OMPL IX - Commince meat (Fin)

[hayedenn]

tox's guide to not fucking up your nfe draft

listen, look. I've had a long day at work and I'm tired. and you know what i want to do when that happens? cause controversy, so here i am giving u all free guide on how to not fuck up your nfe draft. i understand my opinion isn't gospel or anything but id like to think I'm pretty smart and intelligent when it comes to the nfe community, and someone who is actually knowledgable enough to put together a solid nfe draft

these rankings are not in any particular order btw within the categories

These People Can Build AND Play
Jett - not seen a lot of recent competitive play from them but they're competent

Shing n' Streets - Look, I really don't like Shing's teams, but he is a solid player and can actually build for himself

ojr - Some of his teams are awful (that spdef lairon team was not good even if it was clever and funny) but I think ojr is a solid player and solid builder. I think he's much better with support (idk how much help he's gotten from strap and marj but whatever is going on there it's working cus he's 3-1 in UMPL)

Ho3n - Really solid player, some of his teams are qUiRkY for no reason but like they work and he's successful (please never touch Stunky again)

Rav3ndan - Very solid builder, very solid player. I don't think he's like top top tier but I don't see any scenario where he doesn't at least go evens. Honestly if RNG went in his favor this UMPL he'd be 4-0

Skysolo - Easy top top top NFE player rn, great, interesting builds, great player. Can't go wrong. Idk if they’re a fully independent builder but with support they’re basically a guaranteed W

Hys - I have no idea where Hys stands on starting in NFE this tournament but they are very self sufficient from what I've seen. Builds their own teams, plays well, won No Titans recently. They are tox approved despite them never responding to messages

These People Can PLAY but are sus on building
lepton - I think lepton is a really solid player, but I think they get in their own way in terms of their mindset and they aren't a great builder. We've seen them have success this UMPL with Greybaum buildings teams for them but I think they have a tendency to be streaky and inconsistent and negative. A solid sub and they can also play other OMs

tlenit - Has a tendency to reuse teams and they haven't been able to prove to me imo that they can build their own NFE teams. However, if u pair them with someone like 85percent I think tlenit can be successful and win games.

leo - look, playoffs leo is the goat i get it. still not convinced he's very in the loop in NFE and his past tour results this year have been shaky. probably a decent sub but eh. his teams have been kinda shoddy and while they've gotten better, still not convinced

These People Can BUILD BUT they arent gonna play
Marjane / 85 - Both really solid builders (85 goat) but I wouldn't trust these people to start. Not cus they're bad, but cus I don't think they're really interested in starting (Marj can correct me if I'm wrong tho). Good support though and probably won't break the budget.​

 

[ojr]

TIER LIST OF NFE PLAYER TIER LISTS HERE WE GO

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-Strap

something as simple as effective as the -Strap is a piece of art and deserves its spot in S tier
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Who deleted my post, show yourself. Strap will have his way with you

strap but with extra text, less simple same amount of effect still a great piece of work but not as good as his first post.

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in the hills' Jett's OMPL Player Guide
sup i wrote this before after i decided to sign up and before after player signups went up at all but here's my take on all of the tier's player pools except for NFE Almost Any Ability, Balanced Hackmons, Camomons, Mix and Mega, and STABmons bc idk real tiers OMs. Not going to do direct rankings bc i don't think we've had a good enough set of tours lately to really have definitive ranks for most tiers want to offend anyone (I probably have anyways), but i'll be doing tiers based on the roles I think they should be drafted for.
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NOTE: None of these ranks are ordered within their tiers. Also I'll be putting a * on people's names who have not signed up at the time of my post. I also left myself off these rankings.
NFE
Managers who might play this tier: Honestly doubt any would start here but stresh and Drago can fill in or play tiebreak if necessary
Top/Starter:
aesf*: sike you thought, probably would play in another slot if he were to signup.
Skysolo: aka Strap. I know I said I wouldn't rank but Skysolo would be my personal best NFE player leading up to OMPL having really strong performances in both WCoOMs and UMPL, going 3-0 and 3-1 respectively. Very solid player who brings interesting builds.
tlenit: Great player who made it all the way to the finals of NFE Open. I believe he was using 85's teams for this tournament so not sure how independent he is, but I have no doubt he'd be able to build for himself given a bit of time if he isn't already during UMPL.
S1nn0hC0nfirm3d: aka Ho3nConfirm3d had a shaky performance in last OMPL, but he's definitely stepped up a lot since then and been far more consistent especially since the release of DLC 2. He won the initial Crown Tundra tournament, was positive in WCoOMs, and is currently 3-1 in UMPL as well so I have no doubt he'll do better this time around.
King Leo V (playoffs): King Leo V in playoffs doesn't lose.
(stresh)

Mid/Starter:
Greybaum*: Pretty solid player and builder (doing both for his team in UMPL at the moment) but not sure if he wants to play NFE this time around or whether he'll sign up for this at all. Definitely a solid pickup tho if he does and fwiw he is the only player to beat Skysolo over 2 team tours.
frisoeva*: Honestly, he seems a bit out of the loop at the moment and is not doing to hot in UMPL. Barely plays the metagame outside of team tours, but then again he didn't really play NFE before OMPL VIII and went 7-0 in the regular season (although the average skill level of NFE players has improved). However, with the right people *cough* jrdn *cough*, I think he'll be able to have great results and fit into Top/Starter instead.
ojr: Picked up NFE super quickly and has shown why he is a good player in UMPL, as he managed to beat stresh, and definitely should not be underestimated. Will mald vs sun teams however.
Rav3ndan: Been consistently solid for a while now and very much self sufficient. Would be worth considering a second player in cases where his schedule doesn't align with his opponent.
King Leo V (lost r1 of open, 1-3 UMPL, focussing on LC): "Don't bid more than 6k on me". Probably still decent tho despite his long list of excuses.
pileosand: A good player who has definitely been on the rise recently. Can definitely build on her own (such as in individuals) but I believe during team tours she normally gets passed teams/has building support.
professor tox: Another good player here who has performing pretty well recently. Just don't let him bring hail teams and they should be a pretty good pickup.

