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You know, maybe YanMega can get some sort of Sp. Atk ver. Moxie? That might have the potential to be completely broken, though.

(at least bug/dragon is walled to hell and back by fairies, especially Togekiss/M-Mawile)

Also, I'll be voting once I get to the computer.
 
Mega Yanmega should just get Tinted Lens. He can get a Speed Boost boost or two in his normal form, and then Mega Evolve to become a fast sweeper. He could possibly get Calm Mind as a boosting move, since Quiver Dance would be a bit OP in this scenario. I can see him becoming Dragon / Bug, and of course get Dragon Pulse in that case.
 
The thing I like about Gliscor is that it is one of those already OU viable pokemon where we don't want to overshadow it's base form, but in this case we practically can't as poison heal doesn't really work on megas. Personally I think an offensive mega gliscor would be cool, he already receives Hyper Cutter and tbh that's all his mega would really need. He could become a neat Swords Dance sweeper with strong dual STAB that is immune to Intimidate.

I really want Mega Yanmega to be extremely strong because Yanmega is freaking awesome. I quite like the ideas floating around such as Bug / Dragon and keeping tinted lens. As Valmanway stated, using Speed Boost in base form and getting a couple boosts before mega evolving is a really cool niche. As far as Bug / Dragon being walled by fairies, with Tinted Lens I can't really see the problem problem. Quiver Dance would be epic too but I think we would need to be careful to not make it too strong.

As for Glaceon Refrigerate is definitely the way to go. "By controlling its body heat, it can freeze the atmosphere around it to make a diamond-dust flurry". Or maybe Snow Warning?

I don't really give a fk what we do to Pory.
 
What I have in mind for Pory is a Normal/Ghost typing signified by it glitching in and out of the world. That way, Pory is completely immune to the Ghost/Fighting combo, and have only a weakness to Dark while resisting Poison and Bug. Pretty good tradeoff, I think.
 
I could see Gliscor working as a defensive Sharp Claws mon. As I've tried in other slates, much to my dismay of nobody understanding my logic, Sharp Claws and abilities like it allow mons to still it hard while placing EVs in defensive stats instead of offensive ones.

The only problem I is that Gliscor lacks powerful contact STAB and Acrobatics is not even an option.
 
I think i have an idea of Gliscor going offensive for once. Remember my Mega Gliscor posted a few [osts after acestriker stopped submissions? Well i'm bringing it back anyways.
 
Porygon-Z with Protean would be quite interesting, as it has a fairly wide movepool with good options to use, such as Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Dark Pulse, and Psyshock, and also has interesting options in Recover and Nasty Plot, so the latter two with BoltBeam coverage might be all it needs. Statwise, it could be a speedy attacker, but I'm thinking more along the lines of a bulky hard hitter.
 
What if porygon-z got download? It makes sense flavourwise, and you would essentially get a nasty plot/swords dance boost.
 
Valmanway said:
Porygon-Z with Protean would be quite interesting, as it has a fairly wide movepool with good options to use, such as Ice Beam, Thunderbolt, Dark Pulse, and Psyshock, and also has interesting options in Recover and Nasty Plot, so the latter two with BoltBeam coverage might be all it needs. Statwise, it could be a speedy attacker, but I'm thinking more along the lines of a bulky hard hitter.
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The problem is can we do it without making Porygon-Z broken. As I mentioned before, my original Mega Mew was a Protean abuser but 130/130/130 offenses were too scary considering it gets Swords Dance and Nasty Plot. Then again, Porygon-Z won't be as broken as Mew in general is.
 
Welp, it's been long enough. I'm heading out and won't be paying much attention to this until tomorrow so let's just say it's done for now



Now, the time for the winners!

Lumineon:
Tie between Mew King and Dilasc

Carnivine:
Mczatar

Lickilicky:
nightsitter

Togekiss:
Valmanway



Like last time, until midnight EST tonight (which is in like 2 hours), you can submit any votes you didn't and this may be updated.

BUT! It's time for the next slate: Yanmega, Glaceon, Gliscor, and Porygon-Z
 
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Mega Porygon-Z

Normal ----> Normal
Adaptability / Download / Analytic ----> Protean
85 / 80 / 70 / 135 / 70 / 90 (535) ----> 85 / 100 (+20) / 90 (+20) / 185 (+50) / 90 (+20) / 80 (-10) (635)
New Moves: none

Mega Porygon-Z has become quite the fearsome force to be reckoned with now, and it's pretty easy to see how. With Protean making all of its attacks backed by STAB, it can dismantle opponents with STAB BoltBeam coverage, and can use the last two moveslots for other options such as Recover and Nasty Plot. In fact, it's said STAB BoltBeam coverage that lets him even have the luxury of running two extra moveslots in the first place, and trust me, having two free moveslots that don't mandatorily have to have a specific move is one of the best feelings ever.
 
