Hey guys i have posted a few teams on here before, i had most success with a team that abused garchomp and sandstorm before his ban. However, i really dont like weather, not that its cheap, i just hate how inflexible it makes your team. Like when you see a politoed, theres only about 12 or so guys you can pair with him on a rain team, basically you are limited by your own rain. So i tried starting a weatherless team. I've had some success [ (17:10:08) ±Porygon: Your rank in Wifi OU is 1600/73572 [1211 points / 74 battles]! ] but I have a few issues (discussed at the end), so here it is.***EDIT*** i have made several changes to my team, with great success in limited testing [(10:29:19) ±Porygon: Your rank in Wifi OU is 1115/73488 [1242 points / 81 battles]! only 7 battles since the changes and ive gained about 500 places on the ladder] changes will be in red, and are reflected in the threatlist.
Team Building
I always enjoy the team building parts of RMT's but honestly im not too good with the pictures and sometimes these get too long so ill just briefly explain to you my thoughts.
1. I love Scizor, i think he's been on every team i have. For this team i wanted to try out a bulkier Scizor with roost
2. Heatran is my Scizor partner, the two work wonders for each other (see Flash Fire)
3. i added Latios because he is so good at messing up my opponents strategy through the power of his moves
4. While building the team i noticed the Scrafty's STABs are only resisted by 2 pokemon, Heracross and Toxicroak, both rarely used, so i tried Scrafty
5. Here i realized my team was very offensive, and i liked that, but i needed a 'failsafe' of sorts, someone to switch in when i had noone to switch in. So i picked the great dual-wall, porygon2.
6. Now i saw a glaring fighting weakness on my team (i couldnt let latios sponge all fighting moves) so i threw in Gengar for his immunity.
7. However, i hated Gengar, not sure what it was, but he just didn't suit me, so i brought in Sigilyph for his 4x fighting resistance. 2. Heatran is my Scizor partner, the two work wonders for each other (see Flash Fire)
3. i added Latios because he is so good at messing up my opponents strategy through the power of his moves
4. While building the team i noticed the Scrafty's STABs are only resisted by 2 pokemon, Heracross and Toxicroak, both rarely used, so i tried Scrafty
5. Here i realized my team was very offensive, and i liked that, but i needed a 'failsafe' of sorts, someone to switch in when i had noone to switch in. So i picked the great dual-wall, porygon2.
6. Now i saw a glaring fighting weakness on my team (i couldnt let latios sponge all fighting moves) so i threw in Gengar for his immunity.
8. Thanks to a suggestion i now have replaced Sigilyph for Tentacruel
Now on to the details!
Scizor @ Leftovers
Adament / Technician
252 hp / 40 attack / 216 sp def
Swords Dance
Roost
Bug Bite
Bullet Punch
Roost
Bug Bite
Bullet Punch
Description:
So, Scizor is one of my favorite pokemon because he is so useful. I often lead with him if the opponent's predidcted lead lacks a fire move. Once i Swords Dance my opponent is sent scrambling for a counter. I used to use Superpower over Roost, but i actually like roost because i can set-up on Ferrothorn now and heal off the Leech Seed/Gyro ball damage. HE also needs to be bulky because he is one of my main defensive synergy peices (see Latios's Synergy chart and lol). Obviously Bug Bite and BP for STAB, with Swords Dance his Attack reaches about 1300. He has won me many matches and he is going nowhere, feel free to suggest altered EV's or moves, although i am happy with how he is now.
Synergy:
FIRE: Heatran, Latios, Porygon2(for explanation go to his description) Tentacruel
FIRE: Heatran, Latios, Porygon2(for explanation go to his description) Tentacruel
Heatran @ Air Balloon
Timid / Flash Fire
4 hp / 252 sp attack / 252 speed
Hidden Power (Grass)
Flamethrower
Earth Power
*STEALTH ROCK*
Flamethrower
Earth Power
*STEALTH ROCK*
Description:
I might as well call Scizor a worm because he is excellent bait, he brings fire moves like there is no tmrw, and HEatran loves every second of it. I use flamthrower because i like the accuracy and the more PP can be useful if my opponent is stalling. Earth Power is to get grounded Heatrans and Excadrills and others weak to ground. Stealth Rocks was added to help give some added damage as people switch around my team. HP Grass is much less standard, and i love it. Excellent counters for HEatran are the Water/Ground types because their STABs wreck Heatran, so i added HP Grass to catch them off guard and OHKO. The EVs are for maximum damage and speed, I'm very pleased with Heatran also, he most likely isnt going anywhere.
Synergy:
Ground: Latios
I might as well call Scizor a worm because he is excellent bait, he brings fire moves like there is no tmrw, and HEatran loves every second of it. I use flamthrower because i like the accuracy and the more PP can be useful if my opponent is stalling. Earth Power is to get grounded Heatrans and Excadrills and others weak to ground. Stealth Rocks was added to help give some added damage as people switch around my team. HP Grass is much less standard, and i love it. Excellent counters for HEatran are the Water/Ground types because their STABs wreck Heatran, so i added HP Grass to catch them off guard and OHKO. The EVs are for maximum damage and speed, I'm very pleased with Heatran also, he most likely isnt going anywhere.