Low/Bench/Unsure
85percent: He strictly wants to build, but he builds very well, and I think pairing him with either a tour player or even a NFE player who isn't as good when it comes to building is a good idea.
Hys: Said they wouldn't wanna start, but is a pretty good player. Regardless a good builder since they managed to make Zap go 4-1 in a metagame they legit never played before LOL.
Shing'n Streets: Decent and lucky. Says long tours aren't for them but still signed up. Is a solid pickup regardless and will mega tryhard vs xavgb team.
Quagg*: aka quagsgone is a little rusty in SS NFE but was the goat during SM and is a good player in general.
Simbo: The return of the king. If you asked me a year ago, easily would have been in Mid or even High, but he's been a bit out of NFE for a while now. Probably a worthwhile sub tho.
Mamp: No idea how well they've been able to pick up NFE since they went inactive for a bit. Known to be a good player though and will likely be picked up anyways cause they are cool.
Monsareeasy: Doing pretty well in UMPL so far, and a decent player overall. Pretty sure 85 is his team support otherwise we may see some questionable teams based on his even more questionable metagame opinions given the fact he hasn't played much of this gen until recently.
(drago)

If I didn't mention you, that's your fault! Get better lol. Not jk or sorry if I forgot anyone because I'm not as nice as in the hills. (ok maybe I am a little sorry)

strap was mentioned so I had to rank it pretty high otherwise it has some mucho texto, dadc, didnt read lol energy. again strap carries this post so I had to rank it high

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I'm Bored so I decided to do a PR for NFE. aka
in the hills' King Leo V's OMPL Player Guide

NFE:
This ranking is Strictly ordered with some players rated at the same level. I tried to guess a price range where they end up in the draft as well so the managers can plan their draft accordingly. (OFC we might see significant changes to this).

#1:
Skysolo: (16-18k) aka Strap.
It should be pretty clear to people that if a really good player decides to actually play NFE, they would end up being really good at it and Skysolo is a clear example of that. Clear first pick for OMPL for me similar to Jett.

#2:
S1nn0hC0nfirm3d: (14-16k)
Does not really need any intro. Has been solid at the tier for a while and consistently.
#2:
Jett: (14-16k)
Yes I know I know it's supposed to be #. But it would be unfair to rank Jett lower. Personally, I think both of them have a similar caliber and would and should go for a similar price too.

#3:
tlenit: (10-12k) Great player who made it all the way to the finals of the NFE Open. I believe he was using 85's teams for this tournament so not sure how independent he is, but I have no doubt he'd be able to build for himself given a bit of time if he isn't already during UMPL. (Jett).
#3:
Ojr: (10-12k) My personal favorite pick of the tour. Might end up cheaper than the picks above but I have confidence that he can end up at least with a positive record in the tour. BEAT FRISO AND XAVGB in UMPL. That should talk for itself. (3-1 in UMPL).

#4:
Mamp: (8k-11k)
No idea how well they've been able to pick up NFE since they went inactive for a bit. Known to be a good player though and will likely be picked up anyways cause they are cool. (Jett).
#4:
Professor Tox: (6k-8k)
A good player can probably start too. If you cannot tolerate a bit of annoying though stay away. (3-1 in UMPL).
#4:
Monsareeasy: (6k-8k)
Has a weird take on the tier but is an alright pick, it's better to have a backup player though to correct him in case he goes nuts with his takes. (3-1 in UMPL).
#4:
Rav3dan: (6k-8k)
Plays with solid builds and does not make a lot of mistakes. Good temperament so always a good teammate to have.
#4:
Shing'nSheets: (6k-8k)
Huge tryhard so if you get him for cheap is a good pick. Don't expect him to do insanely good but can manage to put up a fight against most of the players.
#4:
Pileosand/lepton: (5k-7k)
Step 1 to competitive pokemon.. believe in yourself. Has a decent ability to play but has serious issues when it comes to self-confidence. I believe it is seriously holding her back from going big. But getting picked and self-confidence are kinda correlated so maybe this is her breakthrough? We'll see.

Support/potential sub:
85percent: (6k-8k)
Although they would not start Solid builder, personally one of my favorite. If paired with tlenit/arctic/Ojr or maybe even MAMP/ other tour players, might be very effective.
Hys: (3k-5k)
Solid builder and player too, who is worth pairing up with anyone who needs support.

Note: Depending on how the draft goes based on nomming some of the #4 players can end up cheaper than they are worth(3k -6k).

same as jetts post but with less text so thats a good thing. so now you might be wondering why is it lower then? leo decided to do a serious crime and spell ojr as Ojr. HUGE MISTAKE

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tox's guide to not fucking up your nfe draft

listen, look. I've had a long day at work and I'm tired. and you know what i want to do when that happens? cause controversy, so here i am giving u all free guide on how to not fuck up your nfe draft. i understand my opinion isn't gospel or anything but id like to think I'm pretty smart and intelligent when it comes to the nfe community, and someone who is actually knowledgable enough to put together a solid nfe draft

these rankings are not in any particular order btw within the categories

These People Can Build AND Play
Jett - not seen a lot of recent competitive play from them but they're competent

Shing n' Streets - Look, I really don't like Shing's teams, but he is a solid player and can actually build for himself

ojr - Some of his teams are awful (that spdef lairon team was not good even if it was clever and funny) but I think ojr is a solid player and solid builder. I think he's much better with support (idk how much help he's gotten from strap and marj but whatever is going on there it's working cus he's 3-1 in UMPL)

Ho3n - Really solid player, some of his teams are qUiRkY for no reason but like they work and he's successful (please never touch Stunky again)

Rav3ndan - Very solid builder, very solid player. I don't think he's like top top tier but I don't see any scenario where he doesn't at least go evens. Honestly if RNG went in his favor this UMPL he'd be 4-0

