None weather OU team

xXkovuXx

So this is a none weather team that has been able to battle in any type of situation. Very high win rate and all and all amazing team work.


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Darmanitan (Jolly) Life orb
252 attack, 4 sp def, 252 speed
Sheer force
1: flare blitz
2: u-turn
3: earthquake
4: super power

amazing lead pokemon, out speeds most of the meta-game. kills off most leads perfect move set coverage. Flare blitz is my prime choice for attack with the stab effect plus life orb and sheer force its nothing you want to play around with. Super power is to ko the heatran switch in. earthquake covers rock types and u-turn allows me to switch out causing damage. He can out speed almost every water type so using u-turn and throwing out blastoids works amazing.

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Blastoids (Bold) leftovers
252 hp, 252 def, 4 speed
torrent
1:rapid spin
2: scald
3: ice beam
4: toxic

Toids works on many different fronts. Scald is abused throughout the entire match being water stab and 30% chance burn it will cripple any attack base pokemon. rapsid spin deals with rocks which helps weavile and crobat. Icebeam is for grass and dragon switch ins. Toxic is for taking down the bulcky stallers.. example duskclopse and wallrine.

Weavile (Jolly) focusash
252 attack, 252 speed, 4 sp def
pressure
1: ice punch
2: night slash
3: brick break
4: sword dance

Amazing mid game sweeper. Toids gets rid of enerty hazards which halts my sweep. Focus sash allows me to set up one sword dance and ko-ing most foes after the plus 2 attack.

Crobat (adamant) choice band
172 attack, 84 def, 252 speed
Inner focus
1:Brave bird
2:Super fang
3:u turn
4:toxic

Crobat deals with annoying fighting types along with Mienshao. Inner focus allows me to take the fake out and shrug it off. then brave birding the foe for the one hit kill. Crobat absorbs fighting based attacks with its .25 resists. brave bird tends to be my only natural chocie. with high speeds stab attack and with the choice band boasting 421 attack nothing loves take a hit from this guy.

Bisharp (adamant) sitrus berry
252 hp, 252 attack
Inner focus
1:sucker punch
2: sub
3: sword dance
4: brick break
This guy is my revenge sweeper. Works amazing with weavile. Once weavile falls Bisharp comes out and revenge sweeps with sucker punch. if I can out speed the foe then Ill throw a sub up along with a sword dance. Only one sword dance is needed to sweep with him. behind the sub wall I have the option to throw the foe off with a brick break. Iv had times where because the foe saw me using brick break over sucker, they threw a fast psychic out that too dropped to the sucker punch. All in all a nasty little guy.

Kingdra (Adamant) lum berry
4 hp, 252 attack, 252 speed
Swift swim
1: dragon dance
2: sub
3: water fall
4: out rage
Late game sweeper, runs 500 plus speed in the ran allowing me to fight all day in rain weather. Dragon dance shoots me up to 400 speed and nice attack. Sub allows me to hide behind status users that try and cripple my speed. (thunder wave) water fall for flinch till i break down any steel walls. Outrage for the final kill. Lum berry saves me either from confusion.


Anyways thats my team seems to work really well. I feel the only real weakness i have is electric type pokemon (no ground pokemon to absorb the blow) anyways rate and let me know
 
Haxorus after a DD just rolls over your team, and Weavile sucks, replace him immediately. Try Mamoswine, Adamant Max Att Max HP 6 Speed, Ice Shard, Icicle Crash, EQ and SR. Replace Darmanitan for Magnezone (to trap steel types which makes it easier for Kingdra), run Jelli over Blastoise for a better fighting resist, and Crobat for Specially Defensice Skarm. Try that.
 
Thank you Dragone. "Weavile sucks" You must not play too much.. Weavile has sweeped many teams who are not ready for it. and like I said after one sword dance its game over unless u have a move like mach or bullet punch. and again.. if you manage to survive one of weaviles attacks, Bisharp does quick work with sucker punch.

So looking for some legit ratings and anything else u might see.
 
