Vampiric Blade is only activated on contact moves. Regardless, I'd just give them both Soul Burner and call it something less Fire-related like "Spirit Absorb"
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Also nearly identical to my submission, except mine has 5 more points in Attack and 5 less in Special Attack (I wanted to stop short of giving Mega Chandelure higher Special Attack than Mega Mewtwo Y) and a very similar but less powerful ability that only heals after a KO rather than after any damage (pokedex: "being consumed in Chandelure's flame burns up the spirit, leaving the body behind." To me that sounds more like Chandelure has to claim a victim first before doing the whole soul absorb-y thing). Great minds think alike I suppose :D
Oops, sorry, I only skimmed the previous entries, we both even used Azumarill for our examples :<
I'll swap some stats around to differentiate them a bit more.
Yeah, I saw vampiric blade but it was contact only, as was said above. I don't see why only contact moves should heal for Maegi (I haven't seen the stat spread yet though...), so sharing a more flavoursome ability for both should be ok.
Since it doesn't change forms, it uses Shield form's stats as a base, and the end result is a stat spread of 60/100/150/100/150/60. Most of Aegislash's attacks make contact - Shadow Sneak, Sacred Sword, Shadow Claw, and Iron Head. The only common move that doesn't activate its ability is Shadow Ball.
I can't see it being an issue then, and I think that mega aegi could definitely use a little boost tbh.
I shifted some points from spdef to speed and spattk. 85 doesn't really outspeed anything currently relevant in OU that 80 doesn't, besides Gyarados and Dragonite, and 200 spattk looks ridiculous but there's no real difference from 195. Should separate our entries a little bit :<
I shifted some points from spdef to speed and spattk. 85 doesn't really outspeed anything currently relevant in OU that 80 doesn't, besides Gyarados and Dragonite, and 200 spattk looks ridiculous but there's no real difference from 195. Should separate our entries a little bit :<
I don't think we should be giving Chandelure more Special Attack than Mega Mewtwo Y...
I really don't see how it matters, Rampardos has plenty more attack than most legendaries.
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Beheeyem
Type: Psychic-->Psychic
Ability: Synchronize/Telepathy/Analytic-->Analytic
Stats: 75/75/75/125/95/40-->75/75/115/175/125/20
Movepool: +none
Beartic
Type: Ice-->Ice/Water
Ability: Snow Cloak/Swift Swim-->Sheer Force
Stats: 95/110/80/70/80/50-->95/150/80/120/80/60
Movepool: +Waterfall +Thunder Punch +Fire Punch
Beheeyem
Type: Psychic-->Psychic
Ability: Synchronize/Telepathy/Analytic-->Analytic
Stats: 75/75/75/125/95/40-->75/75/115/175/125/20
Movepool: +none
Beartic
Type: Ice-->Ice/Water
Ability: Snow Cloak/Swift Swim-->Sheer Force
Stats: 95/110/80/70/80/50-->95/150/80/120/80/60
Movepool: +Waterfall +Thunder Punch +Fire Punch
Rampados is held back by a worse typing, and doesn't have the highest attack in the game. Mega Mewtwo Y has the highest Sepcial Attack in the game, going higher than that is pretty clearly overkill.
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Mega Beheeyem
Psychic ---> Psychic / Fairy
Telepathy / Synchronise / Analytic ---> Wonder Room (Don't have time to think of a name). Uses Wonder Room upon switch in or mega evolve that lasts until switch out, fainting, or Wonder Room is used again to reverse the effect.
75/75/75/125/95/40 ---> 75/75/100/165/120/50
New Moves: Dazzling Gleam.
The idea here is a strong Calm Mind user. With wonder room's effect up Beheeyem has strong Def so it doesn't have to worry about getting hit by physical moves while its boosting SpD. Fairy typing helps by adding a secondary STAB and removing that Dark type weakness. I find that Dazzling Gleam makes more sense than Moon blast because of dem flashy light things on its fingers.
