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Most Generation PRNG Help / Information
- Thread starter mingot
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You know, seeing a shiny Giratina (any form) just makes it look like a grampa. I don't know if it's reall worth it, but just because I have the right syncher, there's a chance the Nature won't be passed, right? Or will it and am I now sounding stupid for asking?
Ok I have been doing recalibration because I hadn't gotten enough info on that part...but there is one prob. Me delay's are ok...not exactly perfect...range about 615-630 but my sec..are not really believable....they are about 34 sec or 58 they're just ridiculous...so my question is what am I doing wrong? I calibrated my DS clock external clock again just to check...and it's like 1 mila second late....
***NOTE:I know that the seconds are the time period between your soft reset and when you recontinue the game and Delays are the seconds at the start of your game to the point where your press the A button to enter the gaming world (x60).
Also the egg is reasy because I wanted to do a Shiny Test..it worked...easily at that but if my egg is already ready, is it gonna effect my sec's or delays?
Or should I just let go of the shiny, try to calibrate properly then do another?
I stopped using my AR to chcek IV's...but my secs are still long..
***NOTE:I know that the seconds are the time period between your soft reset and when you recontinue the game and Delays are the seconds at the start of your game to the point where your press the A button to enter the gaming world (x60).
Also the egg is reasy because I wanted to do a Shiny Test..it worked...easily at that but if my egg is already ready, is it gonna effect my sec's or delays?
Or should I just let go of the shiny, try to calibrate properly then do another?
I stopped using my AR to chcek IV's...but my secs are still long..
Well intialy that's what my first guess but...my reasoning did not make sence......here is why
I tried to soft reset at the start of new a min. Press the A button and caught my Intitial Seed...chcked it but it still gave me something out of the ordinairy 34...And im pretty sure it only took me 15 sec. to go press A to the Continue screen
Now if my minute the external clcok/DS clock was at 00 and it took me 15 sec...the seconds shown should be 15 right? But it always gives me something like 34..I tought maybe the time was when I caught th Pokemon..but that would was not usefull...and wrong as well....after a while..I stopped following the DS clock since it wasn't working...so I tought it might be when I soft reset and go beck at the screen..but that gave all sorts of result's too...is there something wrong with my external clock? It's the only possible reason!
Note: I think I know what's wrong now. Checking.
I have no idea. Double check that the seconds are synchronized as a start and then make absolutely sure that the minutes/date/month are all correct and match your DS time/date when you find your initial seed, because of any of these are off make the seconds calculation incorrect.
Yeah well when I checked the frames (when I tought my calibration was good)...I advanced my date of 2 days for the Journal to come out..............................
I forgot to reset it >_______< back at the normal date.
How utterly embarrassing.
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GAH why did I do such a dumb mistake!
There is no wai to delete my post is there?
Oh man I had those little mistake that screws you up..but never notice until the last min.
Anyways even if it was my fault Tks for helping..>_<
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OH! It's working! ^__^
I got two results this time..odd..BUT IT WORKED!
Thk You and im sorry! D<
Oh yeah no double posting in these forum..oups..>_<..........
Hey, I am new to RNG, only started 2 days ago, and been using the breeding to great success with shinies. However, try as I might, I can't figure out how to use this to get shiny legendaries. I can see many things that suggest that it's possible with J-Method, but I just can't seem to find a single entry for my delay bracket (625-635) for a modest with good IV's, and I have checked, double checked, and triple checked. I have input the correct ID/SID, checked the box, have the frame at 1000 (any higher seems to cause it to not respond on me) and everything else seems to be set.
I found something that looked likely with Method-1 and tried it, but when I hit the exact delay and exact seconds etc, of the correct day etc, and it didn't come up shiny, I figured it was J-Method only after all. (Incredible waste of an afternoon.)
Can someone either point out my (more than likely) glaring mistakes, or give some version of a walkthrough specific to finding shiny legends (much like the one for eggs, I have been wondering if I need perfect IV's or if I should just go for average ones.)
And please dont bash me for ignorance, I have read, re-read, and tested most of the RNG methods I could from the OP in the last 2 days, and also I scoured this thread for quite a while, but after a few hours I figured it might be easier to point it out and hope some nice person could a) help, and b) suggest an addition to the OP.
Cheers.
I found something that looked likely with Method-1 and tried it, but when I hit the exact delay and exact seconds etc, of the correct day etc, and it didn't come up shiny, I figured it was J-Method only after all. (Incredible waste of an afternoon.)
Can someone either point out my (more than likely) glaring mistakes, or give some version of a walkthrough specific to finding shiny legends (much like the one for eggs, I have been wondering if I need perfect IV's or if I should just go for average ones.)
And please dont bash me for ignorance, I have read, re-read, and tested most of the RNG methods I could from the OP in the last 2 days, and also I scoured this thread for quite a while, but after a few hours I figured it might be easier to point it out and hope some nice person could a) help, and b) suggest an addition to the OP.
