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The goal of this resource is to showcase good teams that are easy to pick up and use on the ladder. This should aid players in familiarizing themselves with the current National Dex Ubers metagame. We will try to actively look over the sample teams and ensure that they stay up-to-date to reflect the current metagame as precisely as possible.

Indigo Disk Sample Teams

- 3Attacks Twave Pyogre + Offensive Ho-Oh balance by NeonJolteonWasUsed :Groudon-Primal::Kyogre-Primal::Arceus-Dark::Ho-Oh::Giratina-Origin::Zacian-Crowned:

- Trapper Zygarde balance by Runo + Council edits :Groudon-Primal::Kyogre-Primal::Yveltal::Ho-Oh::Zygarde::Zacian-Crowned:

- Sp. Def Zygarde+ z Arc. Ground balance by R8 + Council edits :Groudon-Primal::Kyogre-Primal::Yveltal::Ho-Oh::Zygarde::Arceus-Ground:

- Deoxys-Speed Hyper Offense by Adem + Council edits
:Deoxys-Speed::Zacian-Crowned::Yveltal::Necrozma-Dusk-Mane::Arceus::Groudon-Primal:

- Eternatus full stall by Community + Council edits :Dondozo::Eternatus::Arceus-Dark::Ho-Oh::Giratina-Origin::Chansey:
 

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National Dex Ubers Teambuilding Compendium

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Artwork by hexagonereal who knocked it out of the park as always​
Zacian-C Counterplay


Zygarde-C Counterplay


Primal Groudon Counterplay


Necrozma-DM Counterplay


Ultra Necrozma Counterplay


Eternatus Counterplay


Marshadow Counterplay


Swords Dance Arceus Formes Counterplay


Ho-Oh Counterplay


Primal Kyogre Counterplay


Stealth Rock


Spikes | Toxic Spikes


Speed Control


Anti-Hazard Support


Priority


Clerics
 
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National Dex Ubers Speed Tiers
The objective of this resource is to lay out a visual list of all relevant speed tiers in the National Dex Ubers metagame. Only viable sets are included; stuff like Adamant Koraidon isn't listed here. Speed creeping is only included if the set in question is a commonly used one. D-ranked Pokemon are not included.

Tier Zero
[ ∞ > x ≥ 500 ]

Speed
Sprite
Pokémon
Base
Nature
IVs
EVs
±
Extra Boosts​
910​
:flutter-mane:
Flutter Mane​
135​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
Protosynthesis​
784​
:necrozma-ultra:
Ultra Necrozma​
129​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
744​
:arceus: | :salamence-mega:
Arceus | Mega Salamence​
120​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
740​
:roaring-moon:
Roaring Moon​
119​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
714​
:necrozma-ultra:
Ultra Necrozma​
129​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
678​
:arceus: | :salamence-mega:
Arceus | Mega Salamence​
120​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
674​
:roaring-moon:
Roaring Moon​
119​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
656​
:blaziken-mega:
Mega Blaziken​
100​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
634​
:rayquaza: | :kyurem-black:
Rayquaza | Kyurem-B​
95​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
616​
:xerneas:
Xerneas​
99​
positive​
31​
184​
+2​
-​
612​
:zekrom: | :groudon-primal:
Zekrom | Primal Groudon​
90​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
607​
:flutter-mane:
Flutter Mane​
135​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
598​
:blaziken-mega:
Mega Blaziken​
100​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
594​
:xerneas:
Xerneas​
99​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
588​
:necrozma-ultra:
Ultra Necrozma​
129​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
585​
:xerneas:
Xerneas​
99​
neutral​
31​
0​
+3​
-​
578​
:zygarde:
Zygarde​
95​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
574​
:marshadow:
Marshadow:​
125​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
568​
:zygarde:
Zygarde​
95​
neutral​
31​
232​
+2​
-​
558​
:arceus: | :salamence-mega:
Arceus | Mega Salamence​
120​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
558​
:groudon-primal:
Primal Groudon​
90​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
556​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
77​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
555​
:roaring-moon:
Roaring Moon​
119​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
548​
:regieleki:
Regieleki​
200​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
-​
538​
:zygarde-complete:
Zygarde-C​
85​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
535​
:necrozma-ultra:
Ultra Necrozma​
129​
neutral​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
528​
:zygarde-complete:
Zygarde-C​
85​
neutral​
31​
232​
+2​
-​
524​
:cloyster:
Cloyster​
70​
positive​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
508​
:arceus: | :salamence-mega: | :dugtrio:
Arceus | Mega Salamence | Dugtrio​
120​
neutral​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
506​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
77​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
-​
505​
:roaring-moon:
Roaring Moon​
119​
neutral​
31​
252​
+1​
-​
504​
:deoxys-speed:
Deoxys-S​
180​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
-​

