ORAS UU np: Nobody Can Live Forever - A Mega-Beedrill Offense Team

[Malin]

Hello you all. I'm malinowski, I lurk over UU forum and PS! for over a year or so, and I'm going to present you what I think it is my most solid team in this post-Mega Pidgeot meta :] I've already done some RMTs but frankly they were all kind of bad :P so I ask to consider this the first real one n_n

I've been working on it since i signed for UU Open, and it actually won me r1. It is a team that does fairly well over ladder and have won me some room tours. I've already shared this team with a couple of guys who I think can atest how effective Mega Beedrill is in this tier :]

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teambuilding process

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So I started with a core of Mega Beedrill + Mowtow because I'm kind relaxed and I make some real bad plays trying to outpredict stuff and keep momentum, so I enjoy how easy it is to play a Volt Turn core since I can make bad plays and still be in the game :P Mega Beedrill has the most powerful U-turn in the game while Rotom-Mow is threating every water, ground and flying type with its STAB combination.

Since I was stacking a Fire weakness here, I added Special Salamence, which works as a wallbreaker, fire-resist and hazard control for Mega Beedrill.

Mega Aerodactyl was a massive threat for my team, so I added Doublade which can effectively check M-Aero and half of the tier lol while working as my first win condition.

Doublade has insane synergy with almost every Dark type in the tier, and with Salamence covering its fire weakness, I thought about Krookodile as the 5th member of the squad, which could add me an electric immunity, intimidate spam, rocks, knock off utility and a pursuit user.

My team was pretty solid offensively, but it didn't have any special sponge for powerful wallbreakers like Hydreigon, Salamence and stuff, which runs over this tier. One could think of Omfuga's P2, but I'm not really into one more eviolite user, so I added Snorlax, which can work early game as a sponge and late game as my secondary win condition, without worrying about Knock Off that much or losing too much offensive presence.

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in-depht

Queen B (Beedrill-Mega) (F) @ Beedrillite
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Poison Jab
- U-turn
- Drill Run
- Protect

The Queen of this show, Mega Beedrill is a massive threat, reaching a 438 Atk stat with an Adamant Nature, backed up with an Adaptability boost, and still being able to outspeed almost the entire non-scarfed tier. Threating every Psychic, Dark and Grass type in the tier, U-turn takes chunks even from checks like Forretress, Mega Aggron and Crobat, while Poison Jab threat every fairy. Adamant Drill Run have a solid 2HKO on Cobalion, which have been helpful against Shuca Berry switch ins :P Mega Beedrill is the ideal momentum grabber, and as such I chose to build around her.

Motor-Heat (Rotom-Mow) @ Life Orb/Choice Specs
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Pain Split/Trick

Mowtow is a great guy and has been my favorite grass type in UU for sometime. Grass/Electric is a great type offensively, since no ground type wanna switch into a Leaf Storm, which usually makes my opponent sack something or trying to predict me - either way, Mowtow is going to open holes, and momentum will continue to be on my side. At first I builded around Choice Specs, since it hits hard as fuck and in theory could effectively deal with the likes of Suicune. But a few problems started to appear: since Rotom-C didn't have any kind of recovery, it could be easily weakened until its dead, specially with rocks in the field and scald 100% chance to burn. It was my most solid bulky water answer, so I couldn't keep losing it to random burns. I was also tired of being outplayed between ground and Crobat switch ins, so after seeing DaSpoofy suggestion of Life Orb Rotom-Heat over UU forum, I decided to give LO Mowtow a try, and this set has been working great! Pain Split helps against walls like Umbreon and Blissey, since Rotom-C have a low HP stat. It also gives it a more longetivity against Suicune. With LO, I can volt switch on ground types without fear as I can bluff a choice item, specially if my opp doesn't see any passive recovery. The real MVP most of the time :P

Sally (Salamence) (F) @ Leftovers/Life Orb
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
- Fire Blast
- Defog

Pretty straightforward Special Defog Mence. At first I was using an LO set, but I don't like defoggers that lack some passive recovery, since taking 25% everytime you are switch in really sucks, specially if you are going to take a hit coming in. Defog was highly needed because it really cuts Mega Beedrill effectiveness, which is forcing switchs. Leftovers helps Sally with this a lot, as those 6% makes difference. Even without an Orb, Draco Meteor/Fire Blast hits hard enough for some wallbreaking.

