Tournament OMPL XII - Commencement

Willdbeast'sSuperExcitingMysteryDraftPriceGuessingBonanza5.0!

This year's SuperExcitingMysteryDraftPriceGuessingBonanza will hopefully continue the unprecedented excellence in guessing that last year's OMPL brought, with average guesses being out by only 1.3k helped along by an unheard of five (5) correct guesses from The Number Man, XxLazzerpenguinxX, baconeatinassassin, swag god and myself. Sadly not all of these incredible guessing prodigies are making a return to OMPL this time around which may give new up and coming players a chance to break into the top ranks.

Literal copy/paste of last year's 2018's post because I'm lazy af:

The aim of this game is to guess your price in the draft (guessing undrafted doesn't count) and send your guesses to me in PMs either on smogon or discord.

I'll give a shoutout to anyone who is within 5% of their actual price (so exact price up to 10k, +-.5 up to 20k then +- 1k etc), or the next best if everyone sucks. 2024 edit: When I wrote this originally I wildly overestimated how good guesses would be in general and also didn't realise I would be writing a full in depth review every year for over half a decade so I'll just post whatever I feel like.

Nothing really at stake here but it seemed like a fun idea, I'll accept any guesses up to 20mins before the scheduled start time of the auction. 2023 Edit: This has been going on longer than OMWC so at this point there must be some pride at stake, right?

  • Only one guess, I'll ignore any after the first.
  • Must be in PMs because a) don't want to spam the thread and b) if all your guesses are public it might affect the draft somehow. 2019 edit: b) doesn't really make sense since im a manager so don't worry about this 2021 edit: ignore that too
  • After 20mins before the draft is scheduled to start I'll ignore guesses even if the draft is late or something.
  • Managers can't guess their price.
  • All entrants must be hyped for the draft!
  • Edit: if your name on w/e is different to the name you signed up under tell me that name pls.
 
Mocc 10 - Last?
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Career Ended13500
TTTech13500
Don Vascus12000
ghostlike11500
TPP10500
Lily8500
Dr. Phd. BJ6000
Frixel5500
Quinn5500
db5000
Potatochan5000
Kinetic3500
SammyCe12316000
hariyana grande9000
Les2BG8500
Fraise7500
DugZa6000
SpaceSpeakers6000
zioziotrip5500
Concept Everything5500
Shing5000
temp5000
Mada5000
Nashrock4500
jasprose4000
Hiusi guy3500
Codename C.A.T3000
damflame 33000
Don Bork3000
augustakira17000
Quantum Tesseract13500
Racool13500
hayedenn10000
DeepFriedMagikarp7500
Stories7000
Schpoonman7000
Tea Guzzler6000
Smudge5000
PociekMociek5000
lepton4500
avarice4000
Atha21000
Fc13500
xavgb13500
HiZo9500
zastra8500
anaconja7500
SEA7000
Sulo4500
crow crumbs3000
NinjaSnapple3000
The Guy Who Has Many Alts3000
GlalieGoesBoom3000
Hera3000
abriel13500
zoe13500
Icemaster12500
cityscapes12000
shiloh7000
XxLazzerpenguinxX6500
Lana6500
cscl6000
Kaif6000
CoolTrainerGary5500
Taka4500
tzaur3500
entrocefalo3000
Clas17000
yuki15000
willdbeast11000
BijouMode10000
Jrdn8500
Clementine8000
Stareal6000
Betticus IV5000
Glory4500
BoingK4000
matte3000
Cao Jie3000
Oculars3000
Fissure14000
Slither Wing14000
Evie13500
pannu12500
Chessking34511000
LordBox10000
pdt7000
Chris321565000
Axzel4000
dex3000
spell3000
Mossy Sandwich3000
astralydia18500
Redflix16500
RoFnA13500
Chromate11000
Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂6000
Osake6000
MZ5000
Hacker4000
PrimalKyogre4000
Tranquility3500
hellom3000
sasha3000
vk3000
Bouff3000
Atha21000
astralydia18500
Clas17000
augustakira17000
Redflix16500
SammyCe12316000
yuki15000
Fissure14000
Slither Wing14000
Career Ended13500
TTTech13500
Quantum Tesseract13500
Racool13500
Fc13500
xavgb13500
abriel13500
zoe13500
Evie13500
RoFnA13500
pannu12500
Icemaster12500
Don Vascus12000
cityscapes12000
ghostlike11500
Chessking34511000
Chromate11000
willdbeast11000
TPP10500
LordBox10000
BijouMode10000
hayedenn10000
HiZo9500
hariyana grande9000
Lily8500
zastra8500
Jrdn8500
Les2BG8500
Clementine8000
anaconja7500
DeepFriedMagikarp7500
Fraise7500
SEA7000
pdt7000
shiloh7000
Stories7000
Schpoonman7000
XxLazzerpenguinxX6500
Lana6500
Dr. Phd. BJ6000
cscl6000
Kaif6000
Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂6000
Osake6000
Stareal6000
Tea Guzzler6000
DugZa6000
SpaceSpeakers6000
Frixel5500
Quinn5500
CoolTrainerGary5500
zioziotrip5500
Concept Everything5500
db5000
Potatochan5000
Chris321565000
MZ5000
Betticus IV5000
Smudge5000
PociekMociek5000
Shing5000
temp5000
Mada5000
Sulo4500
Taka4500
Glory4500
lepton4500
Nashrock4500
Axzel4000
Hacker4000
PrimalKyogre4000
BoingK4000
avarice4000
jasprose4000
Kinetic3500
tzaur3500
Tranquility3500
Hiusi guy3500
crow crumbs3000
NinjaSnapple3000
The Guy Who Has Many Alts3000
GlalieGoesBoom3000
Hera3000
dex3000
spell3000
Mossy Sandwich3000
entrocefalo3000
hellom3000
sasha3000
vk3000
Bouff3000
matte3000
Cao Jie3000
Oculars3000
Codename C.A.T3000
damflame 33000
Don Bork3000

