it looks like an inferior LO starmie to me, unless you're using it for the extra bulk. Starmie's advantages over this are tbolt and much better speed. Milotic and Starmie have equal special attack stats.
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New and "creative" moveset/EV spread thread "Mark 2"
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it looks like an inferior LO starmie to me, unless you're using it for the extra bulk. Starmie's advantages over this are tbolt and much better speed. Milotic and Starmie have equal special attack stats.
Starmie would have way less special bulk.
So eh. Mi-LO-tic is like a hard hitting tank thing.
Already been done
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49654
http://www.smogon.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49654
AW, the same thing happened to me when I made Celeblade :(
I wonder which set is btter though? Probably RL's.
BTW, the every single set i've posted comes to me naturally, i don't spend time thinking about this kind of shit.
What do you guys think of this set?:
Metagross @ Leftovers
46 hp /252 atk / 208 spe
Adamant
~ Substitute
~ Agility
~ Meteor Mash
~ Earthquake
Substitute has always been a favorite of mine, as well as Agility. Earthquake and Meteor Mash provide the best coverage with power as used on Metagross's previous sets, such as RestTalk and so on. 208 speed evs provide to outspeed 100 base neutral scarfers, with the rest in HP.
Or do you guys think just a SubGross could be better? with EQ/MM/TP or IP to hit Zapdos
Metagross @ Leftovers
46 hp /252 atk / 208 spe
Adamant
~ Substitute
~ Agility
~ Meteor Mash
~ Earthquake
Substitute has always been a favorite of mine, as well as Agility. Earthquake and Meteor Mash provide the best coverage with power as used on Metagross's previous sets, such as RestTalk and so on. 208 speed evs provide to outspeed 100 base neutral scarfers, with the rest in HP.
Or do you guys think just a SubGross could be better? with EQ/MM/TP or IP to hit Zapdos
You know, to be a inferior Sub / Rock Polish Rhyperior lol.
But yeah, Rhyperior does this better with a Liechi Berry for obvious reasons. Steel + Ground doesn't have the best of coverage really.
Agili-Mix Gross
Ability : Clear Body
Naughty Nature
252 SP Atk / 160 Atk / 92 Speed
Agility
Grass Knot
Hidden Power Fire
Meteor Mash
I like metagross special attack stat to provide suprise. I kind of played around with the EV's and metagross common switch in's are Foretress, Skarmory and Swampert (from my point of view) HP Fire OHKO's both Foretress and Skarmory and nets a OHKO from Swampert not invested 252 Sp Def. Meteor Mash will deal with Blissey and other special walls trying to wall its special attacks. With Agility it gives it a chance to resist Scizors bp and strike back with HP Fire.
Comments?
I have used the exact same move set.
Agili-Mix Gross
@ Life Orb
Ability : Clear Body
Naughty Nature
252 SP Atk / 160 Atk / 92 Speed
Agility
Grass Knot
Hidden Power Fire
Meteor Mash
I like metagross special attack stat to provide suprise. I kind of played around with the EV's and metagross common switch in's are Foretress, Skarmory and Swampert (from my point of view) HP Fire OHKO's both Foretress and Skarmory and nets a OHKO from Swampert not invested 252 Sp Def. Meteor Mash will deal with Blissey and other special walls trying to wall its special attacks. With Agility it gives it a chance to resist Scizors bp and strike back with HP Fire.
Comments?
This thing is a complete beast IMO.
It owns big bulky water with grass knot, freaking random steel with hpfire.
I don't think HPfire OHKO skarm though.
What's agility for, again? The counters you mentioned are already slower than you. You won't be sweeping with those three attacks either. Scizor's BP is priority and will go first anyway, not that you need to worry about it. Do Scizors really switch into Metagross often? I'd put EQ (for Heatran) or Explosion over Agility.
I need something to make up with it's slow speed, I invested more of it in Sp Atk and Attack category. Agility just fits to damage faster pokemon.
I ran max Special Attack with Life Orb, my HP Fire OHKO'd 2 skarmory's once and 2hko some, I think it depends if they place SP Def EV's on it.
Another pop up into my head set:
Mixed-Kiss@LO
220atk/140sp.atk/150hp
Brave
Hustle
-Focus Punch
-Air Slash
-Flame Thrower
-Roost/Extreme Speed
This set allows 100% OHKO without support from anything on the bulkiest blissey u can find in the analysis (148/252/Bold) with Focus punch, it should be fairly to focus punch against blissey. Air Slash for STAB, even though u lose the 60% flinch rate for a kill on bliss. Flame Thrower to kill phsical Steel walls and other stuff. Roost to heal off damage, or Extreme Speed to pick on weaken pokemons.
I am testing this set right now, so far, it has 2 kills in its first game with Extremespeed as the last slot.
