Normal OU team‏

BirdBane7

Whimsicott @ Leftovers
252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Trait: Prankster
Nature: Impish
Giga Drain
Tailwind
Taunt
Cotton Guard / Leech Seed

Whimsicott's Prankster allows Taunt to go first in the first round, disabling any Trick Roomers to use their TR move. Tailwind then goes to double the team's speed, giving other pokemon an advantage. Cotton Guard can then go first in the next 2 rounds, giving Whimsicott maximum defence against the enemy. Then it can use Tailwind again when it peters out and use Giga Drain to defeat the Enemy.

Mienshao @ Wide Lens
Trait: Regenerator
Adamant Nature
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Fake Out
U-turn
Stone Edge
Hi Jump Kick

Fake Out is really useful for stopping status moves like TR or SR or Spikes etc. Then on the next turn you can defeat them or switch them out as to your own choosing. U-turn is good against powerful Psychic types so you can switch out for another speedy pokemon who can defeat them. Stone Edge with a wide lens has a 1/100 chance of missing, so it can get rid of most powerful flying types like Staraptor or Aerodactyl. Hi jump Kick is mainly for STAB and also power and getting rid of threats such as Haxorus or Metagross.

Rotom Wash @ Choice Specs
252 SpA / 4 Spe / 252 SpD
Trait: Levitate
Mild Nature
Volt Switch
Hydro Pump
Hidden Power Ice
Will-O-Wisp

Volt Switch can be used against your opponent to switch out for another pokemon for a while, then when you feel that the time is right, switch Rotom back in again, negating the effect the choice specs have on your choice of move. Hydro pump is there because with Rotom-W, you have to have it and it's useful against possible ground-type threats such as Torterra or Seismitoad. HP ice deals with most threats like Torterra, Landorus and other grass types. WoW is for putting any other pokemon who are there to misery and helping defeat the team by burning it apart.

Hydreigon @ Life Orb
252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Trait: Levitate
Rash Nature
Surf
Dark Pulse
Draco Meteor
U-turn / Focus Blast

Well, Dark Pulse is good for possible threats like Reuniclus and Gothitelle, who can learn Focus Blast and is also good for STAB. Draco Meteor is good as well for STAB and dealing with threats like Latios/Latias, Haxorus and Kyurem. Surf is useful as it deals with pokemon such as Aerodactyl and Landorus. U-turn and Focus Blast are for your own choosing and can take out bulky Steel-types like Ferrothorn and Lucario, both of which could be a threat.

Virizion @ Focus Sash
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Trait: Justified
Nature: Brave
Sacred Sword
Leaf Blade
Stone Edge/X-Scissor
Swords Dance

Swords Dance as you know raises attack by h2 stages, which is great for powering up STAB moves like leaf blade and sacred sword and powerful moves like X-Scissor and Stone Edge (which one you have is your choice).
Leaf Blade is just a powerful move which is useful against powerful threats like Jellicent or Scrafty. Sacred Sword is good against Ice type threats like Cryogonal or Rotom-F. Stone Edge goes well with Focus Sash to get rid of any possible Flying type or Fire type threats.

Gengar @ Fighting Gem
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Modest
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Sludge Bomb
Thunderbolt

Shadow Ball is for STAB and for dealing with possible Psychic type threats like Gardevoir or Gallade and can deal with Whiscash well who can learn Zen Headbutt. Sludge Bomb can also deal with threats such as Exeggutor. Focus Blast is good against most Dark type threats like Hydreigon or Scrafty. And the remaining threats like Honchkrow and Skarmory who are just a pain can be taken out with Thunderbolt
 
Trick Room teams aren't that common nowhere days (9/9/11), and Figh't'ing gem is not a good idea on Gengar, rather a life orb, leftovers, choice specs, ghost gem, or focus sash. also, pain split should be somewhere
 
i honestly think pain split is a bad idea with my team so i havent put it up there. not many really use it. fighting gem gives better chance against special defending dark types. Life Orb i suppose is ok, but i already gave it to hydreigon. choice specs maybe and leftovers, but again they are already used. ghost gem i dont really need as i get STAB anyway, and ghost gem is just overkill
 
You really haven't explained the synergy in your team. It's extremely hard to rate, but I'll try my best with the pokemon you've given...

Whimsicott is best known as a Sub-Seeder. A set like this would be most helpful...