Malevolent Misdreavuses

AAA - shiloh + Lana
BH - XxLazzerpenguinxX + cityscapes + tzaur
GG - entrocefalo + Taka
Inh - cscl + CoolTrainerGary
PiC - zoe
MnM - Icemaster
STAB - Kaif + abriel
Bo3 - abriel

MOCC Results Link: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Sh3QpUDhvts_UkEvQnq0mjQKcy8d3WTDDgLsuqTFVM8/edit?usp=sharing
 
Afternoon of the nth day. 50 Hours 23 Minutes remain.
Wouldn't be a OMPL auction without this (reminder its a bit less than 24 hours from now)
View attachment 633600
Drink responsibly!
Addendum:
take a shot if:
Team only has a bh, no support

Drink the entire six pack if:
- Player goes .30 (or above somehow
- Replacement manager needed

heading to the beach soon, praying for the best
 

drampa's grandpa

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Drampa's Picks
As I'm not invested this year I thought I'd make a list of players I am personally keeping my eye on in the draft. A bit last minute (as in draft starts in under an hour) but that's me for you.

Chris32156 - The first of two old Tyrantrums on this list because I'm nothing if not consistent, Chris Numbers is being extremely underestimated in moccs. He is a very solid 2v2 and doubles player, and with any support would make for one of the top slots in the tour.

Fissure - If you don't know Fissure you should. I would consider them the most consistently good STABmons player out there, as they've done well every time they've played over the years. Not a budget buy but a reliable slot-in any year.

Tea Guzzler - Tea is only support but because of that they'll likely be cheap af. And Tea level dedicated support is incredible, definitely someone to keep in mind.

Sammyce - Surprising nobody, Sammy is last on this list. Newcomer of the year, taking the solo circuit by storm, yet to be proven in OMPL. Will not be cheap, but definitely THE player to watch.
 