Valmanway said:
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Mega Porygon-Z

Normal ----> Normal
Adaptability / Download / Analytic ----> Protean
85 / 80 / 70 / 135 / 70 / 90 (535) ----> 85 / 100 (+20) / 90 (+20) / 185 (+50) / 90 (+20) / 80 (-10) (635)
New Moves: none

Mega Porygon-Z has become quite the fearsome force to be reckoned with now, and it's pretty easy to see how. With Protean making all of its attacks backed by STAB, it can dismantle opponents with STAB BoltBeam coverage, and can use the last two moveslots for other options such as Recover and Nasty Plot. In fact, it's said STAB BoltBeam coverage that lets him even have the luxury of running two extra moveslots in the first place, and trust me, having two free moveslots that don't mandatorily have to have a specific move is one of the best feelings ever.
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This is a nice idea and I can see porygon getting protean, but I think this May be overpowered if he gets a special download boost and then mega evolve D:
I don't want to be there when it happens...
 
Mczatar said:
This is a nice idea and I can see porygon getting protean, but I think this May be overpowered if he gets a special download boost and then mega evolve D:
I don't want to be there when it happens...
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Most Pokemon move their remaining 4 EVs into Special Defense to avoid those with Download from getting a Special Attack boost, so that shouldn't be a constant problem.
 
Glaceon

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Ice → Ice


Snow Cloak/Ice Body(hidden) → Snow Warning


65/60/110/130/95/60 (525) → 65/70(+10)/125(+15)/160(+30)/120(+25)/80(+20)


With 100% accurate Blizzards thanks to Snow Warning and monsterous base 160 SpA., M-Glaceon hits like an absolute truck. It also has solid mixed 65/125/120 bulk which helps make up for its horrible defensive typing and mediocre speed. M-Glaceon still has obvious flaws due to its aforementioned ice typing and rather low 80 base speed along with an incredibly shallow movepool but it's much better than its regular form that resides deep in the depths of NU.



Gliscor

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Ground/Flying → Ground/Flying


Hyper Cutter/Sand Veil/Poison Heal → Aerilate


75/95/125/45/75/95 (510) → 75/140(+45)/140(+15)/55(+10)/90(+15)/110(+15) (610)


With great base 110 Speed, STAB Quick Attack and Earthquake, M-Gliscor becomes much more offensively based than its usual Toxic stalling self its regular form is.



Porygon-Z

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Normal → Normal/Electric


Adaptability/Download/Analytic(Hidden) → Adaptability


85/80/70/135/75/90 (535) → 85/90(+10)/85(+15)/170(+35)/90(+15)/115(+25)


Porygon-Z like its evolution chain is based of an artificial 3D bird, therefore I decided that a secondary electric typing would make some sense. With incredible base 170 SpA. and fantastic base 115 speed and Adaptability boosted Thunder plus access to Nasty Plot, M-Porygon-Z annihilates nearly everything that the opponent can throw at it.


Yanmega

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Bug/Flying → Bug/Flying


Speed Boost/Tinted Lens/Frisk(hidden) → Speed Boost


86/76/86/116/56/95 (515) → 86/89(+13)/100(+14)/140(+24)/80(+24)/120(+25)
 
Type: Bug/Flying -> Bug/Flying
Ability: Speed Boost/Tinted Lens/Frisk -> Draconic Spirit (This Pokemon carries an additional Dragon-typing that acts both as an extra STAB and an extra defensive type)
New Moves: Dragon Pulse, Dragon Claw, Aura Sphere

HP: 86 -> 86
Atk: 76 -> 90 (+14)
Def: 86 -> 96 (+10)
SpA: 116 -> 152 (+36)
SpD: 56 -> 76 (+20)
Spe: 95 -> 115 (+20)

Flavor Concept: It's a Dragonfly, so it gets all them moves and the ability. Aura Sphere because of its strong Draconic Spirit.