Skysolo - Easy top top top NFE player rn, great, interesting builds, great player. Can't go wrong. Idk if they’re a fully independent builder but with support they’re basically a guaranteed W

Hys - I have no idea where Hys stands on starting in NFE this tournament but they are very self sufficient from what I've seen. Builds their own teams, plays well, won No Titans recently. They are tox approved despite them never responding to messages

These People Can PLAY but are sus on building
lepton - I think lepton is a really solid player, but I think they get in their own way in terms of their mindset and they aren't a great builder. We've seen them have success this UMPL with Greybaum buildings teams for them but I think they have a tendency to be streaky and inconsistent and negative. A solid sub and they can also play other OMs

tlenit - Has a tendency to reuse teams and they haven't been able to prove to me imo that they can build their own NFE teams. However, if u pair them with someone like 85percent I think tlenit can be successful and win games.

leo - look, playoffs leo is the goat i get it. still not convinced he's very in the loop in NFE and his past tour results this year have been shaky. probably a decent sub but eh. his teams have been kinda shoddy and while they've gotten better, still not convinced

These People Can BUILD BUT they arent gonna play
Marjane / 85 - Both really solid builders (85 goat) but I wouldn't trust these people to start. Not cus they're bad, but cus I don't think they're really interested in starting (Marj can correct me if I'm wrong tho). Good support though and probably won't break the budget.​

did manage to spell ojr correct but there is a certain lack of strap energy from this post

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in the hills' OMPL Player Guide
sup i wrote this before i decided to sign up and before player signups went up at all but here's my take on all of the tier's player pools except for NFE bc idk real tiers. Not going to do direct rankings bc i don't think we've had a good enough set of tours lately to really have definitive ranks for most tiers, but i'll be doing tiers based on the roles I think they should be drafted for.
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NOTE: None of these ranks are ordered within their tiers. Also I'll be putting a * on people's names who have not signed up at the time of my post.
Almost Any Ability
Managers who might play this tier: Dragonillis, stresh, jrdn, The Number Man, rozes, Racool
Top/Starter:
Quantum Tesseract: QT plays most of these tiers and is good at all of them so good luck actually purchasing him but if you do then he'll be valuable support and mentioned that they are very eager to build for every tier on a team with only tours players ;)
LBDC: LBDC is really solid and a great presence who has experience in team tours and singles playing AAA.
aesf*: if aesf signs up this year can we promise not to let him go for literally no money lmao he always is such a fucking steal despite piecing up the whole player pool
Sabella/Booty*: Kinda surprised they haven't signed up yet, sab has historically been pretty solid in AAA and are always a safe pick.
Atha: Atha is pretty vocal in the AAA and French community so they'll probably go for a lot. AAA Open winner
Sylveon: Would be better off in Camomons probably, but can also stop by to beat anyone in this pool if he wants to
(rozes, stresh, jrdn, Racool)

Mid
Flaming Victini*: Dear god please Catalystic get FV to sign up please please please
Hamhamhamhamham*: Another surprising no-show so far, Ham is amazing but they are Mid rank bc managers need to be warned to only draft him if you are okay with the stress of him not attempting to schedule at all until Sunday if at all
MZ: MZ hasn't really played AAA in a while and typically needs another builder to help them out, but are a solid player.
PandaDoux: Another prominent French user, they got to AAA Open finals and had an okay showing there.
fissure: fissure had a spectacular showing in Mono AAA and OM Classic, but haven't really proven themselves outside of that in recent years. Incredibly hard worker that I highly recommend drafting though.
vivalospride: VIVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Plas*: PLAS GOAT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pls signup
(Dragonillis, The Number Man)

Low/Bench/Unusure
itskimbo*: kimbo has had probably the worst showing in om tours out of anyone I know which is unfortunate because I think they're solid just gotten insanely unlucky with matchup almost every time
Osake: AAA Open finalist so probably worth drafting, was highly unconvinced from what I watched though.
motherlove*: Not sure whether motherlove is interested in signing up, nor am i sure how much they've played recently but they've always been solid enough as a player.
Ivar57*: This isn't a recommendation to draft them, just using this as an opportunity to ask where they went lol... they had that one stall sample and then dipped
Flaming Deoxys/Morytha: Morytha is a really fun presence and has good ideas, would be a good supporting option imo.

Balanced Hackmons (dear god why am i even writing about this one... take this with a grain of salt)
Managers who might play this tier: a loser
Top/Starter:
XxSevagxX: PENGUIN BOY he is a very good penguin. will be tough to get him bc he's been a pretty blazing new name in BH but congrats if you do
Quantum Tesseract: QT. that's it. that's all i'm gonna say for the rest of the times I list QT
cityscapes: weirdo who is good at bh ig
PinkDragonTamer: weirder weirdo who is good at bh ig though he hasn't played it in a bit
highlighter*: hl needs to come back and demolish the bh pool again, it keeps happening and i'd like that to continue.

Mid
sugarhigh*: not sure if sugar will sign up, they're the cheese goat so it'll be fun if they do
lph: lph has been playing BH pretty consistently the past year, can't vouch much for their skill but they're definitely more active than some people on this list
Onyx Onix 7: Dunno much about this dude, that ghost mono sample gives me headache
SuperSkylake: Skylake is one of the only people who has consistently been playing over the past year, they're not the best player but I'd say they're solid enough to start
anaconja: doubt they'll play BH but they're decent