Whimsicott @ Leftovers
Trait: Prankster
Bold: 252 HP/252 Def/4 SpD
-Encore
-Leech Seed
-U-Turn
-Substitute
This is a set I would have picked out for your team. Leech Seed + Sub is an age-old combo, but extremely effective with Whimsicott, thanks to Prankster. Encore is useful in trapping an opponent into a particular move then either chasing them out or killing them off, allowing you to set up a Substitute when you switch Whimsicott in on a well-timed Swords Dance, or something like that. U-Turn is a rather unpicked option, but one that can help you gain momentum early on.
Mienshao's a good pick, but it would be better off with Focus Sash, and a Jolly nature. If you're scared of recoil, run Drain Punch instead.
Rotom-W is often best on a Scarf set, but if you think Hydreigon can fit that role better, keep the Specs. However, the nature would be best off as either Modest or Timid, to maximize effectiveness, and the EV spread of 4 HP/252 SpA/252 Spe. He also needs a set of Volt Switch/Hydro Pump/Thunderbolt/Trick. WoW on SpecsTom w/out Trick is just LOL.
Hydreigon is great as a Scarfed revenger if you opted to keep Rotom's Specs, and a set of Draco Meteor/Dark Pulse/U-Turn/Flamethrower. Flamethrower allows Hydreigon to destroy Ferrothorn on the switch-in, among other Steels like Forretress and Skarmory. U-Turn should be best because of the scouting potential of your team.
Virizion... Brave?! Make that Jolly, surely. The defense EVs should really be moved to HP, but that's just a nitpick. Stone Edge should really be best over X-Scissor due to the coverage Fighting/Rock have.
Gengar is quite clearly the special part of your main offensive sweeper core, so I would recommend a Sub set, either SubSplit with Sub/Pain Split/Shadow Ball/Focus Blast or a SubNosis set by replacing Pain Split with Hypnosis. Either way, you should have a Timid nature and Leftovers/Life Orb.
I hope you do well in how ever many years it takes for you to make a good team, and I wish you the best of luck in testing this one!
 
the thing is, i have tested this team already and it won. so thanks, but no thanks. im sticking with what i have already and if you dont like it, then thats tough. my hydreigon has higher special attack and pitiful attack, so revenge? no. and just stop being so blunt and cruel to people. you have a habit of thinking you are best when you arent. what was it with the TR team you used to have? you said no one would counter it and i kept saying someone would. then what happened? you went out in the first round. just think about that before you go to insult me or anyone again.
 
a) This is RMT: RATE MY TEAM. You don't want it rated, SAY SO.
b) Where did you test it? You don't have Pokemon Online, do you?
c) I didn't say Revenge on Hydreigon. Actually READ the set I suggested.
set of Draco Meteor/Dark Pulse/U-Turn/Flamethrower
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d) I'm not being cruel. I'm offering constructive criticism. If you don't want it, don't have a rage at me.
e) I never got out in the first round with a TR team.
f) I did not insult you. Read through my post again.
 
For me, this team is interesting, but take the criticism from Fantom0. I haven't seen you beat him ONCE. Even if he isn't the best, he is better than YOU.

Ok, for Whimsicott, Venomoth would sleep powder before wasting your tailwind away with double team. then, baton pass to Scizor, swords dance and the fun begins.

Alternatively, I could use Crustle to spikes, stealth rock and then sacrificially spam stone edge. Sure, I'll lose him, but the damage will have been done. The Hydreigon could cause trouble but, considering I'm monotyping with bug, a megahorn from Scolipede will hurt. A lot. Wash Rotom is nasty. If i'm not monotyping, then maybe you may have problems with the evilness that is tentacruel. then, a yanmega with whirlwind should aim to sacrificially aid Crustle, getting faster in the process, before baton-passing to... a volcarona! this superfast little insanely killy critter should ruin virizion with a well placed fire gem heat wave. of course, if stone edge getsthrough my plan could be ruined- this calls for perhaps a focus sash, perhaps.

Gengar with fight gem and focus blast? have you considered a spiritomb? this could easily get the better of him, especially with dark pulse, etc., as you don't have anything powerful enough to get rid of it quickly.

You have obviously considered again and again- but it has too many flaws to be very competitive. And for goodness' sake listen to the better people. I'm not the best here, but listen to all criticism and TAKE IT IN, don't shun it or you will LOSE. a lot.

I know you havent seen me play much, but it's because I take so long to make a proper, foolproof stategy and consider it fully. You should too if you want to win.
 
