Suspect Mix and Mega Suspect #13: Rusted Sword

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The Mix and Mega Council has decided to suspect test Rusted Sword!

Rusted Sword is another ban that has stood for nearly two years now, but unlike the previous contenders this one is of a Mega Stone. At the time it was banned, Rusted Sword was a premier offensive threat; not only did it give the incredibly useful Steel typing to any Pokemon that ran it, it also gave them extra speed and attack, a free +1 attack boost via Intrepid Sword, and upgraded Iron head into the powerful Behemoth Blade. The main offenders for this stone were offensive dragon types like Baxcalibur, Dragonite, and Roaring Moon, with the last of these even getting a temporary ban before the stone was banned instead. They would boost up with Dragon Dance and then make themselves incredibly difficult to revenge kill via their solid bulk, neutrality to Espeed, and ability to change their defensive profile on a whim.

However, this was an immensely different metagame. Not only was the tier lacking in potent defensive tools like Arceus, Pecharunt, and Aggronite, Terastallization was also free, and perhaps the biggest advantage of rusted sword was that unlike most mega stones it allowed its user to Terastallize. In the years since that mechanic has been entirely banned, leaving any would-be setup sweepers locked into the steel type. Moreover, Rusted Sword really only offers one opportunity to sweep, since if the user ever switches out it simply becomes a worse version of Aggronite; even temporary measures for fending off such a sweeper may prove sufficient in practice.

On the most recent survey, Rusted Sword had the most positive responses of any option, and so the council has decided to put the question to the community. Is Rusted Sword still too potent to be allowed in the Mix and Mega Metagame?

Requirements:
NOTE: THIS TEST WILL BE USING THE NEW SUSPECT PROCESS!

Create a new account on PS. You do not have to follow any specific naming convention, but your suspect account must have never played a game in Mix and Mega before this suspect test went up or you will not receive valid requirements (resetting W/L does not count for this - the account you use must never have played Mix and Mega before the test, full stop.)
At any point on your new account, use the command /linksmogon on Pokemon Showdown! You will receive instructions on what to do once you run this command.
Double check that you're listed as a voter here! If you aren't listed as a voter despite having valid reqs, please contact KaenSoul, Giagantic, Dhelmise or a member of staff.

The requirement to vote in this suspect test is a COIL value of 2850. The deadline for getting requirements will be Wednesday, March 12th.

Voting:
Once the suspect period is over, everyone who has obtained reqs will be tagged. The post will then outline a process of blind voting, which will be clarified once the time arrives. For now, follow the above "Requirements" subheading to ensure that you have achieved requirements and linked your account

A majority (>50.1%) of unban votes is required to unban Rusted Sword in Mix and Mega

TL;DR:
- Rusted Sword is permitted on the suspect Ladder
- The COIL value is 2850
- You must ladder on a newly-created alt of any name
- You must link your suspect alt with your smogon account using /linksmogon
- The suspect test will run conclude at 11:59pm GMT -4 (EST) on Wednesday, March 12th.
 
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I have just completed my reqs run using isword roaring moon, and I gotta say, this item is incredibly fraudulent. You miss out on every benchmark in history - shoutout hydrapple for taking 60% from a +2 Adamant Behemoth Blade and the unmegad hands that didn't die to +2 earthquake, you have no bulk to make it easier to set up, and you have exactly one shot at sweeping or else you are a wet noodle. I'm glad we're freeing this guy again because Rusted Sword is not broken.
 
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rusted sword is fine, this is just like pult suspect where people went "oh god why pult is clearly busted". sword moon, bax, gyara--none of them are bad mons but they are not broken enough to warrant an item ban. u get just 1 chance to do or die and all of them have their own set of problems in setting up, may it be spikes, bulky foes, or finding the right opportunity. even if you do manage to set up, it's not impossible to revenge kill with options like espeed, tclap, tusk, groundceus, gambit, zama, pech, helmet, fat waters, etc. you could say that these options are less effective on say screens, but frankly sword users are not any more broken than the next guy on screens--kingambit for example can switch in on pshot and kill everything (multiple times, even, if you factor in SD / Sucker) while being nearly unkillable.

used this for my run https://pokepast.es/b1629e9e968b8fb6
 
A stress-free run for the first time in like forever, I guess the trick really is to not rush it as soon as it's announced.

Team used: :magearna: :raging bolt: :entei: :kingambit: :swampert: :arceus-ghost: Pretty content with this team, yes it loses to almost everything long-term but you can bruteforce through a lot of things and overall it plays just how I like it.

From what little I've encountered Rusted Sword there's only really been one notably scary mon with it being Zamazenta, but even I'd be crazy for calling it too overpowered, so most likely voting Unban. I don't entirely like freeing it, as it'll essentially provide nothing to the tier other than cheesy one-time setup sweepers but at the same time it's really not as strong as it used to be with tera gone + a generally higher power level, so it'd be silly to keep it banned just because I personally dislike it.
 
Finished run and I don’t find Rusted Sword broken at all. I don’t even think it’s really a good stone choice on the mons that would use it. It’s saved by granting the Steel typing. It’s worse than Aggronite, even for offensive mons in my opinion. The BST boost is weaker and Intrepid Sword can easily be worked around. The weak Speed boost means only DD users can really use this. Bax could use this, but it'd be stuck using Glaive Rush, meaning it's much easier to revenge-kill. Also, the cost of Heracronite may not really be worth it. Intrepid Sword isn't worth the cost potential of something like Lucarionite or Diancite too for other sweepers.

So in my opinion Rusted Sword is definitely not broken, but I think it does add some value to the tier. The Steel-typing provides more offensive counterplay for HO against Extreme-ate spam. But overall Aggronite is better.
 
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I'm not the most experienced MnM player but since the ladder is filled with stuff like
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the reqs weren't too hard to get; I went 26-4 with the team Bonk posted in the thread. I'm probably voting Unban because I saw :rusted_sword: like once and the :zamazenta: that was holding it didn't do much in that game (but to be fair, a lot of the teams I faced had :charizard-mega-x: or :charizard-mega-y: as the only mega because this ladder is cursed)
 
finally got reqs after my shittest req run so far (i never make a new account). Blaming bonk for making me tilt. Used these two cool and awesome teams that definitely work and 100% do not lose to grav groundy.
:arceus-ground:-:urshifu-rapid-strike:-:great-tusk:-:ho-oh:-:regieleki:-:empoleon:
:arceus-fairy:-:great tusk:-:hoopa-unbound:-:lunala:-:pecharunt:-:kingambit:
i went 69/30 which is horrible but funny
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edit: Rusted Sword may be the most mid physical stone ever. ig :zamazenta: can now ohko :walking wake: but otherwise its pretty mediocre
 
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Vote options​

  • Rusted Sword - Unban (19/22 = 86.36%)
  • Rusted sword - Do Not Unban (2/22 = 9.09%)
With 19 Unban votes so far, it is impossible for this suspect's outcome to be anything other than Unban. I will leave voting open until the deadline so those who have not voted yet can have more time to cast their vote.

Rusted Sword will be unbanned from Mix and Mega. QT

If you qualify for Tiering Contributor
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, DM me or another OM leader with your votes.
 
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