Yes, but since Pikachu-World is a different form (I think, it has a separate page on the strategy dex), it isn't able to use the "removed" 100000 volt thunderbolt.
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i'd also like to note in the NatDex format, Galarian Slowbro is able to Mega Evolve into Mega Slowbro despite Mega Stones being "removed" from gen 8. it shouldn't be able to, but it is
if that's the case i don't see any reason why pikachu-world can't use pikashunium z
edit: added replay for galarian slowbro mega evolving
https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen8nationaldexag-1613269136
Galarian slowbro cannot mega evolve. I believe that is a bug.
EDIT: The showdown bug report page says it isn't a bug. My bad.
https://www.smogon.com/forums/threa...t-before-posting.3663703/page-65#post-9023371
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"it's a feature"
Why is nat dex waiting on the hisui mon to be able to be moved to home before being available on the format? What about home availability makes it worthwhile as a marker to add them?
National Dex is based on SS OU in a sense so we'd basically be waiting on the hisui mons/moves/features to be transferred to SWSH b4 adopting them to our metagame. Additionally it more or less collides with our current identity if we were to implement them.
How do I change Deoxys form in each generation?
Click the deoxys form you want. Also this is for national dex questions, not anything else
I created a Nat Dex forum for cores. Is there anything like this, because I have not found anything. :(
you could check in the national dex ag thread, they have resources and metagame discussion there
Is it suboptimal:
1. to not have a z-move?
2. not have a mega?
1. to not have a z-move?
2. not have a mega?
neither of those are necessarily suboptimal, but usually you want both.
aight because my team is sorta countered, would it be optimal to have to weather pokemon on a single team or is that not good?
A consistent team ideally has other ways of dealing with weather
Ok: Would this make a decent NatDex core:
RIPQueenEliza (Weavile) @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Triple Axel
- Knock Off
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard
A True Dragon (Charizard) (M) @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Solar Beam
- Scorching Sands
- Roost
The Advisor (Corviknight) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Defog
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Roost
RIPQueenEliza (Weavile) @ Choice Band
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Triple Axel
- Knock Off
- Pursuit
- Ice Shard
A True Dragon (Charizard) (M) @ Charizardite Y
Ability: Blaze
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Flamethrower
- Solar Beam
- Scorching Sands
- Roost
The Advisor (Corviknight) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 HP / 184 Def / 72 SpD
Relaxed Nature
IVs: 0 Spe
- Defog
- Brave Bird
- U-turn
- Roost
Weavile and Mega Charizard Y are a very common pairing, but you're more likely to get results with a Defogger like Kartana that greatly appreciates the support that Weavile and Zard-Y bring to the table for it.
I actually have kartana on the team, just not as a defogger. Im running a normalium z set on it, but maybe replace swords dance? idk, here is moveset:
KNIGHT (Kartana) @ Normalium Z
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Swords Dance
- Leaf Blade
- Sacred Sword
- Giga Impact
Also thx
in that case you can probably just make the hazard removal something like tapu fini > corv
This is a national dex format, meaning everything is made on the assumption that pokemon can be traded from gen 8 to gen 7 and vice verse. If you could do that, then you could make a smeargle learn any gen 8 move
Ig, but that sort of opens more questions such as why don't any Gen 8 mons have Hidden Power, how would egg moves be handled, etc.
Hidden Power isn't a TR or TM in Generation 8, so none can really learn it, along with it being exempt from any natural learn-sets.
As of Gen 7, the way that sketch works allows Smeargle to learn any move in the game. This includes moves that will fail upon use such as Dark Void because the user is not a Darkrai. Knowing that sketch can apply to any move, even those without any functional purpose whatsoever, it's reasonable to assume that Sketch would work with all new moves implemented in Gen 8. Hidden power on the other hand is not comparable. Although it's generally treated as a move that any pokemon can learn by default, there's actually a pretty sizable list of mons that can't learn hidden power (Caterpie, Metapod, Weedle, Kakuna, Magikarp, Ditto, Wobbuffet, Wurmple, Silcoon, Cascoon, Wynaut, Beldum, Kricketot, Combee, and Tynamo). Even though something like Hatterene probably would have hidden power in its movepool, there's not enough of a basis here to make that assumption and add it in the NatDex format.
Presumably, yes. It will probably take some time and we're going to have to adapt to tera mechanics and all that, but I think there's a really solid chance we'll have NatDex next generation. No reason for us not to, of course.
There will be. (IIRC) TPCI has confirmed that Z-moves will never be returning, so unless there is a huge shift in the direction they want to go, they are a Gen 7 exclusive item. Thus, no matter what, while the national dex may return (though this is unlikley), Z-moves will not, and there will likely be a need for a format with Z-Moves.
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