Mega Beheeyem
Type: Psychic --> Psychic/Electric
Ability: Telepathy/Synchronize/Analytic --> Levitate
Stats: 75/75/75/125/95/40 --> 75/75/85/150/110/90
New Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam
For Mega Beheeyem, I decided to try to base it a bit of a UFO. Now, I decided to get a bit of inspiration of the UFO 2 enemy from the Pokestar Studios in BW2. Mega Beheeyem got its Electric type, its ability, and its new Moves from this new enemy. This actually gives it a nice amount of help. It gets no new weaknesses from its new type and it gives it a nice flying resistance. Flamethrower gives it some nice coverage and BoltBeam coverage is also really nice, especially when you get STAB on one of the moves. Combined with a nice base 150 poke, it becomes pretty nice. Its Speed is also nolonger a problem since it can now outspeed a good amount of defensive threats.
Mega Chandelure
Type: Same
Ability: Flash Fire/Flame Body/Infiltrator --> Heat Seek (Fire type moves never miss)
Stats: 60/55/90/145/90/80 --> 60/70/120/170/105/95
Mega Chandelure is a nice abuser of the move Inferno. It can really put this move to use. Its got a nice special attack stat of 170 to let it hit pokes rather hard and its got a decent speed to make sure it can hit certain pokes, espically defensive oriented ones. Mega Chandelure can also act as a physically oriented defensive pokemon. Its got Pain Split to heal it up and Inferno can be really useful to burning certain pokemon so it can take less damage from a physical attack.
Mega Beartic
Typing: Ice --> Ice/Fighting
Ability: Snow Cloak/Swift Swim --> Winter Shield (Immune to Increased priority moves)
Stats: 95/110/80/70/80/50 --> 95/145/95/90/95/85
New Moves: Drain Punch
Mega Beartic is a bulky attackerr first and foremost. Its new typing gives it a stealth rock neutrality and a nice resistance to Dark. Its got a nice ability in Winter Sheild which lets it take on Talonflame to a certain degree with its Super Effective Aqua Jet. It can heal itself with its Drain Punch and it can do a really nice amount of damage with Superpower. Icicle Crash lets it attack and deal a good amount of damage to most Dragon Types. Its got a somewhat good speed tier too, being able to do things such as outspeed Adamant Excadrill and hit it with a SE move.
Type: Psychic --> Psychic/Electric
Ability: Telepathy/Synchronize/Analytic --> Levitate
Stats: 75/75/75/125/95/40 --> 75/75/85/150/110/90
New Moves: Flamethrower, Ice Beam
For Mega Beheeyem, I decided to try to base it a bit of a UFO. Now, I decided to get a bit of inspiration of the UFO 2 enemy from the Pokestar Studios in BW2. Mega Beheeyem got its Electric type, its ability, and its new Moves from this new enemy. This actually gives it a nice amount of help. It gets no new weaknesses from its new type and it gives it a nice flying resistance. Flamethrower gives it some nice coverage and BoltBeam coverage is also really nice, especially when you get STAB on one of the moves. Combined with a nice base 150 poke, it becomes pretty nice. Its Speed is also nolonger a problem since it can now outspeed a good amount of defensive threats.
Mega Chandelure
Type: Same
Ability: Flash Fire/Flame Body/Infiltrator --> Heat Seek (Fire type moves never miss)
Stats: 60/55/90/145/90/80 --> 60/70/120/170/105/95
Mega Chandelure is a nice abuser of the move Inferno. It can really put this move to use. Its got a nice special attack stat of 170 to let it hit pokes rather hard and its got a decent speed to make sure it can hit certain pokes, espically defensive oriented ones. Mega Chandelure can also act as a physically oriented defensive pokemon. Its got Pain Split to heal it up and Inferno can be really useful to burning certain pokemon so it can take less damage from a physical attack.
Mega Beartic
Typing: Ice --> Ice/Fighting
Ability: Snow Cloak/Swift Swim --> Winter Shield (Immune to Increased priority moves)
Stats: 95/110/80/70/80/50 --> 95/145/95/90/95/85
New Moves: Drain Punch
Mega Beartic is a bulky attackerr first and foremost. Its new typing gives it a stealth rock neutrality and a nice resistance to Dark. Its got a nice ability in Winter Sheild which lets it take on Talonflame to a certain degree with its Super Effective Aqua Jet. It can heal itself with its Drain Punch and it can do a really nice amount of damage with Superpower. Icicle Crash lets it attack and deal a good amount of damage to most Dragon Types. Its got a somewhat good speed tier too, being able to do things such as outspeed Adamant Excadrill and hit it with a SE move.
So what makes it Fairy all of a sudden?