Synergy:
Ground: Latios
Water: Latios, Porygon2*, Tentacruel
Fighting: Latios, Tentacruel
Scrafty @ Leftovers
Careful (-sp att + sp def) / Shed Skin
252 hp / 8 attack / 248 sp def
Bulk Up
Drain Punch
Rest
Crunch
Drain Punch
Rest
Crunch
Description:
Ah, I love this guy. Lets start with the EVs/nature, they are there for maximum special bulk. Now, Rest + Shed Skin is a dangerous combination, I simply sleep and then wake back up before the normal 3 turns. This allows me to use Bulk Up (hence the sp def EVs) and then take advantage of the immense coverage his moves provide. He is truly a powerful pokemon, yet I still consider changing him to a DD version with Moxie, but honestly, my team is more of a bulky offense team and I'm not sure if the DD version is bulky enough, but I'm very open for moveset changes here.
Ah, I love this guy. Lets start with the EVs/nature, they are there for maximum special bulk. Now, Rest + Shed Skin is a dangerous combination, I simply sleep and then wake back up before the normal 3 turns. This allows me to use Bulk Up (hence the sp def EVs) and then take advantage of the immense coverage his moves provide. He is truly a powerful pokemon, yet I still consider changing him to a DD version with Moxie, but honestly, my team is more of a bulky offense team and I'm not sure if the DD version is bulky enough, but I'm very open for moveset changes here.
Synergy:
Flying: Heatran, Tentacruel
Fighting: Tentacruel, Latios
Flying: Heatran, Tentacruel
Fighting: Tentacruel, Latios
Latios @ Choice Specs
Timid / Levitate
4 hp / 252 sp attack / 252 speed
Draco Meteor
Surf
Hidden Power (Fire)
Trick
Surf
Hidden Power (Fire)
Trick
Description:
I <3 Latios. I generally lead with Latios if the opponent has anything but a Blissey or something that one of my other guys can handle better. Sometime I’ll even go against a Blissey and just trick him. No one (but Blissey and steels) like a STAB Specs Draco Meteor coming off a base 130 special attack. I love to ruin an opponent’s strategy by just OHKO’ing his first Pokémon. I often will hide the HP for as long as possible if I see a Ferrothorn, trying to lure him out, or I just try to guess my opponent fleeing a Meteor. It’s amazing how much D Meteor hits at -2, even -4 it still is doing 50% or more to certain pokes, I love it. Surf is great coverage move combined with DM, and trick is used for 2 reasons: 1. To ruin a wall, especially a physically attacking one (it can backfire against something like porygon2 who then hits hard with specs) and 2. To just ditch the specs so I can freely use moves if it seems like I'm going to need to use a combination of surf, HP and then DM to get the win (usually I only do thing when latios is my last attacker, ill trick and then try to sweep with the coverage). EV’s and natures are for maximum sp attack and speed. Unlike Scizor and Scrafty who are bulky set-up guys, Latios is meant to attack hard right off of the bat, I mean he OHKOs MULTISCALE DRAGONITE 100% of the time (if it is a purely offensive nite, otherwise it has a lower chance, but still a chance, to OHKO). Latios is a big piece of my team and I would be hesitant to change him because nobody hits as hard and fast as he does (sexual reference intended), but I would definitely be open to changes, especially in his moveset.
I <3 Latios. I generally lead with Latios if the opponent has anything but a Blissey or something that one of my other guys can handle better. Sometime I’ll even go against a Blissey and just trick him. No one (but Blissey and steels) like a STAB Specs Draco Meteor coming off a base 130 special attack. I love to ruin an opponent’s strategy by just OHKO’ing his first Pokémon. I often will hide the HP for as long as possible if I see a Ferrothorn, trying to lure him out, or I just try to guess my opponent fleeing a Meteor. It’s amazing how much D Meteor hits at -2, even -4 it still is doing 50% or more to certain pokes, I love it. Surf is great coverage move combined with DM, and trick is used for 2 reasons: 1. To ruin a wall, especially a physically attacking one (it can backfire against something like porygon2 who then hits hard with specs) and 2. To just ditch the specs so I can freely use moves if it seems like I'm going to need to use a combination of surf, HP and then DM to get the win (usually I only do thing when latios is my last attacker, ill trick and then try to sweep with the coverage). EV’s and natures are for maximum sp attack and speed. Unlike Scizor and Scrafty who are bulky set-up guys, Latios is meant to attack hard right off of the bat, I mean he OHKOs MULTISCALE DRAGONITE 100% of the time (if it is a purely offensive nite, otherwise it has a lower chance, but still a chance, to OHKO). Latios is a big piece of my team and I would be hesitant to change him because nobody hits as hard and fast as he does (sexual reference intended), but I would definitely be open to changes, especially in his moveset.
