(NEED HELP)Who knew choosing 6 pokemon could be so difficult[RMT]

[Dragonmist19]

Team MistGang​

(I am open to any and all suggestions,please and thank you. - Dragonmist19)
This team is a team i made and i hope all who read this will leave information on how i can make this team better and i hope you enjoy reading about this team of 6 Pokemon.
(Corrections will be made in BLUE.)​

Excaliber (Metagross) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 124 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Def / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Zen Headbutt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake

This is the first member of my team(Excaliber) and he is sorta a standard leadgross with the BP,Zen headbutt,Earthquake and SR with the execption of the different ev spread;124 hp evs(for some bulk),252 atk evs(for some raw power),128 def(for some physical bulk) and 4 spd(incase i encounter another gross with less speed evs so im faster then it.This is also a Adamant nature for some more attack and i might change that to impish for more defense but for now i am going to stick with this set with the wierd ev spread and the admant nature.Zen headbutt helps aginst stuff like lead machamp so i can launch some stab supper affective damage at it(>=D) then after this gross dies i can send in my revenge killer or my Bulkynite.

Bulkynite (Dragonite) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 156 SDef / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Thunder Wave
- Fire Punch
- Roost

This dragonite can take hits and still attack and do a decent amount,its funny when i use dragon claw or something like that and 1hko the foe and there that"what..."and then i tell them that i have 0 attack evs and there like "wow,just wow".But anyway as i just said i run 0 attack evs on this dragonite*pause for a moment as use gasp and your like"lolwut he must be joking" when im not*but enugh about the 0 attack evs onto the other stats i run 252 hp evs on this with 96 defense evs and 156 sp.D evs with the impish nature i gave that makes both defense and spical defense a wopping 275 and then i have 4 speed evs.and the reason i chose a picture of dragonite going "Objection!" is beacuse most people are like"ha,my soandsopokemon can so 1hko your dragonite with soandsomovewithoutanystatraises" but when they attack they dont know i have multi-scale so when im at full hp i take half the damage.With one experiance i took a +6 earthquake from a gliscor and lived with more than half.So i think this about enugh about my dragonite.AND I ROOSTED WHEN I GOT HIT BY THE EARTHQUAKE.Then also I have thunder wave over thunder punch so i can go first.

EmeraldGuard (Empoleon) (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Grass Knot

Empoleon is the third member of this perty of six and empoleon helps hold this team together by taking out magor threats sush as nattori(still cant stand the english names) with HP fire(fireballs YUM),dory with Surf(well not through the USA),Swamperts and snorlaxes with grassknot(with supperaffective damage and through weight),and flying and grass types with ice beam(and also dragons).I switched the HP evs with the Speed evs so empoleon can be more of a specs user and outspeed more stuff with a speed of 239.This can come in handy aginst these slower sweepers who are trying to defeat me then BOOM HEADSHOT,there defeated.I guess if surf was a round house kick then empoleon would be chuck norris(wearing a tux).

(new)Evan's Toast (Swampert) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 Spd
Relaxed Nature (+Def, -Spd)
- Rest
- Ice Beam
- Earthquake
- Sleep Talk

Here is another pokemon and set reccomended by toastyrant13(thanks again).So this is a defensive Sleeptalker swampert who is also mixed.(thats allot for just one swampert isnt it)Well this swampert was added to take care of 2 threats i have found to this team,sandstorm and the annoying torment/subsitute-heatran.(oh for gods sake do i hate that heatran)But anyways this has Ice beam and earthquake for coverage then rest and sleep talk for the rest of this set.Then remeber do NOT take evens toast,beacuse if you take his toast he might not be happy.

NortonVirus (Porygon-Z) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Adaptability
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunderbolt
- Tri Attack
- Shadow Ball
- Ice Beam

Porygon-Z is back and with a compleatley new set.This time hes back with less power but more accuracy but that less accuracy had costed me chances to KO pokemon before or even a total match.But im thinking about going back to using thunder and blizzard now that i have a victini on this team but idk.I will leave that up to you peoplez.Also as you can see i added shadow ball for stuff like gengar and shandera.Wich are pretty dangorious at times but this will dominate them with 404 spical attack and 278 speed + scarf.So yeah that about wraps it up for Porygon-Z,so now onto the final poke of this team and the second new person.

