Head, Metal Sound
Niche: Was hard to find a niche for mister dim when Gengar is already pretty decent ngl. Decided to go with an unorthodox ability to make him something that could utilize emergency exit. With just enough speed to make progress in one turn against some stuff, he can serve as an unusual pivot that's for sure going to help you progress in your match thanks to TWave and Doom Desire.

Mega being Revolved: Kangaskhan-Mega
New Pokémon Name: Kangatwo (...feel the overflowing creativity) [EDIT: Getting rid of the "s" in "Kangastwo", especially if it's an alternate form now.]
Stats: 120 HP / 108 Atk / 81 Def / 30 SpA / 90 SpD / 91 Spe
Typing:

/

Abilities: Early Bird / Sap Sipper / Parental Bond (hidden ability)
Movepool Additions: Bulk Up, Encore, High Horsepower, Milk Drink, Spikes, Stealth Rock, Stomping Tantrum [EDIT: Encore and Milk Drink have been added.]
Movepool Subtractions: Drain Punch, Seismic Toss
Niche: A bulky mon with a good speed for one that also has a quite good STAB combination and can choose to shore up its defenses or health with either of its non-Parental Bond abilities. It would also be the best Sap Sipper in general most likely given that its new Ground typing makes it resist the Poison coverage that the majority of Powder users and Grass mons in general tend to cover; it also basically walls Rotom-Mow with it (and Facade), even though that's hardly that relevant. A bit difficult to make it want to completely give up Seismic Toss on Parental Bond (at least before we could excise Seismic Toss), but given that it can run Choice Band now to up its power, the amount of Attack is probably fine honestly, especially with STAB on Ground attacks too now.

New Pokémon Name: Kylario
Stats: 75/120/105/105/70/80 (BST: 555)
Typing:

Abilities: Steadfast / Inner Focus | Adaptability (HA)
Movepool Additions:
Niche: Hopefully with the lowered speed this will not be too overbearing. Nuclear Close Combat and boosted Bullet Punch are pretty nice assets, though, and it has a better defensive presence now.

As I said earlier, the next slate (has been decided) will be on delay, while we hold two playtest tours on Saturday! One at 2pm and another at 6pm -5 GMT. So if you miss one, you can catch the other, and you can also participate in both! The meta is currently playable on Dragon Heaven.

In the meantime, I implore contributors to share teams, sets, replays and general thoughts they have on the current Revv'd Megas and the metagame on a whole, as this will help us move forward in regards to any balancing or metagame developments that needs to take place. Good luck everyone!

 

[JojoBoss247]

In the meantime, I implore contributors to share teams, sets, replays and general thoughts they have on the current Revv'd Megas and the metagame on a whole, as this will help us move forward in regards to any balancing or metagame developments that needs to take place. Good luck everyone!

Most of the discussion is on the discord, but I'll start some here.

Gravity Monkey started this, and I added 4 more sets at the bottom.

https://pokepast.es/946fc731e75f237a

 

[Gravity Monkey]

Gonna drop some random pieces of thoughts about the mons


First mon that needs a rework. Not broken in the way most things are, more that it gives its user kind of an unfair advantage in having the opposing team at a constant -1 offense thanks to parting shot spam. There are ways to counter that strat, mainly dark types, but its definitely not a fun mon to face rn. If it were to me, id replace pshot with either u-turn or teleport and strength sap with a low bp recovery move like moonlight or just leave it with pain split.


We've talked about this one in length on discord, but yh Starietta is overtuned rn. 135/105/130 is nothing short of insane, and thats not counting aerilate boomburst, literally too much utility and it being faster than Lando. Def needs a nerf.


Havent seen much of it yet but its looking really good, especially with its DD set. We'll have to see how it goes.


One of my favorite mons from the bunch, I love how its basically a blissey with actual offensive presence. Im kind of exaggerating here since it def has a bit more weaknesses as a wall, but its a really cool addition to a meta i think.


Thing hits hard. I've seen some skeptics about sun, and even though there's no doubt that its still a fairly niche playstyle and that starietta kinda invalidates everything rn, this things still rocks imo.


Not sure how exactly useful this is but it felt kind of underwhelming to me. Probably should have given it just a little bit more utility.


Only seen those once or twice but all of those look like really good picks rn.

 

[JojoBoss247]

I gotta say, I really can't disagree with a thing Grav says.

First mon that needs a rework. Not broken in the way most things are, more that it gives its user kind of an unfair advantage in having the opposing team at a constant -1 offense thanks to parting shot spam. There are ways to counter that strat, mainly dark types, but its definitely not a fun mon to face rn. If it were to me, id replace pshot with either u-turn or teleport and strength sap with a low bp recovery move like moonlight or just leave it with pain split.

Agreed. It doesn't fit in well and relies too much on Prankster. Thing has poor physical defense and speed, too fast for TR, and too slow for HO or Scarf. I feel like the speed or defenses need an improvement.

Thing hits hard. I've seen some skeptics about sun, and even though there's no doubt that its still a fairly niche playstyle and that starietta kinda invalidates everything rn, this things still rocks imo.

That one lowkey is my favorite. I run a set of:

Houndread @ Choice Specs
Ability: Solar Power
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Overheat
- Dark Pulse
- Sludge Bomb

We've talked about this one in length on discord, but yh Starietta is overtuned rn. 135/105/130 is nothing short of insane, and thats not counting aerilate boomburst, literally too much utility and it being faster than Lando. Def needs a nerf.

I battled this thing before. You CAN'T knock this bxtch out. Maybe 95/105/115.

 

[The Damned]

Congratulations to both Gravity Monkey and Scoopapa for (also) winning.

I'll try to be on tomorrow despite somehow throwing my back and ribs out of whack yesterday, which has been...not great pain-wise, even for me. I would at the very least like to make sure both (!) of my entries that won aren't horrifically obnoxious. I'll probably show up for the latter tournament if I show up at all, but we'll see. I hope it goes well regardless, though now that I say that, I feel like I'm forgetting something....

Oh! I remember: Is Dimster meant to have been exempt from the Doom Desire comment, G-Luke? For the most part, I have no problem with that mon otherwise, but it still seeming to have Doom Desire was the only reason I didn't vote for it since I wasn't sure.

 

[G-Luke]

Congratulations to both Gravity Monkey and Scoopapa for (also) winning.

I'll try to be on tomorrow despite somehow throwing my back and ribs out of whack yesterday, which has been...not great pain-wise, even for me. I would at the very least like to make sure both (!) of my entries that won aren't horrifically obnoxious. I'll probably show up for the latter tournament if I show up at all, but we'll see. I hope it goes well regardless, though now that I say that, I feel like I'm forgetting something....

Oh! I remember: Is Dimster meant to have been exempt from the Doom Desire comment, G-Luke? For the most part, I have no problem with that mon otherwise, but it still seeming to have Doom Desire was the only reason I didn't vote for it since I wasn't sure.

Its not a Lucario Mega.

 

[G-Luke]

The first playtesting Tour is live NOW! Hop on over to https://dragonheaven.herokuapp.com/#tournaments to join!