Cheers.
Hello, i am using a R4 for RNG abuse and i have one question
When i start up the platinum rom there is a load time before the game actually starts and i was wondering for Egg iv abuse there is this step
1. Begin your cycle of soft resetting, remembering to set the clock on your DS each and every time so that the time when you "Continue" (your target time) exactly matches what was generated by the time finder.
however this is much more difficult with that load time int he way
so i was wondering, does it matter how long before you press continue or do you have to rapidly press A until you enter the game world
can i just wait at the continue screen and press A at my desired time?
When i start up the platinum rom there is a load time before the game actually starts and i was wondering for Egg iv abuse there is this step
1. Begin your cycle of soft resetting, remembering to set the clock on your DS each and every time so that the time when you "Continue" (your target time) exactly matches what was generated by the time finder.
however this is much more difficult with that load time int he way
so i was wondering, does it matter how long before you press continue or do you have to rapidly press A until you enter the game world
can i just wait at the continue screen and press A at my desired time?
No, because that will skew your delay.
The directions for resetting for your target time are in the "Common Information" section under "Hitting your Target Time". This information is kept in the "Common Information" because it is used in three different areas.
In a nutshell, you are going to set your time and then actually go into the game (but probably not start it) and then soft reset at the reset time to hit the reset time.
More than likely there are just no shiny frames with the IV's you have choosen in the time. Suggest you remove any IV requirements to start to see that there will be results and then start adding them back one at a time to get the best you can.
Also, bearsfan put up a video for legends yesterday, it is linked in the OP.
Well first off, if you're not going for Azelf, Cresselia, or the 3 Kanto Birds, then you don't need to use Method One. You have to use Method J. Also, don't make it so that every single stat is above like 25, or it's going to be alot less a chance that it's going to find one. Since there's first the 1/32 chance of having 31 in a certain stat ontop of being shiny (1/8192), it's going to be hard to find something that works for it. I suggest looking for shiny, what ever method is needed (J for any non-runner unless it's different in the OP), Synchronize w/ whatever wanted nature, and the IV's to be around 20+ for all needed stats. For instance, I use 29+ for all stats I really need (HP/Attack Needed/Speed), and 20+ for the rest of the used stats.
Also, did you do the needed steps/page flips to get your target frame? If not, then there's your problem. Even if it's not shiny, catch it and see where you landed to know how much to increase/decrease when going for the correct frame.
Gees duh why didnt i think of that
thanks mingot
Azelf- Method J
Cresselia + Kanto Birds - Method 1
Are you sure you calculated and performed the correct amount of journal flips? Say, Cresselia starts at Frame 5, so if you only subtracted 1, it would mess you up.
when u wanna check if u reach ur seed by the coin flip trick, the starting frame doesn't matter or it does? i try to capture & after one day of try i can't definetly no got my seed.:(
seed : 1e050265 date :2009/07/03 time : 05:09:00
my time & delay 14 sec & 592/512 set my clock at 05:08:00 & SR a 05:08:46
im want frame 99 to catch my poke, 99 -2(swettscent)-1(one runner)/ 2
= 48 journal flip
after one day of try i never got my seed what i have done wrong? & is there some to check what's seed is your 10 coin flip to see what seed i got?
question for the coin Magikarp = Heads right?
Srry if my english is bad im french
seed : 1e050265 date :2009/07/03 time : 05:09:00
my time & delay 14 sec & 592/512 set my clock at 05:08:00 & SR a 05:08:46
im want frame 99 to catch my poke, 99 -2(swettscent)-1(one runner)/ 2
= 48 journal flip
after one day of try i never got my seed what i have done wrong? & is there some to check what's seed is your 10 coin flip to see what seed i got?
question for the coin Magikarp = Heads right?
Srry if my english is bad im french
So im on the right Way,it's just that i can't get the right delay?
ok,will try again & again thanks
& for the coin flip trick on main screen of the rng reporter when i put the seed i want & change the method to Dpp egg Pid,oes the starting frame do some i juste start at frame 1, im asking myself if am start at frame 3 cause of the runner & me me on the grass?
ok,will try again & again thanks
& for the coin flip trick on main screen of the rng reporter when i put the seed i want & change the method to Dpp egg Pid,oes the starting frame do some i juste start at frame 1, im asking myself if am start at frame 3 cause of the runner & me me on the grass?
For the coin flips, you will start on frame 1. That's going by the IRNG (for eggs and such), and it doesn't affect your fame for wild pokemon. I suggest going for the first 10, since there's a slim chance that there's another spread with the same first few flips. Once you match the coin flips, then you'll need to do the page flips.
To be honest, I'm finding this really tough. Perhaps its just bad luck/bad co-ordination, but can't find anything to correct, and keep missing my target seed.