Low/Bench/Unusure
willdbeast: will dab :dab:
MAMP: definitely draft MAMP in bh they are a goat BH player that knows the current BH meta and totally wants to play BH in ompl thats why they signed up
Apathetic Inaction: aii is a goat idc, dunno how good they are at but they're cool af
jasprose*: jasp hasn't played much in years nor have they signed up so yeah, they're still around though and can probably support if u ask them
motherlove*: See AAA
Aethernum: Aeth seems to be enjoying BH recently and is solid but he haxed me one time in BH Open 2 years ago and I'm still salty >:( low tier
rest of the SR circlejerk (Smove_$wag, opfish*, Lunatic Hai*, Sweet Jesus*, etc): Dunno if any of these are signing up but im sure they'll get picked up if they do
GL Volkner*: lol volt signing up good one
Nihilslave, and Shing'n Streets: dunno much about these 2, possibly part of SR circlejerk idk but they're worth looking into
LTG: Again, dunno much about them bc I'm not the most familiar with BH but I figured I could list them

Camomons
Managers who might play this tier: Jrdn, Chazm, Dragonillis, The Number Man, a loser
Top:
Sylveon: The only good non-managing Camo player in the pool, have fun with that! Everyone else is nowhere near as good as him/Jrdn/Siamato
Siamato*: Siamato isn't signing up but would be top tier if he did
(Jrdn, Chazm)

Mid/Starter:
in the hills: please don't put me in Camo i'm mediocre af at it in tours, I'm much better in a support role here
Euphonos: something something meteorologist @ everyone
anaconja: anaconja is pretty solid in Camo, haven't made a huge name for themselves but they're good
Quantum Tesseract: QT
23Gz*: Hoping he comes off of LoA soon enough to sign up, I think 23Gz would make a great starter for this.
MetaRiolu7/Meta: Meta has been a long time Camo tours player and they have the record to back it up
Maple: Won one of my Camo tours back in the day and got to OMGS playoffs, they can definitely hold their own here
K3ppr: Not anywhere near 18.5k worthy (no offense) but k3ppr is solid enough for a Camo starter
(Dragonillis, a loser, The Number Man)

Low/Bench/Unusure
Karl Dude Guy: Karl has played in the past few Camo tours so you can start him if you have to
Havens*: Havens hasn't signed up yet but if they do they're worth drafting as a starter or sub
Palapapop*: Palapapop also hasn't signed up yet but their teams are fire af. dunno if they've played in tours or not though
Flaming Deoxys/Morytha: They didn't sign up for Camo, but I think they'd play it if need be and are solid at it imo
people im definitely forgetting: Camo hasn't had any official tours in like 7 months and i don't pay attention to the non-forum ones so :shrug:

Mix and Mega TBH this pool is all in the managers
Managers who might play this tier: Redflix, stresh, Chazm, Andyboy, Catalystic
Top/Starter:
Quantum Tesseract: QT
qways: qways is gonna break into the team tour scene with this tour and I think we're all excited to see it finally
Fardin: fardin innovated gen 8 mnm sets during gen 7 who doin it like him
Pigeons*: i'll tell you why you should draft him if he signs up in about 900 turns
MultiAmmiratore*: Multi is obvious choice if they sign up
(Redflix, stresh, Chazm, Andyboy, Catalystic)

Mid
Zesty43: dunno if Zesty is going for mnm this tour but he can win games prob
Skysolo: gonna be playing NFE but given how massive the NFE pool is he could possibly be your mnm slot
Akashi*: Just don't get haxed lol bro don't get frozen or crit

Low/Bench/Unusure
damflame 3: damflame is solid, would be a good draft
PurpleGatorade*: idk if PG even plays anymore but they'd be solid for mnm
abriel gabram*: see AAA
TectonicDestroyer*: haven't signed up yet but
Icemaster: Not a starter due to LoA but really cool
Flaming Deoxys/Morytha: mentioned them twice already

STABmons
Managers who might play this tier: Lasen (don't expect other managers to play here just bc of how stacked this pool already is)
Top/Starter:
in the hills: Yeah im better than this entire pool what about it c:
vivalospride: VIV WOOOOOOOOOOOOO VIV
Quantum Tesseract: QT
Plas*: PLAS GOAT WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO pls sign up Plas ;-;
aesf*: name a better stab player ill wait
fissure: the goat
betathunder: hasn't played recently so dunno
(rozes, stresh)

Mid
w0rd*: w0rd will be rusty if he signs up, hasn't really been able to keep up with the playerbase esp since gen 8
Terracotta: Terra is solid
drampa's grandpa*: old man isnt signing up but snipe him for support ig
Alternatif*: dunno if he's signing up but he'd be solid in stab
Greybaum*: Don't think grey has signed up yet and if they do they might do NFE but I think they'd be decent enough on their own in STAB
Flaming Victini*: See AAA
LBDC: See AAA
(Lasen)

Low/Bench/Unusure
pichus: pichus is really cool, probably Mid but I'm not sure
velvet: velvet is really solid c:
Spiderz: Got far in STAB Open with my teams
literally any tours player ever: it's STAB lol

Non-OM Players who are worth drafting
Avery:, Stareal*, and Kate: NatDex people trying to get into OMs are very welcome here imo. Avery can definitely fit into MnM and Kate can do Camo
Jho*: Similar to above, Jho has played in past OMPLs iirc and is always a pleasure to have
TonyFlygon*: THE BH SLAYER LETS GOOOOO memes aside Tony is really cool
Pujo: PUJO :3 what a goat
maroon*: sure
The Immortal: Not really sure where this dude came from but he's not terrible at playing, got really far in OMGS out of nowhere
zeefable*: zee has entered into OMs with FFA being an OM for now, so it'd be cool to see them get more involved, but my hopes are low


Other players worth drafting
Icemaster: Busy until mid June, they're still worth picking up imo
pileosand: pileo is good all around despite maining in NFE
queso/Cheese555: cheese is solid all around and a great team presence
Yami: Not sure about Yami, they've played in tours before but aren't very memorable for me
Raj.Shoot: dunno who this is ngl but iirc they're cool? i have goldfish memory lol
Monsareeasy: Still can't believe this dude's name is Mons are easy and not some French word, been thinking he was french for years
Ainzcrad*: May be french? idk what they do but they're cool iirc
avarice: again no clue what they do but i've heard good things
Bushtush: OMPL 6 behind us I'm sure bush is solid enough to be drafted and piece up some people
I am prtty trash: pretty new name that talks a good bit in the OM room, normally would never endorse OM room users but they're pretty solid all around and seem really cool for a new face
Clefable: Super solid all around team support, probably won't wanna play and will end up helping stresh or wherever viv ends up.
Jett, Ho3n, and King Leo V: I knew I said I wasn't gonna mention NFE people but I'd be sad if I didn't mention these 3 :)

