Project National Dex UU: Break this Core (Week 23) - Thundy + Scizor

[R1C3M4N]

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 92 SpD / 28 Spe
Impish Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Roost
- Frustration
- Refresh

Good old dd refresh malt hard walls both of these fat mons and proceeds to set up for free and then blow up the opposition.

Some nice chip:
0 SpA Moltres Scorching Sands vs. 252 HP / 92 SpD Altaria-Mega: 54-64 (15.2 - 18%) -- possible 6HKO
0 Atk Gastrodon Earthquake vs. 252 HP / 136+ Def Altaria-Mega: 69-82 (19.4 - 23.1%) -- possible 5HKO

Poor bird doesn't stand a chance
+6 0 Atk Pixilate Altaria-Mega Frustration vs. 252 HP / 148 Def Moltres: 264-312 (68.7 - 81.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[Triton_da_g.o.a.t]

Chandelure (M) @ Choice Specs
Ability: Flash Fire
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Fire Blast
- Energy Ball
- Shadow Ball
- filler

defensive calcs:
0 SpA Moltres Scorching Sands vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Chandelure: 134-158 (51.1 - 60.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock (chand could stay on it to hit molt 2 shadow balls to kill molt)

offensive calcs:
252 SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Energy Ball vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Gastrodon: 520-616 (122 - 144.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252 SpA Choice Specs Chandelure Shadow Ball vs. 248 HP / 52 SpD Moltres: 229-270 (59.7 - 70.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO

 

[HydreigonTheChild]

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Protective Pads
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Close Combat
- Surging Strikes
- Ice Punch
- Bulk Up

Click BU on gastrodon and cc it into oblivion and click surging strikes twice on moltres to ko it or just roll high enough to do so in 1 turn

252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Surging Strikes (3 hits) vs. 248 HP / 152 Def Moltres on a critical hit: 348-414 (90.8 - 108%) -- approx. 31.3% chance to OHKO
252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Gastrodon: 268-316 (62.9 - 74.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Gastrodon: 400-472 (93.8 - 110.7%) -- 62.5% chance to OHKO

 

[N_Mareanie]

reserving deo-d


Deoxys-Defense @ Leftovers
Ability: Pressure
EVs: 252 HP / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Night Shade / Seismic Toss
- Cosmic Power
- Taunt
- Recover

Basically, Deoxys-Defense takes no damage from either of these, is able to completely shut them down with Taunt (denying any recovery or Toxic hitting Deoxys-D), and Pressure allows Deoxys-D to stall them out quicker.

 

[Lupla]

M-Altaria

 

[N_Mareanie]

malt

 

[Triton_da_g.o.a.t]

shifu-r

 

[Arishem]

Malt

 

[N_Mareanie]

reserving mmane


Manectric-Mega @ Manectite
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Overheat
- Hidden Power [Grass]

Basically, Mega Manectric outspeeds and kills both and can even pivot into Melmetal DIB if need be.

252 SpA Manectric-Mega Thunderbolt vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 330-390 (102.1 - 120.7%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Manectric-Mega Overheat vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Melmetal: 414-488 (95.1 - 112.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

-1 252+ Atk Iron Fist Melmetal Double Iron Bash (2 hits) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Manectric-Mega: 110-132 (39.1 - 46.9%) -- approx. 3HKO

 

[Arishem]

reserving Alakazam

Alakazam (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Magic Guard
EVs: 24 Def / 232 SpA / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Nasty Plot / Knock Off
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball

Alakazam outspeeds, OHKOes both mons, and is generally something you don't want to give a free turn if you can avoid it. Fuck him though.

Calcs

232 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Psychic vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Keldeo: 421-499 (130.3 - 154.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
232 SpA Life Orb Alakazam Focus Blast vs. 96 HP / 0 SpD Melmetal: 491-580 (112.8 - 133.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[Triton_da_g.o.a.t]

Dracozolt @ Life Orb
Ability: Sand Rush
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 176 Atk / 148 SpA / 184 Spe
Naughty Nature
- Bolt Beak
- Draco Meteor
- Fire Blast
- Substitute

outspeeds both in sand, if it got a sub he has no problems breaking the core, although melm can survive one fire blast and can strike back with a eq that will kill dzolt with rocks and without rocks lo will kill dzolt, so get a sub or chip melm first.