Mocc 11 -
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Career Ended13500
TTTech13500
shiloh11000
TPP6500
GlalieGoesBoom6000
Osake5500
Frixel5500
Kaif5000
Chris321564500
LordBox4500
matte3500
Axzel3500
TectonicDestroyer3000
Bouff3000
DripLegend3000
Exotic643000
Ainzcrad3000
SammyCe12321500
Ivar5713500
HiZo9500
Don Vascus7500
BijouMode7500
hariyana grande7000
PociekMociek6500
Fraise6000
hellom4500
xdRudi.exe4000
Glory3500
Tranquility3000
Marsopa Trump & Test Rex3000
SpaceSpeakers3000
Atha15500
Potatochan14500
Quantum Tesseract13500
ghostlike10000
Smudge9000
Les2BG7000
anaconja6000
SEA5500
Mada5000
hayedenn4000
Mossy Sandwich4000
willdbeast3000
tzaur3000
Icemaster16500
Dr. Phd. BJ14500
Fc13500
xavgb13500
Lana12000
tier6000
DeepFriedMagikarp5000
aerobee5000
BlackKnight_Gawain5000
temp3000
Binacle Pinnacle3000
PrimalKyogre3000
augustakira16500
abriel13500
zoe13500
pdt9500
MZ8500
cscl7500
Slither Wing6000
The Guy Who Has Many Alts4000
Nashrock3000
Hacker3000
lepton3000
db3000
BoingK3000
Nyx3000
Codename C.A.T3000
astralydia16000
yuki14500
cityscapes14000
Sylvi13500
Lily11000
Taka10500
dilllllllllllon4500
avarice4000
baaaaaat3000
pyu3000
sasha3000
iLiekMudkipz_3000
Redflix15500
Evie13500
pannu13000
Fissure11000
Chessking34510500
Clas10000
Jrdn9000
NinjaSnapple5500
Schpoonman3000
Kinetic3000
Betticus IV3000
Stories3000
Chromate17500
RoFnA13500
entrocefalo10500
Clementine9000
XxLazzerpenguinxX8500
Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂7500
zioziotrip7000
Tea Guzzler5000
Sulo4500
Stareal4500
DugZa4000
jasprose3500
zastra3000
SammyCe12321500
Chromate17500
Icemaster16500
augustakira16500
astralydia16000
Atha15500
Redflix15500
Dr. Phd. BJ14500
Potatochan14500
yuki14500
cityscapes14000
Career Ended13500
TTTech13500
Ivar5713500
Quantum Tesseract13500
Fc13500
xavgb13500
abriel13500
zoe13500
Sylvi13500
Evie13500
RoFnA13500
pannu13000
Lana12000
Fissure11000
Lily11000
shiloh11000
Chessking34510500
entrocefalo10500
Taka10500
ghostlike10000
Clas10000
HiZo9500
pdt9500
Smudge9000
Jrdn9000
Clementine9000
MZ8500
XxLazzerpenguinxX8500
Don Vascus7500
BijouMode7500
cscl7500
Maybca☆〜ゝ。∂7500
Les2BG7000
hariyana grande7000
zioziotrip7000
PociekMociek6500
TPP6500
tier6000
anaconja6000
Fraise6000
Slither Wing6000
GlalieGoesBoom6000
SEA5500
NinjaSnapple5500
Osake5500
Frixel5500
DeepFriedMagikarp5000
aerobee5000
BlackKnight_Gawain5000
Mada5000
Tea Guzzler5000
Kaif5000
hellom4500
Sulo4500
Stareal4500
dilllllllllllon4500
Chris321564500
LordBox4500
hayedenn4000
Mossy Sandwich4000
xdRudi.exe4000
The Guy Who Has Many Alts4000
DugZa4000
avarice4000
Glory3500
jasprose3500
matte3500
Axzel3500
temp3000
Binacle Pinnacle3000
PrimalKyogre3000
willdbeast3000
tzaur3000
Tranquility3000
Marsopa Trump & Test Rex3000
SpaceSpeakers3000
Nashrock3000
Hacker3000
lepton3000
db3000
BoingK3000
Nyx3000
Codename C.A.T3000
Schpoonman3000
Kinetic3000
Betticus IV3000
Stories3000
zastra3000
baaaaaat3000
pyu3000
sasha3000
iLiekMudkipz_3000
TectonicDestroyer3000
Bouff3000
DripLegend3000
Exotic643000
Ainzcrad3000
 

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5-minute PRs

1. Rise Up Darkrais - a very fierce set of contenders with extremely solid non om players supported by reigning solo tour champs like career. This team is super deep and has no lack of premium players and good supporting slots, and I can't see any cardinal sins in their draft strategy, as they seemed to balance their slots evenly and definitely didn't overpay for any of their players. A successful squad of <5ks in Tect and Chris#s is key to their victory, and getting other players like LordBox on a roll will lead to a complete steamroll in the season.

2. Soul-Stealing Seven-Star Solgaleos - the name of the game is support. the icemaster jerk backed up with xavgb building and overall solid players will prevail, and I've learned my lesson to never bet against stresh and never count out the defending champions.

3. Heart Takers - this is where the decisions start to get difficult, with the Heart Takers being an all star team capturing sammy and other rising OM stars like pocmoc and don vascus. With probably the best single player in the pool in sammy paired with a premium manager pick, as well as very strong depth, I'd be surprised to see the HT leave the season at the bottom.