(new)Janice|F| (Hitmontop) (M) @ Lum Berry
Trait: Technician
EVs: 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Mach Punch
- Rapid Spin
- Sucker Punch
- Aerial Ace

Janice has returned and ready to stop some teams with being a spinner now and a hitmontop.This technician hitmontop,greatfully suggested by ToastTyrant13(thanks) will help me keep rocks at bay and other pokemon running away form the pure awsomeness of hitmontop.With a combination of sucker punch,rapid spin,Fal....i mean Mach punch,and Aerial Ace will be taking out foes all day and night.But to bad there arnt any female hitmontop(so i had to name it janice(F) instead *insert sad face here* and with max attack and speed but that is pretty much the 101 on this new team member.

So those are all of my team members and right here i will put in any threats to my team if i find any or you people do.​

THREAT LIST
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Its really not anything to do with hes power,its just the rain and for this team rain teams are the earl of my demise so to speak.There really isnt anymore i need to say about politoad.
Possible ways to take it out:

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please dont even get me started on this one.If i dont need what i need to take it out its pretty much GAME OVER MAN,GAME OVER.Beacuse this thing is most of the time specs/flight gem with the hurricane.
Possible ways to take it out:

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AquaGuard (Kingdra) (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Swift Swim
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Ice Beam
- Surf
- Dragon Pulse
- Hidden Power [Fire]​

 

[Zebstrika]

Wow, that Dragonite is...cute...or something.

Anyways, never use Hyper Beam or variants without STAB. They're barely stronger than your regular STAB moves. And never use a Hyper Beam variant at all, because you can almost always deal more damage with two attacks, but on the second one, you have the option to do something else. After all, if you kill something with Hyper Beam, the opponent gets a free switch-in, then one free turn to set up, then possibly another if you have to switch.

Simisage is pretty much outclassed by Celebi, who is better or at least practically the same in every stat. Celebi can actually be defensive with Recover and MUCH better defenses, and it gets Nasty Plot to rival offensive sets. However, it gets a second STAB to work with.

Porygon-Z needs Tri Attack instead of Hyper Beam. Or put Tri Attack somewhere, because you need an attack to reliably spam.

Empoleon's Flash Cannon has horrible coverage. Even though it has STAB, it's not the strongest attack with only 80 base power. It's super effective on types you can already hit for super effective damage. Because of this, I recommend Grass Knot. You said you didn't take HP electric even though it could deal with Waters, so now you can deal with them and Ferrothorn (nattrei) simultaneously.

Lead Metagross should probably use Bullet Punch. I know the Focus Sash is almost non-existant, but it is useful because Metagross is so slow and it is strong enough to finish off many leads.

You have a bulky Dragonite. How about some other stalling moves besides Roost, like Thunder Wave?

Leftovers>Shell Bell, unless you consistently can deal at least 200 HP of damage every turn. And of course it heals immediately, but Emboar is soooo sloooow it barely matters.

 

[Xav]

and the reason i chose a picture of dragonite going "Objection!" is beacuse most people are like"ha,my soandsopokemon can so 1hko your dragonite with soandsomovewithoutanystatraises" but when they attack they dont know i have multi-scale so when im at full hp i take half the damage.With one experiance i took a +6 earthquake from a gliscor and lived with more than half.So i think this about enugh about my dragonite.

You are immune to Earthquake.

Simisage is completely outclassed by almost anything, and should never be used. Since you are playing in Dream World, use Serperior, who with access to Leaf Storm and Perversity is a superior option. Run a set along the lines of Leaf Storm/HP Ice or Fire/Substitute/Glare.

Dont run Hyper Beam on PorygonZ, Tri Attack is a more reliable option that doesn't turn you into setup bait for a turn.

There are more things that need improvement but I don't have the time. Good luck with your team.

 

[dacheat... Kinda]

This team has been tested out on PO(pokemon online)loads of times and so far 100% of the time this team has come out victorious.

This may be out of line, but how many games did you play? I find it very hard to believe that this team would stay undefeated on PO for longer than one or two games.

Anyways, suggestions:

Life Orb Roserade over Sage.

Roserade fits nearly the exact same role as sage, except better. Higher SpA (125 vs 98) but a bit lower Spe (90 vs 101).

I'm on my phone so I can't post a specific set, but here's what I remember using.

Roserade @ Life Orb
Timid nature
Skill: don't remember. Natural cure maybe?
- Giga Drain (to restore LO recoil)
- Venoshock (I was using a team with toxic spikes)
- Shadow Ball (coverage)
- Hidden Power [Ice] (change it to whatever you want...)

Anyways, I've been using that set to great success. Many people are not aware of how powerful/quick Roserade is. I'll give more suggestions when I get back on my computer. Typing on the phone is a pain.

 

[LeviLamprey]

Actually, despite this team's many flaws, Porygon-Z's Hyper Beam is the exception to the rule. However, the fact your Porygon is Scarfed can hinder this, so Tri Attack is generally better for consistency. Also, HP Fighting is weaker than Tri Attack on Chansey/Blissey. And how did Dragonite survive an Earthquake and take damage outside of Gravity?