Competitive Concept: Get a few Speed Boosts, mega evolve, and sweep with triple-STAB coverage. It only gets the Speed Boosts once, so it's recommended to use Mega Yanmega strictly as a late-game sweeper once Rocks are removed. It still fears priority and has relatively poor coverage.

Pro Tips: Protect is usually unnecessary; the best strategy is to come in on a slower, weakened opponent and no SR. That way you can net the kill, accumulate a boost, and Mega evolve with enough speed to outpace the entire unboosted metagame and all viable scarfmons.
Type: Ice -> Ice
Ability: Snow Cloak/Ice Body -> Fur Coat
New Moves: None

HP: 65 -> 65
Atk: 60 -> 120 (+60)
Def: 110 -> 120 (+10)
SpA: 130 -> 150 (+20)
SpD: 95 -> 105 (+10)
Spe: 65 -> 65

Flavor Concept: Glaceon grows a thick coat for the winter, which shields him from half of all physical damage.

Competitive Concept: Physical wall with poor defensive typing but excellent utility as a cleric. It can also deal hefty damage with a powerful STAB Ice Beam and now-decent Ice Shard. However, it's severely hampered by its lack of reliable recovery

Pro Tips: Always use full HP investment. Don't just throw Mega Glaceon on a team without a full understanding of what you want its role to be.
Type: Ground/Flying -> Ground/Poison
Ability: Hyper Cutter/Sand Veil/Poison Heal -> Grounded (When this Pokemon is in play, all immunities to Ground-type moves are removed)
New Moves: None

HP: 75 -> 75
Atk: 95 -> 120 (+25)
Def: 125 -> 140 (+15)
SpA: 45 -> 70 (+25)
SpD: 75 -> 100 (+25)
Spe: 95 -> 105 (+10)

Flavor Concept: Mega Gliscor decides to bring all Pokemon to the ground with its newfound strength. Poison-type is added because it's a scorpion.

Competitive Concept: Fast Defogger with phenomenal one-move coverage. Mega Gliscor can utilize a set of Defog/Roost/EQ/??? with Taunt, Ice Fang, Fire Fang, Poison Jab, U-Turn, or SD to fill in the blank.

Pro Tips: Its EVs are very malleable. Depending on your team's needs, you can invest in any of HP, Atk, Def, SpD, and Spe.
Type: Normal -> Normal/Electric
Ability: Levitate
New Moves: None

HP: 85 -> 85
Atk: 80 -> 95 (+15)
Def: 70 -> 100 (+30)
SpA: 125 -> 160 (+35)
SpD: 75 -> 115 (+40)
Spe: 90 -> 70 (-20)

Flavor Concept: Electric because it's computer-based, and Levitate because it's always shown levitating. Pretty straightforward.

Competitive Concept: Basically a combination of P2's bulk and PZ's power. BoltBeam should form the crux of most sets, but the third and fourth moves are toss-ups among NP, Tri-Attack, and Recover.

Pro Tips: Suck my duck, Landorus.
 
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Mega Porygon-Z
Normal ----> Normal
Adaptability / Download / Analytic ----> Trace
85 / 80 / 70 / 135 / 70 / 90 (535) ----> 85 / 80 / 110 (+40) / 175 (+40) / 110 (+40) / 70 (-20) (635)


Porygon Z is fixed to fall more in line with what he once was: the ultimate tracer! Back to the glory of P2, backed by an unholy SpAtk, MegaZ hits hard and traces harder.

Tracing gets you some nice stuff from nice things, such as free Intimidates, Regenerates and anything defensive. Switch in on a Sap Sipping Grass type or a Water Absorbing Water type. There's a deceptive level of tankiness here.


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Bug/Flying → Bug/Dragon


Speed Boost/Tinted Lens/Frisk(hidden) → Tinted Lense


86/76/86/116/56/95 (515)>>>86/77(+1)/105(+19)/150(+34)/80(+24)/117(+22)

New Moves: Quiver Dance, Dragon Pulse, Heatwave

Concept: After surviving long enough to get a few Speed Boosts, mega up and start STABing things. This would've been amazing if Fairies didn't exist, and bug resistant dual combos do exist if paired with Steel, Fire, Fight, Ghost, Poison, or Flying. Oddly enough, 3 of those don't exist without going mega, but a coverage move can easily fix the issue: Heatwave, Giga Drain or Air Slash add the needed coverage for type coverage to neutrally hit all 171 type combos, and it's both fast and hard hitting with Quiver Dance... but it's frail. Not only does it not have room for Roost with a coverage and boost move, it might need to switch out a few times. Doing so makes its weak to Stealth Rocks. All hell breaks loose once you can keep it in, but until then, ask god for help, because Arceus...