Mega Beheeyem
Psychic ---> Psychic / Fairy
Telepathy / Synchronise / Analytic ---> Wonder Room (Don't have time to think of a name). Uses Wonder Room upon switch in or mega evolve that lasts until switch out, fainting, or Wonder Room is used again to reverse the effect.
75/75/75/125/95/40 ---> 75/75/100/165/120/50
New Moves: Dazzling Gleam.
The idea here is a strong Calm Mind user. With wonder room's effect up Beheeyem has strong Def so it doesn't have to worry about getting hit by physical moves while its boosting SpD. Fairy typing helps by adding a secondary STAB and removing that Dark type weakness. I find that Dazzling Gleam makes more sense than Moon blast because of dem flashy light things on its fingers.
I also did Fairy; the fay are commonly associated with the moon and stars, as reflected by Clefable. Also, while it's primarily an alien, it also resembles a gremlin to me.
Because it's Psychic type, and giving pure Psychic types a secondary Fairy typing is as time-honored a tradition as giving a Pokemon with a <60 BP STAB move Technician or doubly improving a Pokemon with <40 base Speed by removing Speed points to get even more than 100 points to add to its relevant stats, even though the only Mega Evolution thus far to lose points in its lowest stat was Mega Mewtwo Y's Defense - and that was to make sure it wasn't too powerful for Ubers.
Except that according to Serebi, Mega Sableye loses speed:
http://www.serebii.net/omegarubyalphasapphire/megaevolutions.shtml
And Speed ties for HP for its lowest stat.
It's cute and all when you're snarky, but it sorta falls flat when you're wrong.
Fairy's a relatively broad type,and the only real connections it has are:
-the moon (Moonblast, Clefable)
-mischief (Disarming Voice, Klefki, Whimsicott, Mawile) <--the big one
-cuteness (Charm, Swirlix, Dedenne)
-emotions (Togekiss, Gardevoir, Sylveon) <--the other big one
-being an actual fairy (Florges)
Essentially, the retypings GF made pulled Pokemon from other types that fit one of these 5 criteria (notably the criteria seem to combine traits of Normal, Psychic, and Dark types); I'm going to go ahead and say this with a grain of salt, but it's theoretically justifiable to make a Pokemon Fairy-type if it meets at least one of these criteria. Now, I trust that people will exercise restraint when dealing with new types, and not just add one just to add one, but just in case, I suggest that if the only criteria the Pokemon meets is "the moon" or "cuteness", perhaps Fairy-type isn't the best idea (one of those in combination with another, however, I would agree to be fair game).
Beheeyem does indeed have a strong connection to space, but connecting it to the moon is a bit of a stretch. GF has done more extreme things, however. IMO, Fairy-type Beheeyem is fine, as aliens do have legends regarding them being troublesome and mischevious, so perhaps that in tandem with the whole space thing makes it more plausible.
-the moon (Moonblast, Clefable)
-mischief (Disarming Voice, Klefki, Whimsicott, Mawile) <--the big one
-cuteness (Charm, Swirlix, Dedenne)
-emotions (Togekiss, Gardevoir, Sylveon) <--the other big one
-being an actual fairy (Florges)
Essentially, the retypings GF made pulled Pokemon from other types that fit one of these 5 criteria (notably the criteria seem to combine traits of Normal, Psychic, and Dark types); I'm going to go ahead and say this with a grain of salt, but it's theoretically justifiable to make a Pokemon Fairy-type if it meets at least one of these criteria. Now, I trust that people will exercise restraint when dealing with new types, and not just add one just to add one, but just in case, I suggest that if the only criteria the Pokemon meets is "the moon" or "cuteness", perhaps Fairy-type isn't the best idea (one of those in combination with another, however, I would agree to be fair game).
Beheeyem does indeed have a strong connection to space, but connecting it to the moon is a bit of a stretch. GF has done more extreme things, however. IMO, Fairy-type Beheeyem is fine, as aliens do have legends regarding them being troublesome and mischevious, so perhaps that in tandem with the whole space thing makes it more plausible.
Can we please chill with the hostility, guys? At least be constructive if you're going to correct one another. But I do agree with GG Unit that we can't just lower something with base 40 speed to base 5 or 10. It gets a bit silly after a while.
Particularly when that decrease is actually an increase thanks to Trick Room.