Blastoise is outclasses as a spinner by Starmie and Tentacruel. I really can't think of a situation where I'd rather have stoise than Cruel/starmie. Starmie can blow through most spin blockers, while Tentacruel has the ability to absorb toxic spikes, spin, and set up his own toxic spikes (effectively toxicing everything not immune to them). He can use scald to much the same effect as Blastoise and can use Hex to hit spin blockers super effectively (namely Jellicent) with a 100 BP move.
 
Toids however is more of a physical tank then starmie and tentacruel. I thought about using both of them. Starmie would give me much more cover via thunderbolt and possibly last a little longer too because of recover. But one crit would drop it easy. Toids however has stood the test of time and for some odd reason can keep coming back in again and again. Also as of late azmurial has been seen a lot in rain dance team spamming aqua jet with huge power and choice band. He can run though any team not prepared for that. Toids answers that problem. Being that the move isnt really effective even with the rain boost and choice boost. It takes 4 hits to kill it. And within that time I have the option to begin scalding or toxic which will force a switch.
 
toxic on a pokemon with a choice band is a very poor choice. im not thrilled with the whole crobat idea, but atm i cant find any glaring reason to change it, it does do a nice job countering fight types, but seriously dont use a status move on someone with a choice item, especially since blastoise provides toxic already. Im far from familiar with crobat's movepool, so maybe there really isnt a better coverage move, but if that is the case then it might be time to start rethinking either the set or the pokemon in general. thats all i got for now, plus im sure dragone will do a better job than i can helping you, GL!
 
wraiders11 said:
toxic on a pokemon with a choice band is a very poor choice. im not thrilled with the whole crobat idea, but atm i cant find any glaring reason to change it, it does do a nice job countering fight types, but seriously dont use a status move on someone with a choice item, especially since blastoise provides toxic already. Im far from familiar with crobat's movepool, so maybe there really isnt a better coverage move, but if that is the case then it might be time to start rethinking either the set or the pokemon in general. thats all i got for now, plus im sure dragone will do a better job than i can helping you, GL!
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Thanks for the feedback bro! but Crobat spams and abuses Brave bird only. Toxic is just a slot holder.
 
xXkovuXx said:
Thanks for the feedback bro! but Crobat spams and abuses Brave bird only. Toxic is just a slot holder.
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yea i kinda get that, but i honestly think you should still put either Pursuit, Quick Attack, or Cross Poison instead of toxic, just incase you come across a pokemon who you need to hit with something else. Pursuit helps against fleeing psychics, but i think quick attack is the best best to help revenge kill boosted sweepers like Dragonite or Volcarona. I know you have Weavile and Bisharp for that but really, why not have Qucik Attack if you never use Toxic? One time it could save your ass, and thats one more time than toxic on Crobat has.
 
wraiders11 said:
yea i kinda get that, but i honestly think you should still put either Pursuit, Quick Attack, or Cross Poison instead of toxic, just incase you come across a pokemon who you need to hit with something else. Pursuit helps against fleeing psychics, but i think quick attack is the best best to help revenge kill boosted sweepers like Dragonite or Volcarona. I know you have Weavile and Bisharp for that but really, why not have Qucik Attack if you never use Toxic? One time it could save your ass, and thats one more time than toxic on Crobat has.
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True true. Ill throw it on. Any other comments other then little things?
 
xXkovuXx said:
True true. Ill throw it on. Any other comments other then little things?
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yes lol, i would definitly remove kingdra for several reasons (actually 2)
1. Kingdra is rather useless without rain support, so without rain (could be rain dance of its own) its not a great dragon choice.
2. you say that he works very well against rain teams, but that isnt nessecarily true and nearly every rain team makes use of some steel types that are relieved of their fire weakness, and thus kingdra will have a tough time sweeping rain teams full of scizor, forretress, and even worse, ferrothorn.