4. Dubwool Entendres - Hogging two of the best bo3 slots in the tour seems like a strategy that'll pay off here. With very strong generalist players and one of the top two manager pairs, I think this team did the best in the late-draft cheap picks finding solid players like will, sea, and mada to fill out subs. I think this could be bumped up a couple of slots if Racool was playing and in her prime and I was pretty bummed to hear she wouldn't be on the field, but I'd be hard pressed to discount her support.

5. Malevolent Misdreavuses - with strong ompl legends like pdt and mz as well as some premium picks like akira, I can see the missys going just far enough and wouldn't be surprised to see them steamrolling some lower teams but really struggling with prepping into premium manager pairs like S5s and the teams other above. I think the swing point on this team is PDT, and his record alone will probably reflect how well of a time the missys will have throughout the season.

6. Walking Wokes - These last couple of slots were pretty difficult with some teams barely beating out others, but I think that the Missys are the worst in-the-running team with a chance of making playoffs. Being essentially forced to start Jrdn is staring down another massive depth issue, especially after last season. Clas and pannu are both great players until they tilt or get burnt out later in the season. I think Redflix is the standout here as an mnm player, but I can tell this is going to be a very long season if this team doesn't come out of the gates strong.

7. Black Diamond Kyurems - Every team on this list has some premium picks in the tour and the BDKs got one of the most hyped players in the moccs with Chromate and might have comitted the cardinal sin of spending too much on one slot, but this team really lacks the building support that I would like to see. Should coast to a fine record and not an overwhelmingly bad team, but surely not the best one on the list. A team I would be pretty surprised to see in the playoffs.

8. W Virizzions - there has to be a last place team, and I think the virizions got the worst draft here. Starting with what I think is an overpay for a dead for 2 years former first pick overall lydia and some questionable picks late draft on a team that's clearly lacking depth in my eyes, I don't personally see this team going very far, and I would be very surprised to see them make playoffs.
 

drampa's grandpa

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Drampa's Draft Thoughts

Biggest Overpays:
A bit of a note is that the higher prices in this draft were actually quite low compared to average. 21.5k as the max, and the next one down at 17.5? Those are obviously big spends in their own right, but we typically see a couple in the 20+ range, occasionally 30+ when someone (the manager) is crazy. I don't condone spending 30 that's dumb, just pointing out it's happened. Nothing here was a truly insane overspend by some years' standards, but I'm still going to go over what I think were the biggest outliers. Honestly I started doing this and was like... there's like one and it's just a risky buy that might work out. Managers just underpaid for everything.

willdbeest - 3K is too much smh. Every team overpaid on this nerd.

Biggest Underpays:
xavgb - Remind me why he hasn't been suspected to OMPL Ubers yet.
Chris 32156 - Goated 2v2 and Doubles player (idk about PiC specifically) for 4.5k. I stan the underpay.
Tea Guzzler - 5k for one of the best support slots available. Sign me up.
LordBox - 4.5k for LordBox. It's 4:30 AM so I will not elaborate.


Last year I tried to do a Fantasy OMPL League thing that failed because I was too busy doing... OMPL pretty much. Entirely my bad. Reason I bring it up is I wanna draft my dream team here.

Rules I will set for myself:
No managers (would be dumb)
Be cool
ANyway
Team:

Shiloh - 11
Chris32156 - 4.5
Fissure - 11
Tea Guzzler - 5
Osake - 5.5
TTTech - 13.5
Lily - 11
SammyCe123 - 21.5
Fraise - 6
TectonicDestroyer - 3
DeepFriedMagikarp - 5
Lepton - 3

Bo3 - shiloh / SammyCe123
AAA - Osake / shiloh
BH - TTTech
GG - Fraise / DeepFriedMagikarp / help I don't know GG
INH - Lily
MNM - TectonicDestroyer / SammyCe123
PIC - Chris32156
STAB - Fissure

Support - Tea Guzzler / SammyCe123 / Lepton
Subs - Lepton

Team is built around having Tea Guzzler and Sammy help multiple slots while having good clickers in as many slots as possible. shiloh will play one of AAA or Bo3 depending on what I need Sammy for, with Osake being a great secondary AAA, or primary if I decide to stick shiloh in Bo3 and Sammy in MnM or something.

What the team doesn't have is many subs. I'm also fairly clueless about the GG and Inh scene so uh... yeah. Lily is good, and I'm pretty sure I drafted support for her though. And everyone is hyping DFM right now.