If I didn't mention you, that's your fault! Get better lol. Jk sorry if I forgot anyone good this was a... long list

wtf strap was again mentioned but as skysolo cmon guys get it right but not only that they mentioned strap outside of nfe?????????????????????
THERE ISNT EVEN A PROPER NFE RANKING HERE. HUGE LETDOWN! you are lucky to still be in C rank

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literally every other post in this thread

 

[Fissure]

People who really want to be drafted after seeing everyone complain about the MnM pool:

 

[Isaiah]

Mocc 7:

Prices

Wiggly Family

Based Boomers

Zoomer Zeraoras

Quantum Tesseract	26000
Atha	13000
LBDC	12000
anaconja	9000
Hys	7500
Stareal	6000
Fc	3500
velvet	3000

Temper Tyrantrums

sugarhigh	12500
Fissure	12000
Greybaum	8500
MZ	7000
Shing'n Streets	6000
Mark K	6000
The Immortal	5500
DerpyBoi	5500
Stolen Identity	5000
Osake	4500
lepton	4000
Karl Dude Guy	3500

Five-Star Jolteons

Spinda Wheels

Fullmetal Alcremists

Rozelias

Overall

Sylveon.	26500
Quantum Tesseract	26000
Siamoto	25000
PinkDragonTamer	23000
cityscapes	21500
XxSevagxX	20000
motherlove	19500
Sabella	19500
Skysolo	17500
qways	17000
vivalospride	17000
Plas	17000
Zesty43	16500
Betathunder	15500
Jett	15000
Fardin	14500
S1nn0hC0nfirm3d	14000
Atha	13000
sugarhigh	12500
LBDC	12000
Fissure	12000
Meta	12000
Euphonos	10500
Havens	10500
ojr	10000
Terracotta	10000
King Leo V	10000
anaconja	9000
Alternatif	9000
85percent	8500
tlenit	8500
Onyx Onix 7	8500
Greybaum	8500
MAMP	8000
Hys	7500
TectonicDestroyer	7500
Bushtush	7000
MZ	7000
23gz	7000
Stareal	6000
Shing'n Streets	6000
Mark K	6000
Avery	5500
Marjane	5500
lph	5500
Mossy Sandwich	5500
The Immortal	5500
DerpyBoi	5500
PA	5500
Maple	5500
Splash	5500
Shiba	5000
A Touch Of Crazy	5000
Spiderz	5000
Stolen Identity	5000
Osake	4500
Apathetic Inaction	4500
Alkione	4500
lepton	4000
Fc	3500
Heracross2.0	3500
Karl Dude Guy	3500
Monsareeasy	3500
velvet	3000
K3ppr	3000
Smove_$wag y	3000
RICEMAN	3000
Rav3ndan	3000
Ballfire	3000
willdbeast	3000
Flaming Deoxys	3000
Nihilslave	3000

Poll results:

 

[QT]

Rozelias coming through:

NFE: Straponsolo
MnM: Fardin
BH: TTTech (Onyx Onix and LPH Support)
AAA: Motherlove
Stabmons: Betathunder
Camomons: Euphonos (Mossy Sandwich Support)

 

[Jett]

Alcremists:
AAA: jrdn
BH: XxSevagxX (Nihilslave support)
Camo: 23gz (Flaming Deoxys support)
MnM: Andyboy
NFE: King Leo V
STAB: Plas

 

[Siamato]

Siamoto

 

[BloodAce]

This tour is cursed if Gen 8 NFE main Monsareeasy goes undrafted. That is all I have

 

[Chloe]

Chloe's NFE (Not Fire Extinguisher) Power Rankings

there are many ways to put out a fire that are not scary red cylindrical foamy shooter thing

A tier: fire blankie, ouchie burn burn my hands

B tier: fire truck - i got into one of these when i was little and the man made me cry but i do admit they can be putting out fire

C tier: botke of water - sometimes works if fire small enough

D tier: run away - run away from the fire and forget it exists you selfish prick

F tier: gasoline - doesn't work

 

[drampa's grandpa]

Chloe's NFE (Not Fire Extinguisher) Power Rankings

there are many ways to put out a fire that are not scary red cylindrical foamy shooter thing

I'm sorry Chloe but this post clearly shows that you haven't spent enough time with the N(ot)F(ire)E(xtinguisher) community recently. You have completely overlooked or misrepresented the variety and power of the various ways to put out fire.

F tier: gasoline - doesn't work

Um yes it does? Just reduce it to -45°F first and be very very very very sure it doesn't get above that or you'll die in a big fiery explosion of fire duhhhh

S Tier:


If you drop a bunch of sand on a fire it might go out. Or maybe you will just have a big pileosand you can climb to get out of the fire. Either works.

S Tier

Abandon it on a rock and tell it you'll come back for it.

It's true; fire won't spread it its waiting for somebody.

S Tier
:ss/karen:
Take the Oxygen in the divorce

Fire won't stick around if you win the Oxygen in the divorce court. If you lose there's not much you can do, so make sure you get a good lawyer.

in the hills did I start drama?

 

[Gman]

OM players' official song this time of the year:

 

[a loser]

I'd like to talk about inflation. This real-world problem has infiltrated the online Pokemon universe, and is largely due to the sheer number of powerful leaders (managers) causing an arms race. Last season, the Week 1 BH starters were drafted for an average price of 12.7K (which surprisingly exactly matched the average mock prices). After seven mock drafts this season, the average price of projected starters is approaching 16K. This 25% increase is definitely helped by the increased price of manager self-buys, but I think is more due to a top-heavy player pool and high demand for said players. The most expensive draft pick is also following this trend, increasing 24% from last season going from 23K to 28.5K.