If you post a team, be open to criticism, don't bash on people if you don't think they're right, just say okay I'll test it out and move on. The whole point of posting a team here is because you think it could be better, they're trying to make it better. If you don't want it to be rated, don't post it. Simple as that.
 
sorry for the insults Fantom0. i wasnt really controlling what i said. Moving swiftly on. Elitode, taunt could whip out sleep powder as quick as anything, and it may not hit anyway. you then wouldnt be able to use baton pass either. I could then tailwind and then the turn after i could leech seed you, giving me some of the health back that you took in the turn i used tailwind. I was thinking of shoving a heat rotom in there with something like a choice specs, using volt switch on the first turn if i need to or then switching out anyway after a Toxic. Overheat could easily deal with Scizor and OHKO it more easily than it could OHKO rotom. I have considered a Gengar with focus blast. if you notice, the Focus Blast/Shadow Ball set means nothing is completely immune to G's attacks. Choice Scarf on Hydreigon may work, but i have honestly pitiful attack, so i put a surf in there instead. I can put a sash on Gengar, but there isn't really that much to OHKO it with. Thunderbolt was useful as i said, to take out annoying Flying types, like Honchkrow, who has enough attack and Sp. Atk to do some serious damage, maybe even an OHKO. Skarmory is just a real pain, so i guess Heat Rotom would be ideal with a Choice Specs and a set of Volt Switch/Overheat/HP Ice/ Trick and maybe a better coverage than Virizion, like Skarmory with Roar/SR/Spikes/Drill Peck with a Focus Sash
 
Then say you might want to change Rotom's form!

Yes, but neither is supereffective on Spiritomb.

a focus sash on Honchkrow, plus Hypnosis (I know it's not very accurate), Roost, a Focus sash and Dark pulse would probably screw up your Gengar, as it would survive the initial Thunderbolt, before maybe hypnosising or switching out. Or following up with a lethal Dark Pulse.

For hydreigon (maybe)/Mienshao is the comparatively lumbering Nidoqueen. Nidoqueen is resistent to all of Mienshao's attacks save for Fake out and can learn aerial ace (surprisingly). yes, I would take Skarmory over Virizion anyday, as a flying type could be a large thorn in the side of virizion, but not much can stop a Skarmory. For instance on my first battle with DL13 my skarmory was the only one left (if it wasn't for the Groudon my entire team would have survived).

Finally, my team is flexible. I would just bug buzz your Whimsicott to death. then sleep powder the next pokemon to come out and continue with my strategy.

Have you considered Chandelure? It is supereffective on 3 of your pokemon and I know, some are resilient to him, but a couple of turns and half your team could be dwon due to that really evil Sp.Atk.

Thank you for not ranting to me, I understand your team better now and no team is ever perfect (though it won't stop me from trying!)
 
gengar has high special attack and speed, more than honchkrow and more than enough to combat honch's pitiful defense stats of base 52, so thunderbolt would be enough to OHKO it. Spiritomb isnt a highly defensive and Shadow Ball from gengar would be enough. Skarmory isnt good with special defense either, so Heat Rotom would be able to OHKO it with Overheat. nidoqueen isnt that speedy or defensive, so a Surf from Hydreigon could OHKO it quite easily. focus sash on honchkrow maybe, but if thunderbolt paralysis, then it may not move. Whimsicott's taunt would easily deal with any problems from Status Moves. So venomoth would NOT sleep powder Whimsicott, or double team for that matter. Crustle would not use any status moves. nor would anyone i used Taunt against. Chandelure isnt the most powerful pokemon, and Hydreigon, Gengar, Mienshao and Virizion could all OHKO it with a number of different moves. and may i also add that all of the pokemon i said would be faster.
 
Elitode said:
Yes, but neither is supereffective on Spiritomb.
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Yes, that is really relevant...
Elitode said:
a focus sash on Honchkrow, plus Hypnosis (I know it's not very accurate), Roost, a Focus sash and Dark pulse would probably screw up your Gengar, as it would survive the initial Thunderbolt, before maybe hypnosising or switching out. Or following up with a lethal Dark Pulse.
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Rotom says hi
Elitode said:
For hydreigon (maybe)/Mienshao is the comparatively lumbering Nidoqueen. Nidoqueen is resistent to all of Mienshao's attacks save for Fake out and can learn aerial ace (surprisingly).
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The point of Mienshao is momentum. It doesn't take a lot to see that he uses a simple offensive core of Virizion and Gengar to sweep.
Elitode said:
yes, I would take Skarmory over Virizion anyday, as a flying type could be a large thorn in the side of virizion, but not much can stop a Skarmory. For instance on my first battle with DL13 my skarmory was the only one left (if it wasn't for the Groudon my entire team would have survived).
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On a team like this? Virizion does a much better job of its role than Skarm. Still, Scizor would fill the role better than Viriz, being more capable of a Swords Dance sweep, and having great type coverage with Gengar and Rotom-W.
Elitode said:
Finally, my team is flexible. I would just bug buzz your Whimsicott to death. then sleep powder the next pokemon to come out and continue with my strategy.
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Substitute + Leech Seed = FAIL. If you switch in a poke on Whim's Sub, you've almost guaranteed to lose a pokemon. Do some research.
Elitode said:
Have you considered Chandelure? It is supereffective on 3 of your pokemon and I know, some are resilient to him, but a couple of turns and half your team could be dwon due to that really evil Sp.Atk.
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Rotom-W says hi AGAIN.
 
