National Dex My Greninja-Ash Team

[ASDFlan]

]Its my first team so go easy on me for corrections Also i suck at giving info


Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 136 SpD / 120 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Toxic
- Earth Power
- Stealth Rock

Heatran is a good tank in my opinion for greninja.
I chose this pokemon as i had no ideas for a good tank.
Also i needed a trapper( i think its a trapper)




Ferrothorn (M) @ Power Weight
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Atk / 248 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Power Whip

I chose Ferrothorn eversice the combo of relaxed nature,powerweight and the Gyro Ball.
Also i know this pokemon is a trapper as leech seed and stealth rock
In general, start leech then stealth so it punishes switching and heals team



Greninja-Ash (M) @ Expert Belt
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Aerial Ace
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Dark Pulse

Ok its Ash Greninja. THe base of
this team and the base of my pokemon phase.
I chose it cuz why not its a good stab pokemon(mine isnt stab i think)
Also the set is move type diverse and with expert belt, its kinda op also again i hate any chioce items as it limits my moves and its kinda anoyying with onlly to be able to use one move.)



Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Knock Off
- Sand Tomb
I chose szicor as i had no for fighting untill remembered how good sciizor is as a non fighting type
I guess its good if you already have a fighting type pokemon and need a good physical pokemon that isnt weak to flying?
Lastly, Szicor is gud use him if need physical



Landorus-Therian @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Swords Dance
- Fly
- Earthquake
Ok its Landorus Is good and its a fact.
Landorus is resistant to electricity cause of ground and rock as ground is resistant to rock
also its a good sweeper.


Diancie @ Diancite
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 124 Atk / 132 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Diamond Storm
- Moonblast
- Mystical Fire
- Stealth Rock
I chose diance as I didnt like any of the tapu's.
Also Diamond store is good asf.
LAstly, I like Diance

Team

Heatran (M) @ Leftovers
Ability: Flash Fire
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 136 SpD / 120 Spe
Calm Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Magma Storm
- Toxic
- Earth Power
- Stealth Rock

Ferrothorn (M) @ Power Weight
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 8 Atk / 248 Def
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Leech Seed
- Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
- Power Whip

Greninja-Ash @ Expert Belt
Ability: Battle Bond
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Aerial Ace
- Dark Pulse

Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Swords Dance
- Bullet Punch
- Knock Off
- Sand Tomb

Landorus-Therian @ Rockium Z
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Swords Dance
- Fly
- Earthquake

Diancie @ Diancite
Ability: Clear Body
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 124 Atk / 132 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Diamond Storm
- Moonblast
- Mystical Fire
- Stealth Rock

 

[ASDFlan]

Hi. Great first draft of the team.

There quite a few issues however which I have attempted to fix and I will run them down so it doesn't seem like I've just 'fixed' the team, and so you can understand how to use this version over your own.

Fixed Sets

The Fixed Sets of the Current Team
So first of all, I've started by correcting some of the more viable sets adapted to THIS version of the team. The main ones to note are the mixed ash gren with expert belt, ash gren has great offensive stats with an amazing speed tier, however it wants to be a primarily special wallbreaker with it's access to moves like Hydro Pump and Water Shuriken, having Aerial Ace (with a timid nature at that) isn't cutting it I'm afraid. Only things I could see that being used on is something like Heracross, Breloom or Buzzwole, all of which are very uncommon and probably wouldn't OHKO Buzzwole. Expert belt is an okay item, but ash greninja really appreciates the 1.5x boost against Pex switching in on a dark pulse etc. Lorb scizor as well paired with sd lando isn't a great combination, the best way to make this work is if the scizor was banded, being able to chip mons on switch ins to U-Turns, or clean with bp or just help out the team with item loss, whilst doing damage at the same time. You posted landorus as Flyinium and Rockium on your 2 different pastes, but I think that Flyinium is much better here due to your team not being terribly weak to Zapdos, Corv or Char Y. Ferrothorn's power weight, whilst a clever idea, just isn't adding much to gyro ball, which in itself isn't the best move for ferrothorn with the rise of Kyurem since gen 7, which is when the move was primarily used. Now of course, you are using Phys Def Ferro, so it may not be your kyurem switch in, but to properly counter it, iron head is much better to avoid being pressure stalled by sub kyurem, but of course generally you run that on SpD. Body Press is another option for a damaging move paired with knock off. Finally, Diancie's Spread is a bit redundant as although it may be useful for mons such as Blissey or the occasional SpD Clefable, the spread doesn't do anything for diamond storm and only hurts diancie's counter to gliscor switching in on a moonblast, and being able to ohko Heatran. The attack EVs only allow Diancie to have a 30% to 2KO Blissey which, isn't the worst in the world, but Diancie has partners to support it against Blissey.

Fixed Team with Ash-Greninja

The Fixed Team with ash-gren
Now this was my first interpretation of a better team that had well built partners, however I did not want to change too much about your original team. I'm gonna say it first of all, I don't think ash gren is the very best option here, but that doesn't mean it can't work, it's simply up to you. Now I've put heatran as your rocks setter here, but this again is up to you, you have 3 setters on this team which can be flexible upon changing sets. I've added corv over ferro as your defensive hazard removal, as nearly every team needs hazard removal, and corv is a good pressure mon to come in, take a hit, recover and pivot. The main benefits of corv over ferro are like I say, hazard removal, and the ability to pivot on a predicted zone switch in, whereas ferro cannot without the use of Shed Shell, as the original team had a rather large weakness to it. Gren as a spikes setter is very good, when it isn't in it's ash gren form, it can't do much to pex without hoping for rng flinches, so it can spike to gain a free hazard chip and defog pressure the opponent. Gliscor is here over landorus primarily because of your heatran and zone switch ins, in that you don't have many. Gliscor has the ability to ohko both of them, and recover from a magma storm and a flash cannon, as well as being able to break some walls along the way. It's very good defensively paired with sd, and although it may not use a z move, it gains access to recovery in poison heal and roost, something that Landorus greatly lacks. Diancie is the same but with ep for heatran, this can be used as a rocks setter over mystical fire if that's what you wanted, and then Heatran could run taunt + toxic over rocks. Finally, Weavile is another fantastic wallbreaker with the ability to trap threats like mega latias, and locked lele being able to cripple and chip foes like toxapex, corv and defensive landorus, although that may not want to risk switching into a triple axel.

Fixed Team with Tapu Fini

Fixed team with Fini
Personally, I believe that fini is just as good a choice as Ash-Gren here, maybe even better due to it's bulky stats and great resistances to dark and fighting, something which your team is quite weak to. Because of the support from Corv with fog, fini can run one of two sets here imo, you can opt for (as I have) the calm mind set, which allows fini to setup and dish damage whilst being able to take hits at the same time, especially special attacks, or the underrated choice scarf set, which allows fini to limit defences such as toxapex, corv, opposing finis, and heatrans, just to name a few. Of course, you can still opt for the Ash-Gren team, but imo this is the team that fits the best.

I attempted not to change too much of the original team, but I apologise if it may seem like I have to you. I hope you can find some use in these recommendations.

Great team <3

alright please fix the team change anything exept greninja as i have already fixed him so pls fix this team

 

[ASDFlan]

I have fixed it mate, click on the spoilers.

Hey thanks:) can you copy the fixed team(the one still with Greninja) and paste it so I can use it as I'm new only played for a 2 months as in for fun with no knowledge