I'm going to add prices to this BH PR to talk about some of this differences in prices from last season and price gaps between these groups.

Sevag’s & Cityscapes’s BH8 Power Rankings: Brought to you by the SR Circlejerk

Tier 1 & 2: (Average price 20.7K)

Players

Stresh: 20K (managing)
XxSevagxX: 21.5K
Cityscapes: 19.4K
A loser: 20K (managing)
PinkDragonTamer: 22.6K

Here you see that the top tier BH players are going for top dollar. While these are higher than last year's prices, it does make sense because all of these players are competent at mons in general and can be a great presence to their team. Two standouts here, to me, are XxSevagxX and PDT. Both are excellent and worth picking up without a doubt, but these prices are quite steep considering one is playing in his first team tour and the other is pulling the classic move of not playing OMs for an extended period of time but signing up for OMPL. But overall it is crazy to think that even the most expensive BH pick last season was 16.5K.

Tier 3: (Average price 9.5K)

Players

Quantum Tesseract: 23.7K
Sugarhigh: 13K
Onyx Onix 7: 7.9K
Smove_$wag (TTTech): 4.4K
A Touch of Crazy: 4.5K
Nihilislave (Asou & Chihiro): 3.9K

There is a notable price drop between this group and the top tier players, which is to be expected. This group is clearly skewed by QT's big price tag, but I still find that this group is priced much higher than those of a similar skill level last season. Even without counting QT, this group averages 6.7K whereas last season the actual group of solid BH subs and support went for 3.3K. It'll be interesting to see how this group plays out in the actual draft, because likely more than one of these players is going to have to step up and play as an OMPL starter for the first time.

Tier 4: (Average price 3.7K)

Players

Lph: 5K
Ivar57: 3.8K
Stolen Identity (Yolk): 4.3K
KeeganSkymin4444 (Soul Dew Latias): N/A
Aethernum: 4K
Apathetic Inaction (aninterestingidea): 4K
SuperSkylake: 5.4K
Willdbeast: 3.8K

This group seems to be more reasonably priced based on historic draft results for BH support. Typically, BH mains that aren't quite reliable enough to be starters go for around 3K to 5K in the draft. This shows more clearly how top-heavy the draft is looking this year.

Tier 5: (Average price 6.7K)

Players

Fardin: 13.5K
Lepton: 5.1K
Flaming Deoxys (Morytha): 5.7K
Jqlove: 3K
Ballfire: 3K
Anaconja: 9K
MAMP: 8.1K
Alternatif: 6.7K

It is interesting how this group of players is the same price as the Tier 3 minus QT. Most of these players have not seriously played BH recently but are historically good enough at mons to warrant drafting as emergency BH support along with other OMs. These prices also make more sense when compared with previous seasons, since subs with experience in more than one OM generally go slightly higher than subs that main one tier.

Overall, I think prices of top players are rising due to the increased price of manager self-buys and the fact that several managers would be highly sought after if they were in the draft. With fewer top tier players to choose from, it is more likely that managers will spend a little more on the front end to make sure they don't get outgunned by other teams. I know mock drafts can at times set unrealistic expectations of player prices, but I think that players going for 25K or higher this year is definitely going to happen.

TL;DR: Prices for top players are up around 25% from previous seasons. Sorry no memes here, just some numbers.

 

[Isaiah]

Mocc 8:

Prices

Wiggly Family

Based Boomers

Zoomer Zeraoras

Temper Tyrantrums

Five-Star Jolteons

Spinda Wheels

Fullmetal Alcremists

Rozelias

Overall

Poll Results:

 

[willdbeast]

Willdbeast'sSuperExcitingMysteryDraftPriceGuessingBonanza3.0!

This year's SuperExcitingMysteryDraftPriceGuessingBonanza is perhaps the most exciting instalment yet, with dominant competitors of the past editions such as Chazm (with a win and a runners up), Chessking345 and Gman (last edition's winners) ineligible to take part, leaving Mark K as the only favourite left in the field. Also the slightly different Auction settings will spice things up for sure!

Literal copy/paste of last year's 2018's post because I'm lazy af:

The aim of this game is to guess your price in the draft (guessing undrafted doesn't count) and send your guesses to me in PMs either on smogon or discord.

I'll give a shoutout to anyone who is within 5% of their actual price (so exact price up to 10k, +-.5 up to 20k then +- 1k etc), or the next best if everyone sucks.

Nothing really at stake here but it seemed like a fun idea, I'll accept any guesses up to 20mins before the scheduled start time of the auction.

Rules

• Only one guess, I'll ignore any after the first.
• Must be in PMs because a) don't want to spam the thread and b) if all your guesses are public it might affect the draft somehow. 2019 edit: b) doesn't really make sense since im a manager so don't worry about this 2021 edit: ignore that too
• After 20mins before the draft is scheduled to start I'll ignore guesses even if the draft is late or something.
• Managers can't guess their price.
• All entrants must be hyped for the draft!
• Edit: if your name on w/e is different to the name you signed up under tell me that name pls.

 

[Ren]

View attachment 343708
I'd like to talk about inflation. This real-world problem has infiltrated the online Pokemon universe, and is largely due to the sheer number of powerful leaders (managers) causing an arms race. Last season, the Week 1 BH starters were drafted for an average price of 12.7K (which surprisingly exactly matched the average mock prices). After seven mock drafts this season, the average price of projected starters is approaching 16K. This 25% increase is definitely helped by the increased price of manager self-buys, but I think is more due to a top-heavy player pool and high demand for said players. The most expensive draft pick is also following this trend, increasing 24% from last season going from 23K to 28.5K.