 

[Dezza Laa]

And how did Dragonite survive an Earthquake and take damage outside of Gravity?

Roost :)

 

[TLo]

Roost :)

wtf kind of gliscor is slower than a dragonite

 

[evan1o1]

My team would a lot of fun with this one! I could just sit and pick the whole thing apart without a sweat. Simisage, as said before, is completely outclassed by everything and hyper bem is not a good move. You have absolitely nothing against a well thought out stall team.

 

[Elite_Trainer_U]

I don't have time for a full rate but change simisage for pretty much anything else. I'd go with a stallish celebi. Change porygon-z for a bulky porygon-2. Also switch emboar for a MixApe.

GL

 

[Dragonmist19]

first of all,dragontie took the earthquake during a roost and secondley im not using a mix ape beacuse i do not like then,i dispise them but thanks for trying to help and im switching shaniqua for serpentior with leaf storm.As soon as i make the changes it will be better.

 

[Lucien Lachance]

If you want this RMT to be taken seriously then you should be open to any and all suggestions and shouldn't just shoot it down becuase "i do not like [them.]"

 

[Dragonmist19]

ok,i will change that

 

[ToastTyrant13]

Team MistGang​

This team has been tested out on PO(pokemon online)loads of times and so far 100%(?) of the time this team has come out victorious,and if you have any suggestions please fell free to leave them and i will get back to them as soon as possible. =D So please enjoy reading about my team.(Corrections will be made in BLUE.)​

Well, hello Dragonmist! I notice you have some...strange guys on your team, so let me no if I sound harsj. :p
(Alot of people on Smogon won't take kindly to the use of things like Hyper Beam, Emboar, and stating "100% Win Ratio", as even the best of the best can't come close to that.)​

Well, let's get started! ​

Excaliber (Metagross) @ Rocky Helmet
Trait: Clear Body
EVs: 124 HP / 252 Atk / 128 Def / 4 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Bullet Punch
- Zen Headbutt
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake

This is pretty much the standard lead gross but with a few adjustments by me,first off you can notice i put the rocky helmet on this and thats for the fact that this gross is sorta a bulky lead metagross minus the explosion. and i have 124 hp evs on this gross for some bulk and the reason i have 124 is beacuse i use 4 of those hp evs for speed so if i run into another gross with no speed i can outspeed,then i have 252 attack evs to do some damage after setting up rocks and 128 defense evs to take some hits.This gross is very helpful beacuse it can set up rocks and then i can switch it in to take something aimed at any other of my teamembers.Then after this thing dies i can easily send in my dragonite or send in porygon-z to revenge kill the foe.
Nice use of a somewhat original set (everybody and there mama follow strict sets and use little creativity). Anyways, as a LeadGross, the Rugged Helmet is truly unnecesary. The only things that should really run it are RoughSkin, SleepTalk phazing Garchomp or Ferrothorn. You would DEFINETLY benefit from the use of a Lum Berry because of the prevailance of Thunder Wave, Will-o-Wisp, and Lead Machamp.


Bulkynite (Dragonite) (M) @ Leftovers
Trait: Multiscale
EVs: 252 HP / 96 Def / 156 SDef / 4 Spd
Impish Nature (+Def, -SAtk)
- Dragon Claw
- Thunder Wave
- Fire Punch
- Roost

This dragonite can take hits and still attack and do a decent amount,its funny when i use dragon claw or something like that and 1hko the foe(?) and there that"what..."and then i tell them that i have 0 attack evs and there like "wow,just wow".But anyway as i just said i run 0 attack evs on this dragonite*pause for a moment as use gasp and your like"lolwut he must be joking" when im not*but enugh about the 0 attack evs onto the other stats i run 252 hp evs on this with 96 defense evs and 156 sp.D evs with the impish nature i gave that makes both defense and spical defense a wopping 275 and then i have 4 speed evs.and the reason i chose a picture of dragonite going "Objection!" is beacuse most people are like"ha,my soandsopokemon can so 1hko your dragonite with soandsomovewithoutanystatraises" but when they attack they dont know i have multi-scale so when im at full hp i take half the damage.With one experiance i took a +6 earthquake from a gliscor and lived with more than half.So i think this about enugh about my dragonite.AND I ROOSTED WHEN I GOT HIT BY THE EARTHQUAKE.Then also I have thunder wave over thunder punch so i can go first.
Not much to say really, but the amount of damage with this bulky a spread and no Atk investment intrigues me.