I'm pretty sure this is right, but just in case the error is here: desired frame is 7, 1 runner present, open journal, flip to page with caught pokemon, close journal, fish.
Is there any way to tell from what I do catch whether my timing was out or whether it was my delay or by how much they were out? I could work on it if I knew what to work towards, but I've tried nearly everything now and its getting really frustrating.
Thanks in advance,
Ascalon
I'm pretty sure this is right, but just in case the error is here: desired frame is 7, 1 runner present, open journal, flip to page with caught pokemon, close journal, fish.
Is there any way to tell from what I do catch whether my timing was out or whether it was my delay or by how much they were out? I could work on it if I knew what to work towards, but I've tried nearly everything now and its getting really frustrating.
Thanks in advance,
Ascalon
2. Once in game, unless capturing something with a very low frame number, you will want to verify that you have correctly hit your target time and delay. The easiest way to do this is to use the coin flip trick as explained in the "Common information for Breeding and Capturing Perfect Pokémon" section. If you miss your target time and delay, immediately capture a Pokémon and use the initial seed finder to figure out what time and delay you actually hit.
I've still got a lot of questions, so I'll try to space them out a bit so that they are legable.
I am aiming to hit 19:55:00 exactly, so would I enter that time or would I enter 19:55 or 19:54?
How do I interpret the data from the seed finder? Will I be able to tell how many seconds I was off or if I was off at all?
As my target frame is 7 and doesn't take long to get to, would I be able to simply do the test with whatever I do end up catching, or would the fact that I fished for it throw it off?
Finally, how would I go about correcting a discrepancy in the delay?
Thanks for the help!
Ascalon
2. Prepare your times
Synchronize Time - Take your target time and remove the seconds and then subtract one full minute. For example: 12:05:30 becomes 12:04:00.
Reset Time - Take your target time and subtract what you determined your seconds value was during calibration. For example: (assuming a seconds value of 15) 12:05:30 becomes 12:05:15.
2. Set the time of your DS to the synchronize time and hit A to save the changes when the external clock reaches a new minute. With this step we are synchronizing the seconds of the DS and external clock.
3. Load the game and then reset at your calculated reset time. This ensures that you soft reset will occur at the exact time that is necessary to "Continue" at your target time.
You are using this to check your delay and seconds. Oddly enough the seed finder has columns for seed and delay. If you went through the calibration phase (and I am pretty sure you did from your earlier posts) I'm not sure how you missed this.
Just in case:
if the seconds and delay on the initial seed finder match the seconds and delay you were targeting then you hit your target time.
You can just check it. Use the fish to find your initial seed.
If the fish is of too low a level immediately fly to somewhere like the fight area where you can catch level 52s. It might not always find, though, but likely will in most cases.
If it's always odd when you need even or vice versa then remove or insert a 3rd generation game in the other slot of your DS. If you are always off by a huge margin (+- 30, I would say) then consider switching years to adjust the delay. If you are off by 10, you just have to try again. This is no perfect way to ensure you the same delay.
And seriously, go back and give the OP sections for common information and capturing perfect Pokemon another read. I feel like much of this has just been cutting and pasting from the OP :/
Sorry, I realise I wasn't very clear. I'll try to make more sense this time.
The time question is the time to put into the seed finder, when I arrive at what I think my target time is and inevitably capture what I wasn't aiming for. It doesn't have a seconds imput box, as during calibration the instruction is to soft reset at the start of the minute precisely. Would putting in 19:54 and expecting "60" in the seconds (output) column be correct?
I hope this was a little less vague.
Yours sheepishly,
Ascalon
The time question is the time to put into the seed finder, when I arrive at what I think my target time is and inevitably capture what I wasn't aiming for. It doesn't have a seconds imput box, as during calibration the instruction is to soft reset at the start of the minute precisely. Would putting in 19:54 and expecting "60" in the seconds (output) column be correct?
I hope this was a little less vague.
Yours sheepishly,
Ascalon
im trying to catch a Larvitar,so if i wanna check the seed i hit ,does fly to an area will move my seed? cause i can only catch low level Pokemon on the 206 road and don't have rare candy to level it up
Put the time of your DS clock at the moment you pressed "A" on the continue screen into the seed finder. You do not input seconds, as the seconds is what the seed finder is going to actually figure out and tell you.
You will never see 60 in the seconds column, because that would be the next minute...
Trying to catch something where you can't sweet scent and have to luck into capturing something when walking on grass is asking for misery and poor results. Especially if you are inexperienced in general. Consider breeding a decent larvitar instead of capturing one. Additionally, if you are only attempting to capture one because you want a cool Pokeball consider the fact that a TTar in a "cool ball" completely tips off an opponent that you have no egg moves and will give them a pretty good idea about what sets you are not using, making it a competetive liability.
But to actually answer the question, you SHOULD be able to fly and check, but it might not always work as the Larvitar capure could end pushing the frame out past where the seed finder checks.