I'm going to add prices to this BH PR to talk about some of this differences in prices from last season and price gaps between these groups.
Tier 1 & 2: (Average price 20.7K)

Players

Stresh: 20K (managing)
XxSevagxX: 21.5K
Cityscapes: 19.4K
A loser: 20K (managing)
PinkDragonTamer: 22.6K

Here you see that the top tier BH players are going for top dollar. While these are higher than last year's prices, it does make sense because all of these players are competent at mons in general and can be a great presence to their team. Two standouts here, to me, are XxSevagxX and PDT. Both are excellent and worth picking up without a doubt, but these prices are quite steep considering one is playing in his first team tour and the other is pulling the classic move of not playing OMs for an extended period of time but signing up for OMPL. But overall it is crazy to think that even the most expensive BH pick last season was 16.5K.

Tier 3: (Average price 9.5K)

Players

Quantum Tesseract: 23.7K
Sugarhigh: 13K
Onyx Onix 7: 7.9K
Smove_$wag (TTTech): 4.4K
A Touch of Crazy: 4.5K
Nihilislave (Asou & Chihiro): 3.9K

There is a notable price drop between this group and the top tier players, which is to be expected. This group is clearly skewed by QT's big price tag, but I still find that this group is priced much higher than those of a similar skill level last season. Even without counting QT, this group averages 6.7K whereas last season the actual group of solid BH subs and support went for 3.3K. It'll be interesting to see how this group plays out in the actual draft, because likely more than one of these players is going to have to step up and play as an OMPL starter for the first time.

Tier 4: (Average price 3.7K)

Players

Lph: 5K
Ivar57: 3.8K
Stolen Identity (Yolk): 4.3K
KeeganSkymin4444 (Soul Dew Latias): N/A
Aethernum: 4K
Apathetic Inaction (aninterestingidea): 4K
SuperSkylake: 5.4K
Willdbeast: 3.8K

This group seems to be more reasonably priced based on historic draft results for BH support. Typically, BH mains that aren't quite reliable enough to be starters go for around 3K to 5K in the draft. This shows more clearly how top-heavy the draft is looking this year.

Tier 5: (Average price 6.7K)

Players

Fardin: 13.5K
Lepton: 5.1K
Flaming Deoxys (Morytha): 5.7K
Jqlove: 3K
Ballfire: 3K
Anaconja: 9K
MAMP: 8.1K
Alternatif: 6.7K

It is interesting how this group of players is the same price as the Tier 3 minus QT. Most of these players have not seriously played BH recently but are historically good enough at mons to warrant drafting as emergency BH support along with other OMs. These prices also make more sense when compared with previous seasons, since subs with experience in more than one OM generally go slightly higher than subs that main one tier.

Overall, I think prices of top players are rising due to the increased price of manager self-buys and the fact that several managers would be highly sought after if they were in the draft. With fewer top tier players to choose from, it is more likely that managers will spend a little more on the front end to make sure they don't get outgunned by other teams. I know mock drafts can at times set unrealistic expectations of player prices, but I think that players going for 25K or higher this year is definitely going to happen.

TL;DR: Prices for top players are up around 25% from previous seasons. Sorry no memes here, just some numbers.

The total budget went up by a scale of 1.25 as well so this kinda makes sense no?

 

[Isaiah]

Mocc 9:

Prices

Wiggly Family

Based Boomers

Zoomer Zeraoras

Temper Tyrantrums

Five-Star Jolteons

Spinda Wheels

Fullmetal Alcremists

Rozelias

Overall

Vote for your favorite draft!

 

[willdbeast]

Lineup for my mocc team:

Temporary Tyrantrums
AAA: Sabella
BH: mlove and mamp play rock paper scissors, whoever loses has to learn bh
Camo: Zesty43/PA
MnM: Chazm
NFE: Shing'n Streets
STAB: Terra

Supporting cast: willdbeast, jasprose, PandaDoux, Apathetic Inaction, 85percent, Hys

 

[XxLazzerpenguinxX]

Willdbeast reuniting past BH Open winners, as they sit together in the Temporary Tyrantrums Retirement Club reminiscing about their glory days.

 

[alaserdolphin]

View attachment 344277
Willdbeast reuniting past BH Open winners, as they sit together in the Temporary Tyrantrums Retirement Club reminiscing about their glory days.

My theory is that this is a real picture of the four of them in 2021 and also Jasprose legitimately smiles like a serial killer
When you think about it, it explains a lot - MAMP is 100% the kind of person who wears sweater-vests, Jasprose is definitely the kind of person who fought in Nam but loved it, Willdebeast either has no clue what is going on in any given moment or is so evolved in their thoughts that mere mortals can’t understand them, and motherlove is just happy to be the one with the laptop

 

[pdt]

Two standouts here, to me, are XxSevagxX and PDT. Both are excellent and worth picking up without a doubt, but these prices are quite steep considering one is playing in his first team tour and the other is pulling the classic move of not playing OMs for an extended period of time but signing up for OMPL. But overall it is crazy to think that even the most expensive BH pick last season was 16.5K.

maybe im just awesome

 

[a loser]

maybe im just awesome

can confirm. PDT is indeed awesome (even though his college football team isn't)

 

[vivalospride]

OMPL has gotta he one of the most headass tours on the site but the amount of energy and love it gets from its own community makes it impossible to not be excited for it, i hope PinkDragonTamer goes for 30k and loses every game when it matters most bc he has the clutch gene of lebron in 2012

 

[Sectonia]

mocc 10

Pricelist

Temper Tyrantrums

cityscapes	21500
Betathunder	16000
LBDC	15000
Maxomega	7000
Shing'n Streets	6000
Greybaum	5500
Monsareeasy	5000
SuperSkylake	4000

Based Boomers

PinkDragonTamer	25000
XxSevagxX	23000
Fardin	19000
vivalospride	17500
Stareal	5000
Flaming Deoxys	4000
Shiba	3000
lepton	3000

Fullmetal Alcremists

Sylveon.	29000
sugarhigh	13000
tlenit	6000
Splash	5500
Aethernum	3500
jasprose	3000