 

[N_Mareanie]

zammer

 

[Lupla]

M-Manectric

 

[Pubo]

zam (ban)

 

[3MoreMinutes]

goodbye zam

 

[scorbunnys]

ban zam

 

[Arishem]

MMane since I can’t vote for myself kek

 

[WM2N]

Mega mane Cause i will miss focus blast in that kind of situation

 

[Giyu]

Mega Manetric

 

[TheSorcer3r]

Zam we hit those

 

[3MoreMinutes]

Rhyperior @ Leftovers
Ability: Solid Rock
EVs: 180 HP / 16 Atk / 252 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Swords Dance
- Stealth Rock

Rhyperior is one of the better Goltres answers in the tier, able to OHKO with unboosted Stone Edge (or +2 behind screens). It also doesn't care about any of Dragonite's moves bar toxic. In addition, Rhyperior is very cool. Great rocker which also helps vs Goltres.

 

[Giyu]

Nihilego @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Power Gem
- Sludge Wave
- Grass Knot
- Thunderbolt

Nihilego takes minimal damage from Fire Punch or anything that Moltres-Galar does to it. After breaking Dragonite's Multiscale it just wins and Moltres-Galar has one turn to cry. Keep in mind it also gains a SpA boost after killing one making it even more dangerous against the other core member.

Calculations

->
252 SpA Nihilego Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 93-111 (24 - 28.7%) -- 98.1% chance to 4HKO
+1 252 SpA Nihilego Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 139-165 (36 - 42.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252 SpA Nihilego Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Dragonite: 186-222 (48.1 - 57.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Nihilego Power Gem vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Dragonite: 278-330 (72 - 85.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
-> Nihilego
4 Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Nihilego: 63-74 (17.5 - 20.6%) -- possible 5HKO
->
252 SpA Nihilego Power Gem vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Moltres-Galar: 212-252 (66 - 78.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+1 252 SpA Nihilego Power Gem vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Moltres-Galar: 318-374 (99 - 116.5%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
->
252+ SpA Moltres-Galar Fiery Wrath vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nihilego: 106-126 (29.5 - 35%) -- 13.5% chance to 3HKO
252+ SpA Moltres-Galar Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nihilego: 65-77 (18.1 - 21.4%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ SpA Moltres-Galar Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Nihilego: 109-129 (30.3 - 35.9%) -- 39.9% chance to 3HKO

 

[Arishem]

Altaria-Mega @ Altarianite
Ability: Pixilate
EVs: 252 HP / 188 Def / 12 SpD / 56 Spe
Impish Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Body Slam
- Heal Bell / Refresh
- Roost

Standard Defensive DD MAltaria easily uses Dragonite as setup fodder and can live any unboosted hit from GMoltres before KOing with +1 Body Slam in return after setting up a DD since it's not running Agility.

Calcs

0 Atk Dragonite Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 188+ Def Altaria-Mega: 25-29 (7 - 8.1%) -- possibly the worst move ever
252+ SpA Moltres-Galar Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Altaria-Mega: 156-184 (44 - 51.9%) -- 13.7% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Moltres-Galar Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 252 HP / 12 SpD Altaria-Mega: 262-309 (74 - 87.2%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

0 Atk Pixilate Altaria-Mega Body Slam vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres-Galar: 260-308 (80.9 - 95.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO (KOes after Rocks and can paralyse as well)
+1 0 Atk Pixilate Altaria-Mega Body Slam vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres-Galar: 390-462 (121.4 - 143.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[N_Mareanie]

Urshifu-Rapid-Strike @ Icium Z
Ability: Unseen Fist
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Surging Strikes
- Close Combat
- Ice Punch
- Bulk Up

You can easily set up a Bulk Up vs Dragonite and completely fuck up this core. You don't mind being Toxic'd since you OHKO both of these Pokémon after a single boost anyway.

+1 252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Close Combat vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Moltres-Galar: 322-379 (100.3 - 118%) -- guaranteed OHKO

+1 252 Atk Urshifu-Rapid-Strike Subzero Slammer (140 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Multiscale Dragonite: 476-562 (123.3 - 145.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[R1C3M4N]

Now that ice cream is ranked, I can finally use it to take a fat dump on this core, as it easily ohkos both even through dnite's multiscale.



SAY AHHHH (Vanilluxe) @ Choice Specs
Modest Nature
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
- Blizzard
- Freeze-Dry
- Hidden Power Fire
- Ice Shard/Sleep Talk/Explosion/Aurora Veil/Frost Breath

252+ SpA Choice Specs Vanilluxe Blizzard vs. 252 HP / 252+ SpD Multiscale Dragonite: 378-446 (97.9 - 115.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO after hail damage.
252+ SpA Choice Specs Vanilluxe Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Moltres-Galar: 434-512 (135.2 - 159.5%) -- guaranteed OHKO
It can even eat a non z move from goltres and any move from dnite (why is it fire punch anyways lol).