EmeraldGuard (Empoleon) (M) @ Choice Specs
Trait: Torrent
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SAtk / 4 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Surf
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Grass Knot

First off,sorry for the crappy picture(this was the best i could find).
This is a choiced empoleon and i know thats awsome but i dont need to brag about it so i will explain it.I gave this empoleon max hp and sp.A and put the rest into speed(4 evs)and then i made empoleon modest to increase its power.Then i gave it surf over scald for the power beacuse for this set there is no use for less power even though theres a chance to burn.Then i chose HP fire over HP eletric for nattori(sorry im still used to some of the japanese names(So am I, lol.)).Then grass knot to cover what everything else cant like other water types.But empolen is sorta doomed on the speed aspect.Beacuse any of the fighting trios could come in and 1hko empoleon with a CC.
While you have alot of power, you should really run 4 HP / 252 SpA / 252 Spe and Timid since he has no business running HP investment like that on anything but a bulky set, and Empoleon really needs the speed to compliment his shmexy Specs.



(new)Shaniqua (Serperior) (F) @ Life Orb
Trait: Contrary
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Timid Nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Leaf Storm
- Hidden Power [Fire]
- Substitute
- Glare

Well i turned Shaniqua into a serperior for awsomeness wich is contrary so i can leaf storm,after leaf storm,after leaf storm,after leaf storm untill im at +6 and then i can sweep with my 356 speed and i can sub up and i might change glare but you people reading this can make that desision and for this im not going to make this all blue.But this is a good set even though i have a bit less coverage i have more raw power and speed at my disposal and even before that i was powerful but now im going to have both nattori and swampert shaking in there little pansy boots as i come in and DOMINATE them.(>=D) So sadley there isnt really much more about this but i might make the moves more offensive.So this is probally the shortest of the descriptions of all of the pokemon
Sorry to say, but this guy is rather outclassed and has such a poor movepool that it makes it even more so. It also tends to be perfect bait for things like Latios, Latias, Gengar, Voltolos, Sazandora, and Excadrill to come in and use him as a starting point for their seep. I would strongly suggest something more supportive to deal with Stall and Sand teams, both of which wreck most of your team.

NortonVirus (Porygon-Z) @ Choice Scarf
Trait: Adaptability
EVs: 4 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Thunder
- Tri Attack
- Hidden Power [Fighting]
- Blizzard

Then here is my second to last member of this awsome team wich is a porygon-z wich is the revenge killer of this team and i send it in once one of my members is knocked out then i switch in porygon-z and this set might be a better if i gave it download over adapability.but i have max sp.A and max speed like any spical revenge killer then i have choice scarf also like a revenge killer then i have 4 evs into hp.The reason i have blizzard and thunder over thunderbolt and ice beam is for the power despite the lower accuracy then i have the hidden power fighting wich is not expected beacuse most people think porygon-z are adaptability nasty plotting hyper beaming(?) blissy killers(?),but not this one.But instead of hyper beam is have tri attack.
Blizzard and Thunder are actually VERY dangerous and unreliable things to run on something like a Scarf user. Ice Beam and Thunderbolt are still very powerful and provide great coverage regardless. Now, one of the problems with this is that it's the perfect opportunity for things like Shanderaa and Gengar to come in on Tri-Attacks to set up some Subs while you're forced out and lose your momentum.



Janice (Emboar) (F) @ Leftovers
Trait: Reckless
EVs: 212 HP / 252 Atk / 44 Spd
Adamant Nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Wild Charge
- Flare Blitz
- Earthquake
- Head Smash

Then here is the final member of my team,a reckless emboar wich gose smash amd smash and brings all the pokes down.Sorry for the lame pun.(XD) But back to subject as you see i have all 3 of the recoil moves,wild charge,head smash and FLARE BLITZ wich is the most powerful with stab,max attack and with the reckless bonus.I actually think if emboar had any more attack then it dose it might have even been banned beacuse flare blitz alone with the stab is a 180 base power move and thats now even counting reckless.Then i have 44 speed to be fast a bit,212 hp evs for allot of bulk hp wise and then a max 252 attack evs.I can take out pretty much anything with this set with most the time the cost of my emboar. (D:)
Another large member of your team that could be better of as a more appropriate Attacker or Supporter. His meh-ish typing, horrible speed, and lack of recovery to much his (semi) bulk and huge amounts of recoil.

So those are all of my team members and right here i will put in any threats to my team if i find any or you people do.​

Well, as I have stated above, Emboar and Serperior are realling holding your team back from reaching its true potential.