I strongly considered:
LordBox - I had very good AAA already, but if I hadn't LordBox is right there and a serious steal. A pretty similar buy to Osake in that they're both good but rusty players who went for too little, and if I bought LordBox I wouldn't buy Osake for that reason.

MZ - Was weighing MZ vs shiloh. I have a very high opinion of shiloh, but MZ is also a good clicker and went for less. Would be my next choice for that same teamslot.

Jasprose - I want Jasprose in my teamcord more than anything and an excuse to hang out with them. But this isn't real so I don't have a teamcord.


I would like to specifically curse out the Darkrais and the Kyurems for not ending up with 0 at the end. Poor showing.

Fissure scrabble ratings where
 

Fissure

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Oh alright drampa's grandpa just because you asked so nicely...

Scrabble pr time!!! I will once again make a pr for the teams based on the longest word that I could make using the first letter of each player's name on each team. I threw in the points for the word in Scrabble as a way to break any potential ties.

1. W Virizzions with "dysplastic" at 10 letters. 18 points in Scrabble.
2. Rise Up Darkrais with (and I shit you not) "Blackface" at 9 letters. 22 points in Scrabble.
3. Malevolent Misdreavuses with "bacchants" at 9 letters. 18 points in Scrabble.
4. Dubwool Entendres with "asphalts" at 8 letters. 13 points in Scrabble.
5. Heart Takers with "highths" at 7 letters. 17 points in Scrabble.
6. Walking Wokes with "specks" at 6 letters. 14 points in Scrabble.
7. Black Diamond Kyurems with "crests" at 6 letters. 8 points in Scrabble.
8. Soul-Stealing Seven-Star Solgaleos with "pilaf" at 5 letters. 10 points in Scrabble.

Hopefully the darkrais do not, in fact, rise up
 
Post-Draft BH Team Rankings
I cba to do this for all tiers like last year but this is the cumulative rankings for BH. Basically got one representative from every team to rank every other team, took all the rankings removed top and bottom and averaged the rest. The ranks are for the team's BH slot as a whole so all support are considered. Shoutouts all the players that helped put this together
Team​
Average​
Highest​
Rank​
Rank​
Rank​
Rank​
Rank​
Lowest​
Full Sum​
Malevolent Misdreavuses​
1.6​
1
1​
1​
1​
2​
3​
4
13​
W Virizzions​
2​
1
1​
2​
2​
2​
3​
3
14​
Walking Wokes​
2.8​
2
2​
3​
3​
3​
3​
6
22​
Black Diamond Kyurems​
4​
1
1​
2​
4​
6​
7​
7
28​
Rise Up Darkrais​
4.4​
2
3​
4​
5​
5​
5​
5
29​
Heart Takers​
5.2​
4
4​
5​
5​
6​
6​
7
37​
Dubwool Entendres​
5.6​
4
4​
5​
6​
6​
7​
7
39​
Soul-Stealing Seven Star Solgaleos​
6.2​
4
5​
6​
6​
7​
7​
7
42​
(order is not in my own ranks)
Misdreavuses have premier starter + ample amounts of support. The specific support options make it harder to prepare and can generate interesting ideas.
Virizzions have premier starter, but in comparison to above there is less support. It is however arguable that cityscapes does not need support but having ideas bounced around is always a good thing, even for cityscapes standards.
Kyurems. I ranked them based on their w1 lineup but I know some others did not and thats where the wide disparity in their rankings come from. Theoretically they have premier starter and arguably the most support (with a starter that is pretty open to various ideas).
Darkrais have premier starter but support is absent. This could potentially be an issue depending on how much TTTech is willing to cook.
Heart Takers (Manaphys?) will depend on how their starter picks up and performs in this meta. Skillwise should not be a problem but support being mostly limited to Ivar who could be spread thin.
Dubwools have capable players and support but their current starter lacks current gen experience and among support only QT is fully up-to-date.
Solgaleos have capable starter but support can be severely lacking especially considering the tier in question is BH.
Now obviously the primary reason for this PR is just to see how wrong we can be at the end.
 
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drampa's grandpa

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Oh look a predictions format I can steal!

Want to get in on the overall predictions game? CLICK THIS LINK! This form will allow you to predict which teams will come in which place in the regular season.

Aggregate scores (I'm totally stealing Chessking's format except the removal of 1 because I will have so many) and the top three finishers will be given a shoutout by me at the end of the season.
After this week predictions will be cut off.

Any questions? Feel free to ask!

EDIT: Wait one moment while I edit the form please
Done
 

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