LOL fantom0 just took apart Elitode's argument. AS for the team, put Life Orb on Gengar, and guessing from your posts you play with item clause. If so, give Hydreigon a Choice Scarf to revenge kill, and replace Surf with Flamethrower.
I suggest replacing Whimsicott for Deoxys-S with the following set:
Deoxys-S @ Focus Sash
240 HP, 16 Attack, 252 Speed
Adamant
Trait:Pressure
-Stealth Rock
-Spikes
-Taunt
-Superpower
This set gives you the entry hazards you don't have and that Gengar and Virizion desire. Also, with the given EVs, superpower OHKOs standard T-tar.
Sash makes it so you're basically guaranteed 1 layer of spikes + SR.
Also, on Rotom-W consider Trick over Will-O-Wisp. Trick can get rid of your Specs and cripple a pokemon and free up your moves. Will-O-Wisp is better used on a defensive Rotom-W, which you're clearly isn't.
 
Hi,

You could consider a Life Orb on Mienshao for the extra kick. Fake Out + U-Turn + Regenerator with LO is actually pretty good. This is great early-game, since Regenerator already heals a good amount of HP, LO is a great choice.

What's with Brave on Virizion? and a Sash? Residual Damage is everywhere dude. Brave = + Atk( good ) but - Spe( you are attempting to sweep ). Jolly is useful if you want to outspeed some stuff or if you want extra power, go for Adamant.

On your Gengar, Sludge Bomb there seems like a good choice. Alternate STAB move and coverage for Grass-types, but there are a lot of things that you could consider. Although Rain is everywhere, HP[Fire] is still a good choice. KOing Scizor and does a good amount of damage on Ferro.

Rock Polish Terrakion can go through this team late game. +2 Terrakion outspeeds every member on your team and can KO most of your pokemon with it's dual STAB. Close Combat dents Mienshao, Hydreigon, Rotom-W and Virizion hard while Stone Edge deals with your Whimsicott, Rotom-w and Gengar. Your only way of killing it is by Tailwind or by running a status move on Whimsicott.

That's pretty much it.
Good Luck!
 
There are two ways of countering RP Terra, as far as I can see.

1) Use bulky Rotom set. Remove Specs for Lefties and use a set of Will-o-Wisp/Thunderbolt/Hydro Pump/-Filler-. Without TrickSpecs, your ability against walls is lessened, but it seems Whimsicott has that covered.
2) SD Scizor > Virizion. Terra will not like a Tech Bullet Punch to the face, and can hardly do anything to bulky SD variants. It is also part of an effective offensive core you have of Gengar/Scizor/Rotom-W. So I would recommend that.
 
WoOoShoOo, +2 Virizion outspeeds +2 Terrakion having a higher base speed, Giving it a one-up advantage. Then there is the type advantage, giving it a 2-0 advantage over Terrakion. The focus sash is there in case any pokemon come along and use something like aerial ace.
Now im talking to the person called That Noob (putting it this way in case someone thinks its offensive)
Deoxys-S is a good idea, but a simple Taunt-Leech Seed from Whimsicott would outspeed Deoxys cos of Prankster. That leaves only Superpower, then i could switch in Gengar and Shadow ball Deoxys' butt off.
May i remind Fantom0, that Virizion can also use Swords Dance and with Stone Edge having a higher Critical hit ratio, Virizion can do some good amounts of damage with SE. Your Rotom-W set is actually a good one ad i was thinking that the filler could be Toxic or Sub or some other status move.
 
Umm, Viriz and Terra have the same base speed... and where did you get the +2 from?! Viriz doesn't have a speed raising move.
Anyway, the set for Scizor I would recommend is

Scizor @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Adamant: 252 HP/40 Atk/216 Spd
Trait: Technician
-Swords Dance
-Bullet Punch
-Bug Bite
-Brick Break/Roost
Fills a nice hole in your team, methinks.
 
My scizor set that i have is
Scizor
Technician
Quiet
Acrobatics
Double Hit
Swords Dance
Bullet Punch.