The first thing I could point out is that your team needs a spinner to operate well and deal with Stall teams more efficiently. You could also benefit greatlt from a way to deal with Ghosts, Sandstorm teams, and Doryuuzu / Nattorei / Heatran. Who could fill this role perfectly?

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You-spin-me[/I] right around baby...]

@ Lum Berry / Leftovers
Technician
Adamant - 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe
~Rapid Spin
~Sucker Punch
~Falc...I mean, Mach Punch.
~Aerial Ace

A wonderful Spinner, whose prowess is wonderful is well. With Rapid Spin+Sucker Punch, you're perfectly capable of eliminating hazards and supporting you're team without fail. Mach Punch is an amazing STAB move with priority, much like Scizors epic Bullet Punch, that can take down threats like Doryuuzu and Sazandora with ease. Aerial Ace is a nice coverage that can heavily dent, if not OHKO, horrid pests like Whimsicott, Urugamosu, Virizion, Breloom, and Roobushin (I can't begin to explain how much I hate the name Conkelderp). Your item if choice is between longetivity and easy switch ins to Stealth Rock and Spikes, or the ability to protect yourself from Toxic Spikes, burns, and being put to sleep.

If you can fit this guy on your team over Emboar, I'd be glad to help find a way to help out more, but I've gotz to get goin'.

~ToastTyrant13


Edit:Woah Evan, slow your roll. His team just needs a bit of adjustment, that's all.

 

[Dragonmist19]

One bump a day cant hurt,can it?

 

[ToastTyrant13]

Victini...

(new)StarryKnight (Victini) @ Life Orb
Trait: Victory Star
EVs: 6 HP / 252 SAtk / 252 Spd
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Searing Shot
- Psychic
- Focus Blast
- Shadow Ball

This is the 1 of 2 new members onto this team,a Victini wich i havent really tested before but i have herd good things about victini with victory star helping with accuracy so now i have a new fire type and its seen on (LAME PUN ALERT) starryknights.Well ya,lame pun but this victini has good coverage with it being a psychic/fire type and even more with shadow ball and focus blast(but should i switch focus blast for thunderbolt or not)and this victini has max speed and spical attack and the rest into hp(to bad 2 evs are wasted (D:)) but anyway this is even more powerful with the extra life orb and then im happy about the accuracy boost with victory star =D but i might actually switch around some things now with the accuracy boost,but dose victini's ability still work if its fainted?

Okay, sorry if it's a bit inconvenient, but what's Searing Shot? I'm still uses to the Japanese names, so idk. Anyways, Victini is good, but if you say that you're having trouble with Sandstorm teams, then a Rock, Ground, and Dark weak-mon is not a good route to take. You also jave 3 ground weaknesses now. I could suggest a wonderful Swampert set that I've been meaning to try out, as you have no grass weaknesses and also have 2 guys to take hefty grass hits. Of course, only if can give up Victini. It's entirely up to you, but a way to help with sand teams would definetley help.

 

[Dragonmist19]

i will happily accept that swampert set,but i will have to throw victini off the bandwagon(so can you get me the set as soon as possible)

 

[ToastTyrant13]

Well, here's what I've been looking at for a while.

Hit it harder-Wall it better-Move less faster-But its stronger-More than weather-On the hour-Tanking things is never over. (lol, DaftPunk reference)

@ Leftovers
Relaxed - 252 HP / 232 Def / 24 SpD
~Earthquake
~Ice Beam
~Rest / Waterfall
~Sleep Talk / Protect

A nice Physically defensive, mixed varient of Swampert that came to me as per thoughts from a fellow named evan. The spread allows you to take on most Sandstorm teams with ease and take great hits regardless. Leftovers allows you to heal more HP in order to keep longetivity. Earthquake and Ice Beam are sweet moves with great coverage, especially due to the fact that most types weak to ice have pathetic SpD. Anyways, the last to slots are highly situational. The first two slashes can be used in tandem together to have a reliable means of recovery while being able to attack in your sleep. The second slashes provide a more offensive set with more coverage while utilyzing Protect to gain more HP recovery and Scout / Stall.

 

[Dragonmist19]

thanks for the swampert set toastyrant13,and also thanks for the other advice you have given me for this team and dayly bump =D

 

[Dragonmist19]

dayly bump of 4/2/2011

 

[Dragonmist19]

dayly bump of 4/3/2011,this is just getting lame

 

[ToastTyrant13]

Not sure what else could be said about your team, it feels rather firm at the moment.

Oh! I thought you might like these.

 

[Dragonmist19]

i was actually thinking of switching empoleon for kingdra to deal with the rain threat,but for those 3 im looking for the shiny animated sprite

 

[Dragonmist19]

bump