Aegis'lash (Doublade) @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit/Shadow Claw/Sacred Sword
- Shadow Sneak
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance

Doublade acts as a physical tank, essentially checking Mega Aerodactyl and Crobat, two huge problems for this team otherwise. I opted for Iron Head over Gyro Ball for consistent damage. Gyro Ball needs 0 Spe IVs to work, but the 35 base speed helps outspeed some slower mons like Reuniclus and Slowking, specially if I'm running Shadow Claw on it. Shadow Sneak is priority STAB that helps against Chandelure, Hoopa and Azelf. Mega Aerodactyl, Crobat and opposing Mega Beedrill really holds this team effectiveness, so recently I'm trying Pursuit Doublade and it have been working great, doing about 60% to Mega Bee and 35% to both bat and aero. If rocks are up, my opp gets really pressured if he needs to bring those back to field. Swords Dance lets Doublade works as my win condition late game, specially with volt turn weakening my opponent early-mid game.

Krook O'Dyle (Krookodile) @ Earth Plate/Dread Plate
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Taunt/Pursuit

Taunt Rocks Krook is my favorite Krookodile and it really helps this team against some matchups. That unexpected taunt that stops a wall from recovering, a hazard setter from setting, a setup sweeper from setup, a toxic or a defog from happening - I really enjoy that moment. Krookodile setup rocks on his many forced switch ins, it takes opposing items off and since I'm running Pursuit on Doublade, I decided to switch Dread Plate for Earth Plate, which gives me a nice boost for Earthquake, making it an excelent STAB move that won't have any power drop against itemless mons. Krookodile also makes an excelent intimidate core with Salamence, and gives me a much needed volt switch immunity.

Snorhax (Snorlax) @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 144 HP / 188 Def / 176 SpD
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Snorlax is my special sponge, eating any unboosted special hit in the tier. With Thick Fat, Lax becomes a normal type with two key resistances for this team. It takes pressure from Salamence as an Entei switchin, and cover most of this team Ice weakness, which was something I desperately needed.
Body Slam' paralyze helps this entire team, since I lack any form of speed control. Even with Hoopa and Doublade around, mono attacking CurseLax is still Snorlax best set, and it works as my most solid win condition, being able to setup many times over a match.


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threats:

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Mamoswine: While it can't switch in any of my mons, I don't have any switch ins for this mammoth. I can handle it in most 1v1 scenarios, but I will end up seriously injuried, unless my opp plays bad and I manage to outpredict them.

Water-type Setup Sweepers: Setup Sweepers like DD Feraligatr and RD Mega Swampert are a really pain to deal with if they manage to setup, as I have no answers or phazers for it. If it happens to give them free turns, I'll have to sack something, usually Salamence and Krookodile, trying to spam some intimidates to hold their effectiveness.

Whimiscott: Encore + stuff like Stun Spore, U-turn, somekind of coverage in offensive builds, all gives my team trouble.

Fast powerful mons with/and priority: most mons sitting in base speed 108+ gives me some kind of trouble. Mega Houndoom will most likely get a kill everytime it comes in for example. Mega Absol also gives me trouble with SD + Sucker Punch + coverage being pretty deadly against my team.

Competitive and Defiant: lol srsly this ability just fuck me up, being it Milotic or Tornadus, I always get in trouble.

Others top tier threats like Suicune and Mega Aerodactyl are really painful to face, especially if my few checks are gone. While Roar Suicune isn't that difficult to deal since Lax wins in a last mon scenario, CM Cune can be a real problem if it manages to get to +2, since I have no way to phaze it.

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replays:

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g1 of UU Open R1 - http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-257545946
g3 - http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-257553531
a good replay I took over ladder which shows Pursuit Doublade and LO Pain Split Rotom-C working - http://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/uu-283599424

I'll add a few more later.

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I really enjoy this team. It's pretty good for those who just wanna have some fun, but it's also pretty competitive. I'm open for any suggestion and I really wanna hear what you may have to say n_n

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importable:

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Motor-Heat (Rotom-Mow) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Leaf Storm
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Pain Split

Queen B (Beedrill-Mega) (F) @ Beedrillite
Ability: Adaptability
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Poison Jab
- U-turn
- Drill Run
- Protect

Aegis'lash (Doublade) @ Eviolite
Ability: No Guard
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 240 HP / 252 Atk / 16 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Pursuit
- Shadow Sneak
- Iron Head
- Swords Dance

Krook O'Dyle (Krookodile) @ Earth Plate
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Knock Off
- Taunt

Snorhax (Snorlax) @ Leftovers
Ability: Thick Fat
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 144 HP / 188 Def / 176 SpD
Careful Nature
- Curse
- Body Slam
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Sally (Salamence) (F) @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Draco Meteor
- Roost
- Fire Blast
- Defog

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[CBU]

Friend I really like your team, even tho it is too ho for my personal taste...However i feel like you have trouble switchin into mega pert, especially under rain :/ ...But other than that i really like it ...Nice job :]

 

[feen]

Yoo nice team man. The only thing I'd like to change is the Salamence set to Fatmence because you're weak to Fighting types and most of them have Knock Off so Doublade isn't an option all the time.