Zoomer Zeraoras

Skysolo	16000
Euphonos	14500
Atha	11000
23Gz	5000
professor tox	5000
Rav3ndan	5000
Apathetic Inaction	5000
The Immortal	4000
TectonicDestroyer	4000
Onyx Onix 7	4000
Icemaster	4000

Rozelias

Pujo	5500
Osake	5500
85percent	5500
Alkione	5000
Smove_$wag	5000
Havens	5000
Marjane	4500
King Leo V	4500
Mark K	4500
willdbeast	4000
MZ	4000
pichus	4000
Hys	4000
PandaDoux	4000
Karl Dude Guy	3500
K3ppr	3500
Avery	3500
LuckyPiper	3500
Spiderz	3000
avarice	3000
Ivar57	3000
queso	3000
Palapapop	3000
DurzaOffTopic	3000
PA	3000

Wiggly Family

Quantum Tesseract	26500
Siamato	21500
Zesty43	16000
S1nn0hC0nfirm3d	11000
motherlove	9000
Alternatif	7500
lph	4500
damflame 3	4000

Five-Star Jolteons

Terracotta	12000
Sabella	11000
Meta	10000
Jett	10000
Fissure	10000
MAMP	6500
Stolen Identity	5000
KeeganSkymin4444	4500
velvet	4000
Nihilslave	4000
euFeatured	3000

Spinda Wheels

qways	15000
Plas	14000
Bushtush	7500
anaconja	6500
HamHamHamHamHam	6500
A Touch Of Crazy	6500
Maple	6500
ojr	6000
Mossy Sandwich	4500
Fc	4000
kythr	3000

Overall Pricelist

Sylveon.	29000
Quantum Tesseract	26500
PinkDragonTamer	25000
XxSevagxX	23000
cityscapes	21500
Siamato	21500
Fardin	19000
vivalospride	17500
Betathunder	16000
Skysolo	16000
Zesty43	16000
LBDC	15000
qways	15000
Euphonos	14500
Plas	14000
sugarhigh	13000
Terracotta	12000
Atha	11000
S1nn0hC0nfirm3d	11000
Sabella	11000
Meta	10000
Jett	10000
Fissure	10000
motherlove	9000
Alternatif	7500
Bushtush	7500
Maxomega	7000
MAMP	6500
anaconja	6500
HamHamHamHamHam	6500
A Touch Of Crazy	6500
Maple	6500
Shing'n Streets	6000
tlenit	6000
ojr	6000
Greybaum	5500
Splash	5500
Pujo	5500
Osake	5500
85percent	5500
Monsareeasy	5000
Stareal	5000
23Gz	5000
professor tox	5000
Rav3ndan	5000
Apathetic Inaction	5000
Alkione	5000
Smove_$wag	5000
Havens	5000
Stolen Identity	5000
Marjane	4500
King Leo V	4500
Mark K	4500
lph	4500
KeeganSkymin4444	4500
Mossy Sandwich	4500
SuperSkylake	4000
Flaming Deoxys	4000
The Immortal	4000
TectonicDestroyer	4000
Onyx Onix 7	4000
Icemaster	4000
willdbeast	4000
MZ	4000
pichus	4000
Hys	4000
PandaDoux	4000
damflame 3	4000
velvet	4000
Nihilslave	4000
Fc	4000
Aethernum	3500
Karl Dude Guy	3500
K3ppr	3500
Avery	3500
LuckyPiper	3500
Shiba	3000
lepton	3000
jasprose	3000
Spiderz	3000
avarice	3000
Ivar57	3000
queso	3000
Palapapop	3000
DurzaOffTopic	3000
PA	3000
euFeatured	3000
kythr	3000

actual draft is tomorrow, btw ;w;

 

[berry]

OMPL Draft Bingo / Drinking Game
Just some OMPL draft side events for the viewers at home to enjoy. Special thanks to MAMP and Lasen.

please enjoy responsibly.​

 

[Isaiah]

Mocc 11:

Prices

Wiggly Family

Based Boomers

Zoomer Zeraoras

Temper Tyrantrums

Five-Star Jolteons

Spinda Wheels

Fullmetal Alcremists

Rozelias

Overall

Sylveon.	27000
PinkDragonTamer	26500
Quantum Tesseract	25500
XxSevagxX	25000
cityscapes	21000
Skysolo	18000
S1nn0hC0nfirm3d	17000
Siamato	16500
sugarhigh	16000
Onyx Onix 7	16000
vivalospride	16000
Fardin	15500
Sabella	15000
Atha	15000
Betathunder	14500
motherlove	14000
LBDC	13500
Jett	13000
Terracotta	11000
85percent	10500
Plas	10500
Fissure	10000
Zesty43	10000
HamHamHamHamHam	9500
tlenit	9000
Meta	8500
Bushtush	8500
MZ	8000
23Gz	8000
Osake	7500
qways	7500
anaconja	7000
PandaDoux	7000
Euphonos	7000
Alternatif	6500
King Leo V	6500
Pigeons	6000
Palapapop	6000
Maxomega	6000
lepton	6000
Maple	6000
MAMP	5500
Havens	5500
ojr	5500
A Touch Of Crazy	5500
Greybaum	5500
Monsareeasy	5500
The Immortal	5000
K3ppr	5000
SuperSkylake	5000
damflame 3	5000
Ivar57	5000
Mark K	4500
Pujo	4500
LuckyPiper	4500
Flaming Deoxys	4000
Hats	4000
Shing'n Streets	4000
Icemaster	4000
Marjane	3500
professor tox	3500
Aethernum	3500
Karl Dude Guy	3500
Tuthur	3500
willdbeast	3500
Gray	3000
DurzaOffTopic	3000
Mossy Sandwich	3000
Stolen Identity	3000
Rav3ndan	3000
Hys	3000
Nihilslave	3000
Smove_$wag	3000

Poll results: