OMG Its Another Sandstorm Team [OU RMT]

[CuddyBuddy]

SANDSTORM ALLSTARS

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As the title tells you, I have decided to make a sandstorm team. I was looking through the tiers list when I discovered Clefable. Clefable's Magic Guard and access to Cosmic Power inspired me to use it on a sandstorm team. Then also while I was looking through the tiers list I cam across cacturne and its wonderful ability (sand veil). So I thought to myself, why not use cacturne in OU?Then I found a lead, late game sweeper, and some pokes you see in every OU battle. Well that is the team building process. I hope you guys like it and I will enjoy reading all of your rates.
In Depth:

Reptar@Leftovers
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Sandstream
EV Spread:252hp/224spdef/34def
-Hidden Power [Grass]
-Earthquake
-StealthRock
-Crunch
Switch to Latias or Cacturne.
Switch to Latias
Switch to Scizor or Cacturne
Go to scizor
Ok I wanted to make this thing really annoying to take down so I changed the standard lead-tar set to this. The reason is because Adamant nature or not, I still have over 300 attack stat so it does damage without attack evs. Then i thought, "Swampert is gonna f**k me up!"....but i have hidden power grass so all is good. The defense evs help metagross' bullet punch and mash not ko me easily.Crunch is for STAB. Basically tyranitar's only job is to set up rocks and sandstream for the rest of my team.

Clefable@Leftovers
Nature:Calm
Ability:Magic Guard
EV Spread:252hp/46Defense/212spDef
-Wish
-Cosmic Power
-Seismic Toss
-IceBeam
Switch to Latias
Magic Guard on a sandstorm team...I love it. Basically with this little guy I will wish, then cosmic power wall. These are the standard evs for the stall set, but they should really think about "Wishful Walling" instead. Basically seismic toss and icebeam (or flamethrower) have great coverage. I will switch to a counter incase the super likely chance of a choice banded scizor. But yeah this set pretty much explains itself.

Scizor@ChoiceBand
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Technician
EV Spread:248HP/252atk/10speed
-BulletPunch
-Pursuit
-Superpower/BrickBreak
-U-turn
Switch to Latias
For some reason this guy is on every one of my teams and 90% of your teams (OU). Scizor acts as my scout and my priority attacker against Tyrnitar and frail fast pokes. I will also send him in on latias to either pursuit trap or uturn.I really do not know if I should have super power or brick break because when it comes down to the wire, I don't want an attack/defense fall. Well that about sums up Scizor.

Cacturne@LiechiBerry
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Sand Veil
EV Spread:252atk/252speed/6def
-Substitute
-SuckerPunch
-FocusPunch
-SeedBomb
Switch to Latias
Switch to Scizor
Evasion!!This is kinda a gimmick set. It allows me to evade a lot of attacks, sub, and punch the crap outta teams. With STAB sucker punch and seed bomb, along with a powerful focus punch, this thing will be hard to stop. Also Liechi berry allows me to increase my attack +1 after subs and sucker punch will do even more. That pretty much sums up why cacturne made the squad.

OR

Gliscor@Leftovers
Nature:Jolly
Ability:Sandveil
EV Spread:252HP/40Defense/218Spd
-Taunt
-Roost
-Earthquake
-Uturn

This set helps taunt sweepers trying to set up. It also acts as my second scout next to Scizor. This defensive gliscor gives me another fighting resistance so that I can switch from Clefable to gliscor the moment I suspect a close combat.
Switch to Scizor or Metagross

Latias@LifeOrb
Nature:Timid
Ability:Levitate
EV Spread:252spa/252speed/6def
-DragonPulse
-Surf
-Thunderbolt
-Recover
Switch to Clefable
Switch to Scizor.
Switch to Scizor or Metagross
LifeOrb+3 attacks. This set gives me alot of coverage. I fell in love with the specs latias, but being locked into a move isnt very cool when you could use 3. Recover is to heal off orb and storm damage. Latias isnt very weak to stealth rock so thats a plus. I will switch to this thing the moment I suspect and earthquake. I am debating whether or not to replace grass knot with tbolt. As you can see, latias covers a lot of weaknesses on my team. It is the gkue to my team.

Metagross@LumBerry
Nature:Adamant
Ability:Clear Body
EV Spread:114 HP / 252 Atk / 12 Def / 132 Spe
-RockPolish
-MeteorMash
-Earthquake
-Thunderpunch
Switch to Latias
Switch to Latias
Agiligross, meet Polishgross is my late game sweeper. Rockpolish makes me faster then just about everything. I chose polish just to be different but get the same result. With a 405 attacking stat, this thing will tear through some teams with ease.

A MAJOR THREAT:

Dragon Dance Gyarados can be a real problem seeing as how one of its moves is x2 to everyone of my pokes except scizor and clefable. As of now, Clefable is the only thing capable of stoping this.​

LEAD COMPARISON:

I would set up stealth rocks then switch to Cacturne for a sub incase of explosion.

Expect to get taunted so then I would Crunch.

Expect to get tricked or Uturned so I would switch to latias.

I would use hidden power grass so that it cannot set up rocks and it would OHKO.

Expect to get taunted so I would crunch.

Switch to latias then surf because sandstorm broke its focus sash.

Set up rocks and then crunch for a chance to lower defense.

Set up rocks and then crunch because I know it will either dual screen and/or explode.

Set up rocks then switch to clefable to set up cosmic power. (Not sure in this situation so Id just play through it)

Stealth rock and then earthquake.​

One Last Look

Thank you all for reading and posting room for improvement. I will be adding a weakness chart later, but I am just too tire to do it at the moment.After reviewing the team, Dragon Dance Gyarados may be a problem so a suggestion to stop gyarados would be great.​

 

[Marvin10]

I think you have too much that relies on Latias, as much of your synergy depends on it. And the Latias isnt bulky, but is Life Orbed. That means even if you come in on a Fire Blast from a Life Orb Heatran, it will do around 35%. Then you would have to kill it, losing another 10% and then sand hits for 6%. Right there you've lost over half of your health. A well played Scizor would go to work on that

I suggest replacing Cacturne with something like a Gliscor or Lucario, as this would cut down on the need to switch in to Latias to take all of the blows.

Hope this helps :P

 

[Abutorn]

Hey Cuddy, you have cool team here I think it needs a rate though.

Currently you have 3 pokemon weak to Bug, Fire, and Fighting one pokemon is adding all these weaknesses and doesn't have synergy in your team to be honest, But lets start the rate.

Tyranitar: One of the best leads for a sandstorm team. You said that you didn't want to standard Ttar set which is odd. Because the Standard TTar lead set is also hard to take down, and it also provides rest. So here's the EVs I think you should be using it's really annoying to take down also: 252 HP / 32 Atk / 224 SpD. Plus the moveset isn't really the best that you have at the moment you definitly need to change it because HP Grass won't do anything to Swampert plus when you have a adamant nature It surely won't do anything. So here's the moveset you might want to try Low Kick, Payback, Rest, Stealth rock. Low Kick is for TTar or other tran leads, and then Payback is just to hit azelf and other leads pretty hard since it's stab. Rest is to regain everything back, and also you might want to change the item into chesto berry to get the wake up right away because Leftovers isn't going to help you that much. Lastly Stealth Rock is pretty self explanatory.

Clefable: It's a odd pokemon to use in OU, but it is reasonable to use it in a sandstorm team due to its ability. But I don't think you can do much because you can get critted or phazed away so you won't be able to setup your cosmic powers. Also that set gets totally walled by a taunter, or Gyarados which you're awfully afraid of. So I think you should change this pokemon It doesn't look like much use to your team, so you want to change it to a popular wisher in OU and also something that counters Gyarados very well is Vaporeon. I'm 100% sure this pokemon will take care of your gyarados problem that you're so angry and scared of. Here's the moveset and EVs:

Vaporeon@ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Moveset: Wish l Surf l Protect l HP Electric

Wish is to also not recover Vaporeons HP but also other pokemon, Protect is self-explanatory. The other thing is HP Electric is for any other water types or in your case Gyarados, it won't OHKO but it'll definitly dish it out to not touch your team at all.

Scizor: Looks completly fine in your team, doesn't look like you need to change anything for this certain pokemon.

Cacturne: I like this pokemon it can do decently in sandstorm if you have pokemon that could work around it, but in your case you don't as I said above you have a pokemon that's adding the Third weakness to these 3 types: Bug, Fighting, and Fire. So I don't think this pokemon helped you at all. So I think a pokemon that fits a sand storm team fairly well and also has sand veil is Gliscor. Gliscor looks like it might have a good synergy with your team because it's going to take some attacks that are all thrown at Latias which is what you written above. So the best set on Gliscor that I think works for you is the stall breaker.

Gliscor@ Leftovers
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe
Moveset: Earthquake l Taunt l Roost l Uturn or Toxic

Earthquake is simple stab move for Ttar and lukes, and everything else. Taunt is to stop Skarmory or Forretress from setting up. Roost is just to recover every piece of hit point that you lost, if you lost anything, the last is Toxic or Uturn, Toxic is for just ToxiStalling a pokemon that you might find annoying which works perfectly in your team, UTurn is just to get out simple and Uturn out from Celebi or Cressila, any of those types of pokemon, but it doesn't look like your team might have a problem with those pokemon due to Tyranitar.

Latias: Probably want to change this into Choice scarf since you might have Salamence problems from the looks of your team so if it has one DD Latias can go for the draco meteor and destroy it, same for other types of dragon dancers. So the only thing you might want to change is the moveset so...

Moveset:
Draco Meteor l Surf l Thunderbolt l Trick

Metagross: Something minor you'd might want to change is take out Lum berry and put Life orb because it won't be doing a lot of damage.

Good luck on the team in the future, hope my analysis helped.

 

[CuddyBuddy]

Hey Cuddy, you have cool team here I think it needs a rate though.

Currently you have 3 pokemon weak to Bug, Fire, and Fighting one pokemon is adding all these weaknesses and doesn't have synergy in your team to be honest, But lets start the rate.

Tyranitar: One of the best leads for a sandstorm team. You said that you didn't want to standard Ttar set which is odd. Because the Standard TTar lead set is also hard to take down, and it also provides rest. So here's the EVs I think you should be using it's really annoying to take down also: 252 HP / 32 Atk / 224 SpD. Plus the moveset isn't really the best that you have at the moment you definitly need to change it because HP Grass won't do anything to Swampert plus when you have a adamant nature It surely won't do anything. So here's the moveset you might want to try Low Kick, Payback, Rest, Stealth rock. Low Kick is for TTar or other tran leads, and then Payback is just to hit azelf and other leads pretty hard since it's stab. Rest is to regain everything back, and also you might want to change the item into chesto berry to get the wake up right away because Leftovers isn't going to help you that much. Lastly Stealth Rock is pretty self explanatory.

Clefable: It's a odd pokemon to use in OU, but it is reasonable to use it in a sandstorm team due to its ability. But I don't think you can do much because you can get critted or phazed away so you won't be able to setup your cosmic powers. Also that set gets totally walled by a taunter, or Gyarados which you're awfully afraid of. So I think you should change this pokemon It doesn't look like much use to your team, so you want to change it to a popular wisher in OU and also something that counters Gyarados very well is Vaporeon. I'm 100% sure this pokemon will take care of your gyarados problem that you're so angry and scared of. Here's the moveset and EVs:

Vaporeon@ Leftovers
Nature: Bold
EVs: 188 HP / 252 Def / 68 Spe
Moveset: Wish l Surf l Protect l HP Electric

Wish is to also not recover Vaporeons HP but also other pokemon, Protect is self-explanatory. The other thing is HP Electric is for any other water types or in your case Gyarados, it won't OHKO but it'll definitly dish it out to not touch your team at all.

Scizor: Looks completly fine in your team, doesn't look like you need to change anything for this certain pokemon.

Cacturne: I like this pokemon it can do decently in sandstorm if you have pokemon that could work around it, but in your case you don't as I said above you have a pokemon that's adding the Third weakness to these 3 types: Bug, Fighting, and Fire. So I don't think this pokemon helped you at all. So I think a pokemon that fits a sand storm team fairly well and also has sand veil is Gliscor. Gliscor looks like it might have a good synergy with your team because it's going to take some attacks that are all thrown at Latias which is what you written above. So the best set on Gliscor that I think works for you is the stall breaker.

Gliscor@ Leftovers
Nature: Jolly
EVs: 252 HP / 40 Def / 216 Spe
Moveset: Earthquake l Taunt l Roost l Uturn or Toxic

Earthquake is simple stab move for Ttar and lukes, and everything else. Taunt is to stop Skarmory or Forretress from setting up. Roost is just to recover every piece of hit point that you lost, if you lost anything, the last is Toxic or Uturn, Toxic is for just ToxiStalling a pokemon that you might find annoying which works perfectly in your team, UTurn is just to get out simple and Uturn out from Celebi or Cressila, any of those types of pokemon, but it doesn't look like your team might have a problem with those pokemon due to Tyranitar.

Latias: Probably want to change this into Choice scarf since you might have Salamence problems from the looks of your team so if it has one DD Latias can go for the draco meteor and destroy it, same for other types of dragon dancers. So the only thing you might want to change is the moveset so...

Moveset:
Draco Meteor l Surf l Thunderbolt l Trick

Metagross: Something minor you'd might want to change is take out Lum berry and put Life orb because it won't be doing a lot of damage.

Good luck on the team in the future, hope my analysis helped.

Ok thanks man. I will try taking cacturne out and add gliscor to get rid of the many weaknesses that latias fills. As for vaporeon, I will test it and Clefable and see what works well. If I see a taunt coming, I can always switch to Scizor then scout with uturn or attack.If I change to 34 special attack EVs on tyranitar, will that give hidden power grass enough to take down Swampert?

 

[Abutorn]

Ok thanks man. I will try taking cacturne out and add gliscor to get rid of the many weaknesses that latias fills. As for vaporeon, I will test it and Clefable and see what works well. If I see a taunt coming, I can always switch to Scizor then scout with uturn or attack.If I change to 34 special attack EVs on tyranitar, will that give hidden power grass enough to take down Swampert?

Nope, you need a lot, you might need to add as much Sp.attack to figure out, for example Heatran with timid nature and max sp.attack only does 75%-90% never OHKOs. You don't have a problem with swampert though, you have vaporeon which can outstall swampert anytime, also you have latias which could take both of its stab moves. Just take my opinon you wouldn't want to replace TTars current moveset I told you about, because it's not worth it just to change your whole moveset to try to take down one pokemon.

Good luck again.

 

[Phantom_IV]

I like Clefable and all, but currently you have only 1 fighting resist, and Clefable just screams for something to switch in and CC it. Additionally, your one fighting resist is a relatively frail LO sweeper.

Two, your moves against common leads are terrible. Crunch does nearly nothing to hippo, switching Latias into Jirachi gives you a dead Latias, switching against ninjask lets it setup and sweep your team (Clefable can't stand up to +6/+6 Luke or Metagross), Cacturne is OHKO'ed by Meteor Mash.

You realize Cacturne doesn't resist steel, yes? It's listed as a switch-in for steel type attacks, but is OHKO'ed by most any steel attack you'd switch into.

Edit: Something that's fun is a Lv 2 Endeavor Clefable. Note that I said fun, not competitive. But take a look at it. It's always interesting to see one and it's a great concept poke. You can find it under the Clefable analysis.

Edit Edit: Okay, I'm biased about Lv 2 Clefable. I wrote that set.

 

[CuddyBuddy]

I like Clefable and all, but currently you have only 1 fighting resist, and Clefable just screams for something to switch in and CC it. Additionally, your one fighting resist is a relatively frail LO sweeper.

Two, your moves against common leads are terrible. Crunch does nearly nothing to hippo, switching Latias into Jirachi gives you a dead Latias, switching against ninjask lets it setup and sweep your team (Clefable can't stand up to +6/+6 Luke or Metagross), Cacturne is OHKO'ed by Meteor Mash.

You realize Cacturne doesn't resist steel, yes? It's listed as a switch-in for steel type attacks, but is OHKO'ed by most any steel attack you'd switch into.

Edit: Something that's fun is a Lv 2 Endeavor Clefable. Note that I said fun, not competitive. But take a look at it. It's always interesting to see one and it's a great concept poke. You can find it under the Clefable analysis.

Edit Edit: Okay, I'm biased about Lv 2 Clefable. I wrote that set.

Ok phantom thanks for you advice. I am thinking of switching Cacturne with Gliscor. I have edited my original post to show the set.

 

[MetaGross66]

I suggest you use Gliscor over Cacturne, as it can really help take those fighting attacks. Have you thought of trying out Cradily or Regirock? They're both amazing in the sandstorm as well.

 

[CuddyBuddy]

Ok thanks. I plan on switching gliscor in for caturne for another fighting resistance. Any other suggestions?