I think the commonness of stat-lowering, though, is inevitable when you're trying to make pokemon with much lower BSTs in the same running as existing megas. The only existing megas with base forms under 500 BST are Mawile, Banette, and Abomasnow. Mawile gets Huge Power to boost attack, Banette gets Prankster to boost speed with certain moves, and Abomasnow, well, lowers speed by 30. And as I stated earlier, Sableye seems to be getting the same speed treatment.
If the only way to catch up is by adding pseudo-BST-improving abilities or lowering unused stats, then lowering unused stats is generally going to allow for more creative mons to emerge while retaining viability.
Okay. New development, people.
So if you recall, GG Unit recently said:
Well, here's how this bucket of maturity responded:
http://i.imgur.com/TQ6HycX.png
First off, how the heck does somebody accusing someone of being snarky not get that they're being tongue-in-cheek, exactly? Also, has it not been clear that I use figurative language and am tongue-in-cheek, like, all the time? Him saying Mega Mewtwo being the only mon to lose its lowest stat wasn't him being tongue-in-cheek, by the way, it was him making a claim, which I then pointed out was incorrect. I have no problem with snark, but you can't be snarky and also wrong.
But more importantly, who the hell even talks like this? This is incredibly insulting, not to me, but to people who actually live with autism. You don't get to cower behind inbox messages with this shit, champ. Everybody gets to see what kind of person you are now. Way to go!
Sorry if y'all think this is childish of me, but this cowardly personal attack shit really grinds my gears, particularly when the insulter claims vast intellectual prowess directly after making a claim that's objectively incorrect. My bad for disagreeing with you about a pokemon game.
Shame on you.
EDIT: This is the last I'm talking about this on this thread, by the way, whoever wants to rebuttal can go right ahead and have the last word so we can move on.
So if you recall, GG Unit recently said:
To which I replied that, well actually, Mega Sableye's lowest stat was lowered, meaning he's wrong, and then I made a snarky comment about him being snarky and also wrong.
Well, here's how this bucket of maturity responded:
http://i.imgur.com/TQ6HycX.png
First off, how the heck does somebody accusing someone of being snarky not get that they're being tongue-in-cheek, exactly? Also, has it not been clear that I use figurative language and am tongue-in-cheek, like, all the time? Him saying Mega Mewtwo being the only mon to lose its lowest stat wasn't him being tongue-in-cheek, by the way, it was him making a claim, which I then pointed out was incorrect. I have no problem with snark, but you can't be snarky and also wrong.
But more importantly, who the hell even talks like this? This is incredibly insulting, not to me, but to people who actually live with autism. You don't get to cower behind inbox messages with this shit, champ. Everybody gets to see what kind of person you are now. Way to go!
Sorry if y'all think this is childish of me, but this cowardly personal attack shit really grinds my gears, particularly when the insulter claims vast intellectual prowess directly after making a claim that's objectively incorrect. My bad for disagreeing with you about a pokemon game.
Shame on you.
EDIT: This is the last I'm talking about this on this thread, by the way, whoever wants to rebuttal can go right ahead and have the last word so we can move on.
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Or you can both agree to disagree. You're arguing over the internet over Pokemon that is intended for enjoyment. So the way I look at it you both lose and nobody is concerned in the end cause we're all trying to enjoy ourselves brainstorming ideas, not read over arguments that nobody will care about in the next 5 minutes or so. Just quit while you're ahead you guys.
I was busy concocting a love-filled reply to Mega Mantine's post when I was interrupted by this.
1. As someone with aspergurs syndrom, I'm sick and tired of people using the word autism synonymously to things such as stupid, idiotic, childish, etc.
2. While I'm not a mod nor do I have much of any authority in this thread, this better be the last post regarding all the acidity that's been going on lately. We really don't want this thread to get locked because everyone decided to go ape-shit over custom abilities.
While I personally prefer Ice/Water, there certainly is a lot to be said about Ice/Fighting offensively. And if it gets Revenge, that's two fun moves (along with Avalanche) that get STAB and take advantage of slowness and Beartic just asking to be attacked.
Still, in that case, Thick Fat is practically a necessity unless we boost its speed to acceptable levels, otherwise we're looking at a super slow mon that's weak to Fire, Fighting, Steel, Flying, Psychic, and Fairy. Doesn't matter how hard you can hit if you die before you throw a punch. The Flying weakness is the nail in the coffin for me, what with the incredible coverage Flying has in this meta.
(But at least it takes neutral SR damage!)
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