Mixed-Kiss@LO
220atk/140sp.atk/150hp
Brave
Hustle
-Focus Punch
-Air Slash
-Flame Thrower
-Roost/Extreme Speed
This set allows 100% OHKO without support from anything on the bulkiest blissey u can find in the analysis (148/252/Bold) with Focus punch, it should be fairly to focus punch against blissey. Air Slash for STAB, even though u lose the 60% flinch rate for a kill on bliss. Flame Thrower to kill phsical Steel walls and other stuff. Roost to heal off damage, or Extreme Speed to pick on weaken pokemons.
I am testing this set right now, so far, it has 2 kills in its first game with Extremespeed as the last slot.
In this crappy thread? Yes. I've also contributed to the site, unlike you.
Wow! The standard Froslass set with Thunder Wave as an option over Taunt or Spikes! This is the number one lead in UU, in case you didn't know, and isn't uncommon in OU either. All you did was put Thunder Wave on, which is acknowledged in the Other Options.
Nice job, there.
Dude, u have too much sarcasm.
Seriously stop insulting people's set and try to help them or just point stuff out nicely.
LOL, thx for the support.
Agili-Mix Gross
@ Life Orb
Ability : Clear Body
Naughty Nature
252 SP Atk / 160 Atk / 92 Speed
Agility
Grass Knot
Hidden Power Fire
Meteor Mash
I like metagross special attack stat to provide suprise. I kind of played around with the EV's and metagross common switch in's are Foretress, Skarmory and Swampert (from my point of view) HP Fire OHKO's both Foretress and Skarmory and nets a OHKO from Swampert not invested 252 Sp Def. Meteor Mash will deal with Blissey and other special walls trying to wall its special attacks. With Agility it gives it a chance to resist Scizors bp and strike back with HP Fire.
Comments?
Meh, this wouldn't be too bad with Scarf Duggy to kill Heatran.
But really, agility is unnecessary. Just go with the standard Mixgross if you want to kill that stuff. If you want an Agility Sweeper, use the standard Agiligross (though with more speed, 204 EVs neutral nature is good) and just kill his counters before you sweep. I don't see this one being able to sweep as much as being able to kill his counters.
And even with a +SpA nature, Metagross never 1hkoes 252 hp/0 SpD Skarmory with HP Fire with max SpA and LO. Hell, he can't even do it with Specs all the time (53% with rocks up)
Did you check the analysis before you posted this set? There's already a MixKiss in the analysis, and it has a better EV spread and moveset in there, and it's a lot more convincing in there as well...
You'd better start thinking about it, because people in this thread are no longer tolerating it.
Yeah the MixKiss that I posted in the analysis is 100 times better than this set. ExtremeSpeed can 2HKO some Blissey (as I've shown in the damage calculations) and mine can take out Gyarados, Zapdos, and Salamence if they switch into Hidden Power Rock. Yours? Simply inferior. It's fucked by Zapdos, Gyarados and Salamence if they switch in, and Blissey is kind of playing mindgames with you if it has T-Wave, Protect, Wish, and Ice Beam. Focus Punch is ugly because it's actually a higher risk and higher reward. Sure you can hurt Blissey... at the cost of not always hitting and missing 20% of the time thanks to Hustle.
Also Air Slash is a poor option. The only Pokemon you're possibly hitting it with are Machamp and Celebi. The former I understand, but the latter is still 2HKOed by Flamethrower.
I'm sorry if I came out as an ass, but take it as advice: please use some common sense, testing beforehand, and spend some time thinking what the set can do before randomly post things. AND, check the analysis to make sure that it isn't listed. If it's a different EV spread, then post that it is. In fact, there are two rules in this thread that should be followed:
Also Air Slash is a poor option. The only Pokemon you're possibly hitting it with are Machamp and Celebi. The former I understand, but the latter is still 2HKOed by Flamethrower.
Then you really should, because you're simply wasting our time by doing so. It's because of these kind of posts that I've given this the title New and "Crappy" movesets/EV spread. Bologo is right: people are becoming intolerable about this shit.
I'm sorry if I came out as an ass, but take it as advice: please use some common sense, testing beforehand, and spend some time thinking what the set can do before randomly post things. AND, check the analysis to make sure that it isn't listed. If it's a different EV spread, then post that it is. In fact, there are two rules in this thread that should be followed:
OP said:
OP said:
It' nice to know someone had already made a mixed-kiss.
Thx for letting me know.
Which forum are the analysises? I never figured it out.
Could u give me the link to ur mix kiss? I want to try it.
I don't mind u come out as an ass.
Btw: http://www.google.com/url?q=http://...t&cd=1&usg=AFQjCNEXsmZtpB0frlhOjzt6cT3AzwLU1g
You should probably check there before you post a new set.
You should probably check there before you post a new set.
I mean like the Plat revamps.
Oh... how about you look around a little???
You also could be banned. So, for your sake, I would try to be nicer.
The Platinum Updates are found in Contributions & Corrections, near the top from the forums index.
Katherine hasn't just insulted people. She(he?) supported me with Choice Specs Articuno... How could Katherine be banned anyway?
For Mixkiss: If you want to use Hustle more, run Aerial Ace or use Wide Lens.
For Mixkiss: If you want to use Hustle more, run Aerial Ace or use Wide Lens.
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