+1 252+ SpA Tinted Lens Yanmega Bug Buzz vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Arceus-Fairy: 350-414 (78.8 - 93.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

is dead!
 
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Mega Yanmega

Bug / Flying ----> Bug / Dragon
Speed Boost / Tinted Lens / Frisk ----> Tinted Lens
86 / 76 / 86 / 116 / 56 / 95 (515) ----> 86 / 76 / 106 (+20) / 146 (+30) / 96 (+40) / 105 (+10) (615)
New Moves: Dragon Pulse and Earth Power

Well, this is Mega Yanmega, the Pokemon that had jokes told behind his back regarding if he got a Mega Evolution, and now that he finally has it, he strikes with a vengeance. Using Mega Yanmega is quite simple; first, get a turn or two for Speed Boost to do its thing, and then Mega Evolve so he can sweep with Tinted Lens. Dragon Pulse is of course given to him so he has a new STAB attack to throw around, and Earth Power is there to hit Steel-types such as Mega Mawile and Aegislash if need be. No stat boosting move such as Quiver Dance was added as a means of balancing Mega Yanmega, since he's hitting most things "neutrally" thanks to Tinted Lens, so extra power probably isn't necessary.
 
Mega Glaceon

Type: Ice -> Ice
Ability: Snow Cloak/Ice Body -> Icicle Coat *An abilty that works like Iron Barbs (same damage and only contact moves) and also has a 10% chance of freezing targets!

HP: 65 -> 65
Atk: 60 -> 80
Def: 110 -> 160
SpA: 130 -> 150
SpD: 95 -> 105
Spe: 65 -> 65

Dex says its body (fur) can become icicle :0


Type: Bug/Flying -> Bug/Dragon
Ability: Speed Boost/Tinted Lens/Frisk -> Draco Scale *Fire/Water/Elect/Grass moves due half damage.
New Moves: Dragon Pulse

HP: 86 -> 86
Atk: 76 -> 91
Def: 86 -> 111
SpA: 116 -> 141
SpD: 56 -> 76
Spe: 95 -> 110

Practically its harden skin (dragon scales) harden its resistance defenses. So in other words.....

Weak to: Rock / Flying / Fairy / Ice
Resist x2: Fire / Ground / Fighting
Resist x4: Water / Elect
Resist x8: Grass
 
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Mega Gliscor
Ground / Flying ----> Ground / Flying
Hyper Cutter / Sand Veil / Poison Point ----> Landscaper, field effect moves such as Sandstorm and Tailwind have double the duration time.
75 / 95 / 125 / 45 / 75 / 95 (510) ----> 75 / 125 (+30) / 155 (+30) / 45 / 115 (+40) / 95
New Moves: none

Mega Gliscor is a very supportive teammate to have, and a very, very annoying foe to face. First, his ability Landscaper allows moves such as Tailwind and Sandstorm to last twice as long as they usually do, so Tailwind will last 8 turns, and Sandstorm will last 10 turns, which is quite intimidating, considering it isn't that hard to take a hit and just set up. Second, Mega Gliscor can abuse the field effect he uses, so he can sweep with Tailwind up thanks to a decent 125 base Attack. And third, he still has a rather impressive defensive presence, as well as a healing option in Roost to keep his health up.
 
Mega Gliscor
Ground / Flying ----> Ground / Flying
Hyper Cutter / Sand Veil / Poison Point ----> Stinger Missile (Iron Barbs/Rough Skin for non-contact moves)
75 / 95 / 125 / 45 / 75 / 95 (510) ----> 75/130(+35)/145(+20)/45/115(+40)/100(+5)
New Moves: Coil, Poison Fang, Clear Smog

Concept: Mega Gliscor is sturdy, defensive and wants to disuade your use of Special Attacks to kill it. Scalding me from low health? Think again, NP sweeper, it's a 1 for 1 worthy trade. That or I'll just Clear Smog you if I can.

Even still, Coiling your newly elongated tail around you can give you further bulk and power. Gliscor taps into his Scorpion powers a bit more here, and his kit is well suited for attrition with Toxic Teeth and his new ability.
 