Tier One
[ 500 > x ≥ 400 ]

Speed
Sprite
Pokémon
Base
Nature
IVs
EVs
±
499​
:regieleki:
Regieleki​
200​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
492​
:blaziken-mega:
Mega Blaziken​
100​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
489​
:xerneas: | :yveltal:
Xerneas | Yveltal​
99​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
478​
:cloyster:
Cloyster​
70​
neutral​
31​
252​
+2​
475​
:darmanitan-galar: | :kyurem-black: | :rayquaza:
Galarian Darmanitan | Kyurem-B | Rayquaza​
95​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
468​
:xerneas:
Xerneas​
99​
neutral​
31​
0​
+2​
459​
:zekrom:
Zekrom​
90​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
448​
:blaziken-mega:
Mega Blaziken​
100​
neutral​
31​
252​
+1​
445​
:xerneas: | :yveltal:
Xerneas | Yveltal​
99​
neutral​
31​
252​
+1​
441​
:pheromosa:
Pheromosa​
151​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
438​
:deoxys-attack:
Deoxys-A​
150​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
434​
:zacian-crowned:
Zacian-C​
148​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
433​
:zygarde:
Zygarde​
95​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
426​
:zygarde:
Zygarde​
95​
neutral​
31​
232​
±0​
417​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
77​
positive​
31​
252​
+1​
416​
:mewtwo-mega-y:
Mega Mewtwo Y​
140​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
405​
:flutter-mane: | :chien-pao:
Flutter Mane | Chien-Pao​
135​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
403​
:zygarde-complete:
Zygarde-C​
85​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
401​
:pheromosa:
Pheromosa​
151​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​

Tier Two
[ 400 > x ≥ 300 ]

Speed
Sprite
Pokémon
Base
Nature
IVs
EVs
±
399​
:deoxys-attack:
Deoxys-A​
150​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
396​
:zygarde-complete:
Zygarde-C​
85​
neutral​
31​
232​
±0​
395​
:zacian-crowned:
Zacian-C​
148​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
394​
:eternatus: | :mewtwo: | :mewtwo-mega-x:
Eternatus | Mewtwo | Mega Mewtwo X​
130​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
392​
:necrozma-ultra:
Ultra Necrozma​
129​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
383​
:marshadow:
Marshadow​
125​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
379​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
77​
neutral​
31​
252​
+1​
372​
:arceus: | :palkia-origin: | :salamence-mega:
Arceus | Palkia-O | Mega Salamence​
120​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
359​
:eternatus:
Eternatus​
130​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
357​
:necrozma-ultra:
Ultra Necrozma​
129​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
355​
:lucario-mega:
Mega Lucario​
112​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
350​
:diancie-mega:
Mega Diancie​
110​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
341​
:eternatus:
Eternatus​
130​
positive​
31​
56​
±0​
339​
:arceus: | :palkia-origin: | :salamence-mega:
Arceus | Palkia-O | Mega Salamence​
120​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
332​
:magearna:
Magearna​
65​
neutral​
31​
0​
+2​
331​
:landorus:
Landorus​
101​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
328​
:chi-yu: | :blaziken-mega: | :kangaskhan-mega:
Chi-Yu | Mega Blaziken | Mega Kangaskhan​
100​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
326​
:xerneas: | :yveltal:
Xerneas | Yveltal​
99​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
322​
:lunala: | :urshifu:
Lunala | Urshifu​
97​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
317​
:rayquaza: | :kyurem-black: | :kyurem-white:
Rayquaza | Kyurem-B | Kyurem-W​
95​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
309​
:landorus-therian:
Landorus-T​
91​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
308​
:xerneas:
Xerneas​
99​
positive​
31​
184​
±0​
307​
:arceus: | :salamence-mega:
Arceus | Mega Salamence​
120​
neutral​
31​
124​
±0​
307​
:eternatus:
Eternatus​
130​
neutral​
31​
44​
±0​
306​
:groudon-primal: | :kyogre-primal: | :dialga: | :zekrom:
Primal Groudon | Primal Kyogre | Dialga | Zekrom​
90​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
302​
:excadrill:
Excadrill​
88​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​

Tier Three
[ 300 > x ≥ 200 ]

