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[FortColors]

It's not obvious when you two could be a scum team and fort is covering for you. So fort, in that case why would you blindly protect the same person twice in a row from attacks and role blocks?

Also I don't believe for a second that fort didn't realize that he was also protecting from inspects

You don't need to believe it. But it is true, so there's nothing either of us can do about it.
And I protected him because I thought he was town? He was the person most likely to be town from my POV, and from my experience scum like to kill active scumhunters.

You know the thing about lottery chances where you keep using the same number over and over? Same idea, except the odds were weighted in favor of lightwolf being targeted so it's even more effective than at the lottery.

In return, I have to ask you:
And why on Earth would I not protect my biggest townread?

 

[FortColors]

let me make that bigger:
And why on Earth would I not protect my biggest townread?
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[Former]

Because you could be dead wrong and handing victory to the mafia on a silver platter.

 

[FortColors]

so..... I should protect a scumread on the off chance that I'm dead wrong?
I'd rather have faith in my own reads tyvm.

It's not obvious when you two could be a scum team and fort is covering for you. So fort, in that case why would you blindly protect the same person twice in a row from attacks and role blocks?

oh and as I pointed out previously, if we were a scum team there would be absolutely no reason for me to reveal myself.
Lightwolf could've EASILY claimed commuter or ascetic or some other immune role, and that would've cast doubt upon the pubinspect and I would be under no suspicion

 

[Former]

Also I have more suspicions on you than anyone else because by a far margin you're acting more DLE like than anyone else here

In that, I have full confidence you can convincingly play town no matter what your alignment and you've been very good at deflecting any suspicion away from yourself on to someone else and so I find it natural to look at you closer than other players like Knights

 

[FortColors]

Also I have more suspicions on you than anyone else because by a far margin you're acting more DLE like than anyone else here

In that, I have full confidence you can convincingly play town no matter what your alignment and you've been very good at deflecting any suspicion away from yourself on to someone else and so I find it natural to look at you closer than other players like Knights

is this "you" me or lightwolf ;_;

honestly we should lynch someone who's almost certainly scum, such as moodycloud
I don't think I've cast my vote yet idt, but in case I have:

Unlynch
Lynch Moodycloud

 

[FortColors]

Just because there's other suspects out there doesn't make moody clean. If we have controversy over knights, we can look somewhere else.
Such as the guy who was saved by 2 mislynches in a row.

 

[Former]

Or protect more than one town read so that one person hasn't had invest immunity the whole game.

Also I don't see how your claim prevents that. If lw has a sort of night immunity and your both scum, lw could have the protection naturally and it gives you and easy claim, or probably more likely the scum have a safe guard to protect themselves from info roles and stuff

 

[FortColors]

I am actually far from desperate now that a bunch of suspects has appeared and discussion can finally move on from my case. I don't see how lynching martin is the play here as we still want to check lightwolf's claim and a few others. With no other mason claiming I guess aubisio is town then.
I have to go and can't be active today bye

He answered my last questioning with literally "yay we moved on so let's move on"
That's also a sign of deflecting suspicion

 

[Former]

You being lw

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Just because there's other suspects out there doesn't make moody clean. If we have controversy over knights, we can look somewhere else.
Such as the guy who was saved by 2 mislynches in a row.

If you believe that moody is scum then you want to be looking at me for starting his wagon and the late wagoners who jumped on to save him

cancerous On lynch: texas cloverleaf, martin, smashlloyd, former hope, Moodycloud

shubaka: On lynch: moody, martin, texas, phoenix, blazade, haruno

was checking back last night, phoenix/blazade/haruno were the swing votes on the last wagon that shifted the balance, haruno was a later vote than the other two, blazade was the hammer

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

You being lw

I'M SPARTACUS

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

If you believe that moody is scum then you want to be looking at me for starting his wagon and the late wagoners who jumped on to save him

cancerous On lynch: texas cloverleaf, martin, smashlloyd, former hope, Moodycloud

shubaka: On lynch: moody, martin, texas, phoenix, blazade, haruno

was checking back last night, phoenix/blazade/haruno were the swing votes on the last wagon that shifted the balance, haruno was a later vote than the other two, blazade was the hammer

starting his counterwagons*

 

[FortColors]

If you believe that moody is scum then you want to be looking at me for starting his wagon and the late wagoners who jumped on to save him

cancerous On lynch: texas cloverleaf, martin, smashlloyd, former hope, Moodycloud

shubaka: On lynch: moody, martin, texas, phoenix, blazade, haruno

was checking back last night, phoenix/blazade/haruno were the swing votes on the last wagon that shifted the balance, haruno was a later vote than the other two, blazade was the hammer

I find it amazing that he's been saved so many times in a row lol.
Even if we lynch you for starting the cancerous wagon or one of the swingers on the shubaka lynch, that still saves moody.
hilarity in a nutshell.

 

[FortColors]

At this point I almost read myself as a lyncher on moody rofl

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

I find it amazing that he's been saved so many times in a row lol.
Even if we lynch you for starting the cancerous wagon or one of the swingers on the shubaka lynch, that still saves moody.
hilarity in a nutshell.

I think it's unreasonable to assume someone is scum just because they were a wagon that was abandoned multiple times. Part of scum reading is adjusting your reads based on evidence. If you still think he's scum then wagon him sure, but don't use him being saved previously as sole justification for it.

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

That said, the lynch should almost certainly not move off Knights today

 

[Former]

What did moody do to get scum read again? Even just providing page numbers to go read up on would be nice

 

[Former]

Same question for Cydonia besides a funkier role claim that was contested

 

[FortColors]

Uhhhhhhhhhh day 2 had a lot about him in the middle, and day 3 also had stuff on him. lemme look for a few page numbers

The summation against moody is iirc: pushing bad logic + being desperately defensive but not having anything solid to back himself up

 

[Panic Station]

Texas Cloverleaf Re: 1124 You're assuming my playstyle is alignment indicative. I'm a very cautious and nonaggro player. I don't like gambits, I don't like crappy odds (even 50/50 leaves me a little leery), I don't like jumping into a tunnel or on a wagon with next to nothing to support it. So why are you accusing me based on what is par for the course for me?

 

[Panic Station]

Still catching up on the rest of it.

 

[Texas Cloverleaf]

Texas Cloverleaf Re: 1124 You're assuming my playstyle is alignment indicative.

I lol'd

 

[Panic Station]

Re: 1127 Didn't check the timestamps. Ew.

Even if this did jibe with this false expectation you've built about me, I was bending over backwards to contribute on demand before literally rushing out the door and ending up late anyway. You're putting me up on a pretty damn high pedestal just to knock me off it.

 

[Panic Station]

RE: 1137 You found my kryptonite for scumhunting. Tightlipped and nonpresent players sink my scumhunting attempts because how can I gather tells and follow the logic and evidence if I'm working with nothing?