Mega Yanmega
Typing: Bug/Flying ----> Bug/Dragon
Abilities: Speed Boost/Tinted Lens/Frisk ----> Hubris (Special-based clone of Moxie)
BST: 86/76/86/116/56/95 ----> 86/82/89/171/60/127
New Moves: Dragon Pulse

YanMega functions as thus: Stall for speed boost, mega evolve and kill off something, grab boost from Hubris, starts sweeping. with 171/127 stats, this thing can wreck teams. YanMega is pretty frail though, and can be revenge killed by Ice Shard or Aerilate Quick Attack or pretty much all kind of Super Effective priority. It also get walled to hell and back by Fairies, especially Togekiss and Mega Mawile, which cannot be covered with a single coverage move.

Mega Porygon-Z
Typing: Normal ----> Normal/Ghost
Abilities: Adaptability/Download/Analytic ----> Adaptability
BST: 85/80/70/135/75/90 ----> 85/130/60/165/80/115
New Moves: Shadow Claw, Superpower, Work Up

MegaPory's glitching got amplified by the mega stone, and now it can't stop fading in and out of the virtual plane. It gains mixed attacking power and the moves to do so, and got an additional ghost typing as well, making it immune to the once-perfect Ghost-Fighting coverage. However, MegaPory is pretty frail on the physical side, which means it'll most likely than not get OHKOed by Sucker Punches. Other than that, MegaPory also has only Work Up and Sharpen(lol) for set-up, and another MegaPory will also wall physical variant, well, unless you pack Foul Play or something...
 
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Mega Gliscor
Type: Ground / Flying --> Ground / Flying
Abilities: Hyper Cutter / Sand Veil / Poison Heal --> Tough Claws
Hp: 75 --> 75 ( +0 )
Attack: 95 --> 135 ( +40 )
Defense: 125 --> 140 ( +15 )
Sp. Att: 45 --> 45 ( +0 )
Sp. Def: 75 --> 95 ( +20 )
Speed: 95 --> 120 ( +25 )
Moves: Dragon Claw / Shadow Claw

So this Gliscor takes a more offensive approach than the usual Gliscor. On it's own Gliscor was already really good so the mega is more a different way to play Gliscor rather than a better version of normal Gliscor. Tough Claws is the ability here because just look at those hand claw things they are pretty huge. Tough Claws also boosts the power of many of Gliscor's moves including Aerial Ace, Thunder Fang, Ice Fang and X Scissor making them all viable options. With Tough Claws and the attack boost Gliscor will have the exact same power as Mega Aerodactyl. However unlike Aerodactyl Gliscor trades is speed for more staying power and a better typing. The stats give Gliscor a big boost to it's attack and speed while giving some smaller boosts to it's defenses. The base 120 speed may end up broken but it can always be changed. Lastly the new moves are there just because they are claw based moves and Mega Gliscor has Tough Claws. The two moves on it's own aren't useless either and may find some niches.

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Mega Yanmega
Type: Bug / Flying --> Bug / Dragon
Abilities: Speed Boost / Tinted Lens / Frisk --> Adaptability
Hp: 86 --> 86 ( +0 )
Attack: 76 --> 96 ( +20 )
Defense: 86 --> 86 ( + 0 )
Sp. Att: 116 --> 156 ( +40 )
Sp. Def: 56 --> 66 ( +10 )
Speed: 95 --> 125 ( +30 )
Moves: Dragon Pulse / Mega Drain

Yanmega is freaking awesome I like it let's mega evolve it. So like many other Mega Yanmega entries this one is also Bug / Dragon because it's literally a dragonfly. However unlike other's this one has Adaptability as it's main ability. I didn't want to give it one of it's original abilities just for the sake of being different. But with Adaptibility Yanmega will have just about the strongest STAB moves in the entire game which is pretty crazy. The stats give a huge boost into attack and speed while the rest was added to attack and special defense. With this stat spread Yanmega has one of the highest special attack stats there is and a great speed similar to Mega Alakazam. As for new moves it gets Dragon Pulse just to have a good new STAB move to show off the Dragon typing and Mega Drain just because Mega Yanmega used Mega Drain which sounds funny. While this Yanmega may look broken it will still have it's fair share of flaws. It still has the 4x Stealth Rock weakness before mega evolving which makes switching it in rather difficult. It's defenses are still only average which means powerful priority like Mega Absol's Sucker Punch and Mamoswine his Ice Shard will take it down without much trouble. Lastly Mega Yanmega is completely walled by Steel types which is also troublesome. I purposefully didn't give it any new coverage moves for Steel types because with them he might end up being broken.
 
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