I have come across many people online over Pokemon Battle Rev who have whooped my butt with Scizor and Double Hit, so its in my set.
I havent chosen an item yet, but i was actually thinking of LO or lefties.
Fantom0, have you got nature modifier. Cos if you have, could i use it.
i dont know where i got the base speed thing from. anyway, in the turn that Terra uses Rock Polish, a powerful Leaf Blade could sweep him away, or a Viriz could use a Close Combat of his own. Deoxys' defenses are only mediocre, compared to some others. deoxys is good, but it can be KOed by so many pokemon that i could and most likely would go up against. so its a possibilty
 
That Scizor sucks. Clearly you want Adamant, and Double Hit/Acrobatics are useless when Bug Bite beats both of them BPwise, and then either Brick Break for coverage or Roost for setting up more stuff.
About Terra, what happens if it comes in on Rotom locked into HP? Then it will get a Rock Polish as you switch.
Deoxys-S is supposed to die. That's the definition of a suicide lead. But in its place are a ton of entry hazards. I wouldn't recommend it, though.
Also, could you put any changes you make into your 1st post please? It would make it easier to point anything else.
 
BirdBane7 said:
Whimsicott @ Leftovers
252 SpDef / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Trait: Prankster
Nature: Impish
Substitute
Encore
Taunt
Cotton Guard / Leech Seed

Whimsicott's Prankster allows Taunt to go first in the first round, disabling any Trick Roomers to use their TR move. Tailwind then goes to double the team's speed, giving other pokemon an advantage. Cotton Guard can then go first in the next 2 rounds, giving Whimsicott maximum defence against the enemy. Then it can use Tailwind again when it peters out and use Giga Drain to defeat the Enemy.

Mienshao @ Life Orb
Trait: Regenerator
Adamant Nature
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Fake Out
U-turn
Stone Edge
Hi Jump Kick

Fake Out is really useful for stopping status moves like TR or SR or Spikes etc. Then on the next turn you can defeat them or switch them out as to your own choosing. U-turn is good against powerful Psychic types so you can switch out for another speedy pokemon who can defeat them. Stone Edge with a wide lens has a 1/100 chance of missing, so it can get rid of most powerful flying types like Staraptor or Aerodactyl. Hi jump Kick is mainly for STAB and also power and getting rid of threats such as Haxorus or Metagross.

Rotom Wash @ Choice Specs
252 SpA / 4 Spe / 252 SpD
Trait: Levitate
Modest/Timid Nature
Volt Switch
Hydro Pump
Hidden Power Fire
Will-O-Wisp

Volt Switch can be used against your opponent to switch out for another pokemon for a while, then when you feel that the time is right, switch Rotom back in again, negating the effect the choice specs have on your choice of move. Hydro pump is there because with Rotom-W, you have to have it and it's useful against possible ground-type threats such as Torterra or Seismitoad. HP ice deals with most threats like Torterra, Landorus and other grass types. WoW is for putting any other pokemon who are there to misery and helping defeat the team by burning it apart.

Hydreigon @ Life Orb
252 SpA / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Trait: Levitate
Timid Nature
Surf
Dark Pulse
Draco Meteor
U-turn / Focus Blast

Well, Dark Pulse is good for possible threats like Reuniclus and Gothitelle, who can learn Focus Blast and is also good for STAB. Draco Meteor is good as well for STAB and dealing with threats like Latios/Latias, Haxorus and Kyurem. Surf is useful as it deals with pokemon such as Aerodactyl and Landorus. U-turn and Focus Blast are for your own choosing and can take out bulky Steel-types like Ferrothorn and Lucario, both of which could be a threat.

Virizion @ Focus Sash
252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Trait: Justified
Nature: Adamant/Jolly
Close Combat
Leaf Blade
Stone Edge/X-Scissor
Swords Dance

Swords Dance as you know raises attack by h2 stages, which is great for powering up STAB moves like leaf blade and sacred sword and powerful moves like X-Scissor and Stone Edge (which one you have is your choice).
Leaf Blade is just a powerful move which is useful against powerful threats like Jellicent or Scrafty. Sacred Sword is good against Ice type threats like Cryogonal or Rotom-F. Stone Edge goes well with Focus Sash to get rid of any possible Flying type or Fire type threats.

Gengar @ Life Orb
252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Trait: Levitate
Nature: Modest
Shadow Ball
Focus Blast
Disable/Pain Split
Substitute

Shadow Ball is for STAB and for dealing with possible Psychic type threats like Gardevoir or Gallade and can deal with Whiscash well who can learn Zen Headbutt. Sludge Bomb can also deal with threats such as Exeggutor. Focus Blast is good against most Dark type threats like Hydreigon or Scrafty. And the remaining threats like Honchkrow and Skarmory who are just a pain can be taken out with Thunderbolt
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Changes in bold.
 
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