Speed
Sprite
Pokémon
Base
Nature
IVs
EVs
±
299​
:blaziken-mega:
Mega Blaziken​
100​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
297​
:xerneas: | :yveltal:
Xerneas | Yveltal​
99​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
293​
:lunala: | :urshifu:
Lunala | Urshifu​
97​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
289​
:zygarde: | :kyurem-white:
Zygarde | Kyurem-W​
95​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
284​
:zygarde:
Zygarde​
95​
neutral​
31​
232​
±0​
280​
:arceus:
Arceus​
120​
neutral​
31​
16​
±0​
279​
:groudon-primal: | :kyogre-primal:
Primal Groudon | Primal Kyogre​
90​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
278​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
78​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
273​
:smeargle:
Smeargle​
75​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
269​
:zygarde-complete:
Zygarde-C​
85​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
264​
:zygarde-complete:
Zygarde-C​
85​
neutral​
31​
232​
±0​
262​
:cloyster:
Cloyster​
70​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
254​
:groudon-primal: | :kyogre-primal: | :giratina-origin:
Primal Groudon | Primal Kyogre | Giratina-O​
90​
neutral​
31​
152​
±0​
253​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
77​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
239​
:cloyster:
Cloyster​
70​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
234​
:xerneas: | :yveltal:
Xerneas | Yveltal​
99​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
230​
:lunala:
Lunala​
97​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
226​
:zygarde:
Zygarde​
95​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
218​
:calyrex-ice:
Calyrex-I​
50​
positive​
31​
252​
±0​
216​
:groudon-primal: | :kyogre-primal: | :ho-oh: | :giratina-origin: | :giratina:
Primal Groudon | Primal Kyogre | Ho-Oh | Giratina-O | Giratina​
90​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
206​
:zygarde-complete:
Zygarde-C​
85​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​

Tier Four
[ 200 > x ≥ 100 ]

Speed
Sprite
Pokémon
Base
Nature
IVs
EVs
±
199​
:calyrex-ice:
Calyrex-I​
50​
neutral​
31​
252​
±0​
194​
:groudon-primal: | :ho-oh: | :giratina:
Primal Groudon | Ho-Oh | Giratina​
90​
negative​
0​
0​
±0​
190​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
77​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
186​
:scizor-mega:
Mega Scizor​
75​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
176​
:skarmory:
Skarmory​
70​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
170​
:corviknight:
Corviknight​
67​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
166​
:magearna: | :gothitelle:
Magearna | Gothitelle​
65​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
158​
:celesteela: | :tyranitar:
Celesteela | Tyranitar​
61​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
156​
:grimmsnarl:
Grimmsnarl​
60​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
146​
:blissey:
Blissey​
55​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
143​
:necrozma-dusk-mane:
Necrozma-DM​
77​
negative​
0​
0​
±0​
136​
:chansey: | :calyrex-ice:
Chansey | Calyrex-I​
50​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
106​
:toxapex:
Toxapex​
35​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
102​
:wobbuffet:
Wobbuffet​
33​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​

Tier Five
[ 100 > x ≥ 0 ]

Speed
Sprite
Pokémon
Base
Nature
IVs
EVs
±
96​
:slowbro-mega:
Mega Slowbro​
30​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
94​
:calyrex-ice:
Calyrex-I​
50​
negative​
0​
0​
±0​
90​
:ditto:
Ditto​
48​
negative​
0​
0​
±0​
76​
:clodsire: | :ferrothorn: | :sableye-mega:
Clodsire | Ferrothorn | Mega Sableye​
20​
neutral​
31​
0​
±0​
65​
:melmetal:
Melmetal​
34​
negative​
0​
0​
±0​
40​
:ferrothorn:
Ferrothorn​
20​
negative​
0​
0​
±0​
 

R8

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A couple suggestions for speed tiers:
-delete koraidon since it's banned (edit: I went ahead and did that one)
-add an arceus benchmark at 330, +speed nature arceus aiming to outspeed base 100 reaches that. DD Groundceus with this spread exists so probably add +1 and +2 too
-add adamant marshadow
 
is this open for anyone to add to, or is it just to be added to by OP, because I was planning on submitting heat crashes damage values for each relevant Mon?
 
Anyone can post suggestions here, yes, including sample team submissions as recently announced.
thx
so, yeah, i think it is worth putting up the bp of groudons heat crash against the tier. also maybe marshadows low kick. i have the values for the former if anyone needs them
 

Bobsican

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I'd appreciate the posting of such list, but for Low Kick it'd be rather useless as it's a constant value that can be found exhaustively here already.
 
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