Mence set

Salamence @ Leftovers
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 248 HP / 124 Def / 136 Spe
Timid Nature
- Roost
- Flamethrower
- Earthquake / Toxic / Dragon Pulse
- Defog

 

[Manipulative]

Hey, man! Really liking the team you've got there. Though, I noticed that this team is extremely weak to Mega Sharpedo. Well that and something like special HP Ice Infernape lol, but trying to prepare for that would probably be overkill, and potentially ruin the team in the process.

Anyways, what I was going to recommend was replacing Doublade with Porygon 2. This would still check the likes of Aero, Crobat, Sharpedo, and the countless other mons that just lose to this haha. There are clearly down sides to this change as well, such as losing a potential spin blocker and a solid answer to opposing Curselax, but I think those setbacks are more manageable compared to Sharpedo.

Porygon2 @ Eviolite
Ability: Trace
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 SpD
Bold Nature
- Tri Attack
- Ice Beam
- Thunder Wave
- Recover


The EVs are just off the top of my head. I'm not entirely sure what the standard distribution is haha, so feel free to mess around with it. Quite sure this is the ideal moveset though. Feel free to mess around with that as well. I'll be trying this team out with Porygon2 and get back to you with my thoughts.

Other than that, nice job and good luck!

Edit: Mamo is also a huge problem that gets semi-checked by P2 *_*

 

[nv]

Ok I love how this team is so standard! Congratulations on that malinowski lmao! Anyways, onto the rate!

• First off, right now Curselax is on the decline so I would suggest xVarsity's P2, but > Snorlax rather than Doublade. Doublade is still an amazing spinblocker, win condition, and has priority to bypass its slow speed. P2 still allows you to check the multitude of threats you say the team has a problem with such as MAero, Gatr, and Mamo thanks to cripple the former two with Thunder Wave and hitting the latter hard with STAB Tri Attack.
• While there are a lot of slashes, I feel like some of them are unnecessary. For example, Dread Plate Krookodile is easily its best set for a more powerful Knock Off even after a mon has lost its item as well as doing better with Pursuit trapping. Second, Sacred Sword on Doublade is amazing so that Doublade can check Curselax that run EQ or Crunch specifically for Doublade. Lastly, Life Orb is essential on Offensive Defog Mence so it can drop powerful Draco Meteors and bop Steel-types with Fire Blast.

Other than that, solid looking VoltTurn i.e. lazy offense team and hope you take into consideration my rate! :)

 

[Sacri']

Hey, pretty cool team you have there.

• Some strong physical attackers are a pretty big issue for this team, thats why I would like to suggest Swampert over Krookodile.

Swampert @ Leftovers
Ability: Damp
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 Def
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Scald
- Roar
- Earthquake

This thing helps a lot vs offense matchup as it allows you to keep Doublade healthy that way it doesnt get overwhelmed by the bunch of physical attackers of the tier. It's also a more solid SR user which has enough bulk to set up rocks more than one time. It can also be your last resort if you face sharpedo, you just have to keep it healthy and it shouldnt be too much of an issue. It can also switch once into Mamo which is cool.

Good luck with your team, always cool to see volt turn squads like this.

 

[Malin]

Thanks for your suggestion guys n_n

I'll definitely check some of your suggestions, especially Swampert + Porygon2 over Krookodile + Snorlax. Swampert being a solid phazer might really helps this team, while P2 is the universal counter for everything lol

About Dread Plate on Krook, I do agree that Pursuit + Dread Plate is its best set, but I think ppl underestimate the power of Earth Plate EQ, especially against the likes of Cunes, which my team can struggle against.



I updated OP with more threats, so don't forget to check it out n_n

 

[jjoshcja]

Welp, I was going to suggest pursuit on doublade to manage maero better but you already had it so +100 fonzy cool points.

As for the offensive setup/whimsicott issues, those somewhat revolve around lax and mence, both mon's really generate negative momentum and the team lacks a way to easily reset situations when at a disadvantage.

As for possible fixes to that problem, you can go ful blown volturn balance with the P2+pert suggestion, or you can pack a more offensive dedicated fire soak over lax + something like U turn mandibuzz (mandi fits nicely over mence here, it's general weaknesses are pretty easily covered by doublade mowtom and Mbee's existance)