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Open Setup Classic Mafia - Game Thread

Right now we are 6v3v1 :

1) We gamble and hit werewolf, should be easy enough for town to win.
2) We gamble and hit the 3rd hidden mafia, same as voting Celever or a fairy
3) We gamble and hit town, it means we're 5v3v1
3.1) 2 town deaths, 3v3v1 not clear who wins but it's not town
3.2) 1 town death 1 mafia death it ends up as 4v2v1
4) We simply vote celever or a fairy worst case scenario we're 4v2v1, which is the same as 3.2 expect we didn't trust blindly in the werewolf to not fuck us over
 
AirC said:
Right now we are 6v3v1 :

1) We gamble and hit werewolf, should be easy enough for town to win.
2) We gamble and hit the 3rd hidden mafia, same as voting Celever or a fairy
3) We gamble and hit town, it means we're 5v3v1
3.1) 2 town deaths, 3v3v1 not clear who wins but it's not town
3.2) 1 town death 1 mafia death it ends up as 4v2v1
4) We simply vote celever or a fairy worst case scenario we're 4v2v1, which is the same as 3.2 expect we didn't trust blindly in the werewolf to not fuck us over
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Genuinely out of curiosity while you are here what do you think happens with werewolf top of your head in 3v3v1 after scenario 3, how do you predict this going?
 
Like if yall want to gamble this game on what is basically 1/8 odds of winning, 1/8 odds of being in a slightly better position, 6/8 odds of letting the werewolf chose who they want to win go ahead, but I won't
 
Tommy said:
apricity you don’t try to engage in conversation is my problem but rather you tell me what you went to do when I’m perfectly capable of thinking for myself and your method is not optimal as much as you want to believe,

If I would vote werewolf yes I would vote today but there is a legit chance it backfires

I’ve already given you chances this game to vote people I townread and it backfired, so you aren’t really running in a lot of positive credit here with your read on the game for me to rely on

I’m more than happy to engage with you if you genuinely want to engage but earlier on your engagement was telling me that you want to essentially vote myself or Joey and I’m not getting into a 1v1 with Joey on a day phase where I am essentially cleared to any reasonable player

You are more than welcome to push me, you are more than welcome to try work with me

What I am not going to do is let you try cash in goodwill while trying to vote me out for not agreeing with you in a game you’ve been off base on, because I’m obvious town and if you weren’t super biased against me you would see that

So like you can choose to have me permanent Poe even when I’m obviously town, or you can choose to work with me and not be hostile when I’m obviously town but not both
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This answers ZERO of the questions I asked of you in my post.
 
I’ve said many times your plan relies on a wolf who will play optimally, so if we go with it I want to help ensure that

But you refuse and try maximise chances someone who doesn’t (and it’s very clear people don’t understand it) gets the chance to win the game for mafia
 
Tommy said:
Genuinely out of curiosity while you are here what do you think happens with werewolf top of your head in 3v3v1 after scenario 3, how do you predict this going?
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3v3v1
If town dies, it's either a maf win or werewolf win, depends on the tiebreaker rules and how the last townie side either way it's bad
If maf die, same here, 3v2v1 even if mafia doesn't kill to try and vote out the werewolf town has no chances of winning
If werewolf dies maf wins
 
AirC said:
3v3v1
If town dies, it's either a maf win or werewolf win, depends on the tiebreaker rules and how the last townie side either way it's bad
If maf die, same here, 3v2v1 even if mafia doesn't kill to try and vote out the werewolf town has no chances of winning
If werewolf dies maf wins
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I have decided that it is not possible for a person to have drawn werewolf, who is constantly thinking about how they can win, to be this oblivious, and therefore I do not think you are the werewolf and I am going to ##vote joey
 
I can go in more details

1ST SCENARIO : TOWN DIES
2V3V1 (at night)
MAF CAN EITHER KILL TOWN OR NOT KILL
WEREWOLF NEED TO KILL MAFIA (otherwise mafia will win)

Either 1v2v1 (town loses, if you need me to explain that you're stupid) or 2v2v1
If 2v2v1
If town dies, ww kill maf and it's a 50/50 between maf or ww but town lost
If maf dies, ww kill 1 town, and it's 50/50 between maf or ww
If ww dies, maf wins

2ND SCENARIO : MAF DIES
3v2v1
WW kills town (either 2v2v1 or 1v2v1 see above)

3RD SCENARIO : WW DIES
3v3 GG MAF
 
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