Oh and he 2HKOs physically defensive Skarmory, with DM, OHKOing with HP.
Synergy:
Ice: Heatran, Scizor, Tentacruel
Dragon: Heatran, Scizor
Ghost: Heatran, Scizor, Porygon2, Scrafty
Bug: Heatran, Scizor, Tentacruel
Dark: Heatran, Scizor, Scrafty
Ice: Heatran, Scizor, Tentacruel
Dragon: Heatran, Scizor
Ghost: Heatran, Scizor, Porygon2, Scrafty
Bug: Heatran, Scizor, Tentacruel
Dark: Heatran, Scizor, Scrafty
Porygon2 @ Evolite
Bold (-att +def) / Trace
4 hp / 252 def / 252 sp def
Recover
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
Ice Beam
Thunderbolt
Thunderwave
Description:
Here is my sponge. I switch to him when I feel like no-one else can take the damage well or I want to scout a moveset before bringing in a counter. I use a BoltBeam Combo for coverage, and I have thunderwave because it allows my sweepers a better shot at sweeping since they are generally only mediocre in the speed department. Recover is obvious, and the EV’s are for max defenses to abuse evolite more. I love Trace, it’s the reason why Porygon2 is listed under Synergy for electric, water and fire. Most electric, water and fire types now have an ability that allows them to absorb their types of moves, so I switch in porygon2, trace the water absorb or motor drive or flash fire. Trace is a godsend in many aspects,an opponent once mocked me for letting porygon get poisoned, but I had the last laugh when I traced his Gliscor’s Poison Heal. Prankster recover is also fun. So is intimidating a Salamence. Or stealing Swift Swim. But, I have to say porygon is probably only here because of Trace, I mean he’s a great wall, but I feel like there are better mixed walls, or at least a better set here for him. So feel free to suggest changes here.
Here is my sponge. I switch to him when I feel like no-one else can take the damage well or I want to scout a moveset before bringing in a counter. I use a BoltBeam Combo for coverage, and I have thunderwave because it allows my sweepers a better shot at sweeping since they are generally only mediocre in the speed department. Recover is obvious, and the EV’s are for max defenses to abuse evolite more. I love Trace, it’s the reason why Porygon2 is listed under Synergy for electric, water and fire. Most electric, water and fire types now have an ability that allows them to absorb their types of moves, so I switch in porygon2, trace the water absorb or motor drive or flash fire. Trace is a godsend in many aspects,an opponent once mocked me for letting porygon get poisoned, but I had the last laugh when I traced his Gliscor’s Poison Heal. Prankster recover is also fun. So is intimidating a Salamence. Or stealing Swift Swim. But, I have to say porygon is probably only here because of Trace, I mean he’s a great wall, but I feel like there are better mixed walls, or at least a better set here for him. So feel free to suggest changes here.
Synergy:
Fighting: Latios, Tentacruel
Fighting: Latios, Tentacruel
Tentacruel @ Black Sludge
Bold / Liquid Ooze
252hp / 240 def / 16 speed
Bold / Liquid Ooze
252hp / 240 def / 16 speed
Toxic Spikes
Scald
Ice Beam
?????
Scald
Ice Beam
?????
Description:
New guy right here! He fits in perfectly to replace Sigilyph, as he can wall fighting attacks and sponge fire/water attacks. This gives me a huge help agaisnt the dangerous infernape. EVs are for maximum pysical bulk, as his natural special bulk needs no help. I need a fourht move here, im hesistent to use toxic because its very redunent, giga drain was suggested but i cant see that doing any damage non-STABd and lower sp attack. Maybe venoshock? Or actually Hex might be useful to beat Jellicent.
New guy right here! He fits in perfectly to replace Sigilyph, as he can wall fighting attacks and sponge fire/water attacks. This gives me a huge help agaisnt the dangerous infernape. EVs are for maximum pysical bulk, as his natural special bulk needs no help. I need a fourht move here, im hesistent to use toxic because its very redunent, giga drain was suggested but i cant see that doing any damage non-STABd and lower sp attack. Maybe venoshock? Or actually Hex might be useful to beat Jellicent.
Synergy:
Electric:Latios, Porygon2
Ground: Latios
Psychic: Heatran, Scizor, Scrafty, Latios
Ground: Latios
Psychic: Heatran, Scizor, Scrafty, Latios
Conclusion:
I have serious issues with several things:
1: fire/fighting types, I need to save latios for them, or if it is emboar I can try to get lucky and switch in Heatran on a fire move and outspeed. I fixed this issue with Tentacruel.
2: Bulky waters: I can only use porygon2, but if they toxic I have to hope DM can KO them.
3:Rain Teams, yea… who doesn’t have problems with them?
Ok I really hoped you enjoyed this, I put a lot of work into the team and the descriptions. I really hope you can help me figure out my last 2 team slots specifically, this team has great potential, especially as a non-weather team. Thanks Guys! I’ll post a threatlist when I have time, this thing took me an hour already hahah Threat List is now posted