So i suggest replacing Kingdra with one of the Lati@s. The choice is up to your preference, but i would go with this:
Latios @ leftovers / Choice Specs
timid
252 Sp at / 252 Speed / 4 hp

Draco meteor
Surf
HP (fire)
Calm Mind / Trick

no thats not a typo, calm mind Latios is a huge threat as it can force a switch with its ground immunity and proceed to gain the attack boost of specs but with freedom of moves, but if you like instant power and ability to cripple walls with trick then use the Specs and trick
 
wraiders11 said:
yes lol, i would definitly remove kingdra for several reasons (actually 2)
1. Kingdra is rather useless without rain support, so without rain (could be rain dance of its own) its not a great dragon choice.
2. you say that he works very well against rain teams, but that isnt nessecarily true and nearly every rain team makes use of some steel types that are relieved of their fire weakness, and thus kingdra will have a tough time sweeping rain teams full of scizor, forretress, and even worse, ferrothorn.

So i suggest replacing Kingdra with one of the Lati@s. The choice is up to your preference, but i would go with this:
Latios @ leftovers / Choice Specs
timid
252 Sp at / 252 Speed / 4 hp

Draco meteor
Surf
HP (fire)
Calm Mind / Trick

no thats not a typo, calm mind Latios is a huge threat as it can force a switch with its ground immunity and proceed to gain the attack boost of specs but with freedom of moves, but if you like instant power and ability to cripple walls with trick then use the Specs and trick
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the common set up against my kingdra I have found is this... (in a rain situation)

Kingdra comes out...
Steel pokemon switches in (ferrothron)

Kingdra subs..
Ferro uses thunder wave... blocked by sub

Kingdra dragon dances
Ferro uses gyro ball (if lucky breaks sub. most cases 2 hits to break sub)

In the two hit case...

Kingdra dragon dances again.
Ferro uses gyro ball. sub broke

Kingdra uses water fall (this is running off of a 600 attack stat plus rain boost) This will 1hko to two hit ko. and lets not forget a possible flinch

after the steel type is down Im free to outrage through the team.


Anyways thats worst case situation. In anything else If im up in a rain team Ill save darmantion for later to handle the steel types that jump out at me. Crobat, blastoids, bisharp, and weavile can handle the water types with ease. Its all about what is thrown out there. I see your point in steel types create a problem. But a good player sees it coming and works around it.

The latias versions are amazing. I sadly dont have one and missed the chance in Heart Gold to pick on up. Im not a fan of hacking for pokemon either... so grabbing one of those wont really work but I deff see its uses.

Also addressing Kingdra out of rain... After one dragon dance it runs 400 speed... and around 400 attack.. I dont see how its useless and its got major resistance to many attacks...
 
Let me start by saying that Weavile is sexy and every team that needs a solid answer to Dragons should use it. You're using one. Awesome.

Anyway, while I have a bone to pick with several of your Pokemon, the only one that truly stands out as being in need of replacement is Bisharp. Having two Pokemon with a 4x weakness to Fighting is a very bad thing. I suggest changing it to a Scizor. Scizor only has one weakness that has a minimal effect on your team. It has better stats almost everywhere, more reliable priority, and the option of recovery (if you choose to go bulky). Additionally, it still fills the role of a bulky SDer that your Bisharp currently holds.

Here is a link to Scizor's analysis. I suggest you play around with it a bit and decide what it does best on your team.
 
Thanks bro Ill deff take a look at it and play around. He actually might be able to handle the Alakazam's that i found can be a problem. the combo on bisharp and weavile can bring one down.. I just hate losing a pokemon to deal with it. He also poses a problem for Crobat. and at times toids if its running energy ball. So this might work out being bug... but will see
 
This team is all UUs. Is there a reason?
In the UU environment, this team would perform very well. In OU, most of this is outclassed.
However, there is one thing. Replace either EQ or Superpower on Darmanitan with Rock Slide. The two provide redundant coverage, and Rock Slide is Sheer Force-boosted and hits Flying types like Dragonite or Mence.
Also, run Defiant on Bisharp, because people like to send Hitmontop in on it, and that'll give it +2 if it runs Intimidate.
 
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