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apricity said:
Hey.

Yeah, I want to hear where you’re at and why you think it’s AirC
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Right now I'm at airC because I think his play has been different enough from the other two games that I've played with him that I'm struggling to think how its town-sided. While I think realiti's airC vote from two cycles ago could be mafia agenda'd, it only checks out so long as we take the mafia's word about their gameplan at face value, whereas a town!realiti has reasons to want to solve outside of the guilties two cycles ago.


But to put this into perspective, airC was the same guy who *faked* a clear on me in the last game because he did not want to look bad as a town leader who kept getting blocked. I don't really buy the cluelessness that you're implying over here because I've seen him do sneaky plays too.
 
AirC it is very likely uo are going to f3 with bluedoom and realiti who are angling towards voting you, so if you are town you need to between now and then put in a bit of a shift to solve which of them is mafia and solve to showcase your own alignment, becuse the main reason you are being voted is lack of thread presence/content right now
 
Tommy said:
AirC it is very likely uo are going to f3 with bluedoom and realiti who are angling towards voting you, so if you are town you need to between now and then put in a bit of a shift to solve which of them is mafia and solve to showcase your own alignment, becuse the main reason you are being voted is lack of thread presence/content right now
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I mean I totally get it, I've not been much around this game but I have nothing to say to help my case, like literally 99% of my calls have been wrong and I've nothing more to show than that
 
bluedoom if you are town please do not judge a player in noc based on an oc game btw, popcorn is very fair and legit no offense to airc but calling him good or having an overly high standard based on the oc because he was "town leader" makes no sense

like he struggled greatly to understand the mech at all that game, behind closed doors and even in the end he gave you a false green check and was lucky he was right because he straight up lied about getting it on you right

and like the entire game was utterly confused over what was going on, and airc was solid in the popcorn game, so im not trying to pull the rug from under him but he is very much still a newbie who misses things and has exhibited getting confused and a lack of understanding in his most recent town game that was oc

i don't really want to harp on about this because i feel bad, given hes a new player and this is completely to be expected but you cannot treat him as someone who fully understands everything and its not fair on him to do that, for better or worse, and it worries me that you are trying to act like the oc he was popping off, like he did decent for being town leader in his first ever game in that he didn't leak to mafia etc but he missed a lot and wrongly reported mechanics that just happened to lucky coinflip into towns favour
 
Tommy said:
bluedoom if you are town please do not judge a player in noc based on an oc game btw, popcorn is very fair and legit no offense to airc but calling him good or having an overly high standard based on the oc because he was "town leader" makes no sense

like he struggled greatly to understand the mech at all that game, behind closed doors and even in the end he gave you a false green check and was lucky he was right because he straight up lied about getting it on you right

and like the entire game was utterly confused over what was going on, and airc was solid in the popcorn game, so im not trying to pull the rug from under him but he is very much still a newbie who misses things and has exhibited getting confused and a lack of understanding in his most recent town game that was oc

i don't really want to harp on about this because i feel bad, given hes a new player and this is completely to be expected but you cannot treat him as someone who fully understands everything and its not fair on him to do that, for better or worse, and it worries me that you are trying to act like the oc he was popping off, like he did decent for being town leader in his first ever game in that he didn't leak to mafia etc but he missed a lot and wrongly reported mechanics that just happened to lucky coinflip into towns favour
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tbh I don't have an overly high opinion of airC because he happened to be town leader in the previous OC game(that's realiti's argument)

I object against the idea that he's a clueless player is all.
 
Trying to paint me as a competent player when most of my games I only had a minor part in winning/almost threw the game idk where it comes from. Just feels like he wants to prove the way I'm playing is my scum gameplan
 
AirC said:
For me I'd say realiti, idk there are just been weird messages from him but again last time I said that I was talking about genisu so idk
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Even if you are wrong that’s fine for now but you need to expand and show your thought process to prove to these guys you are town

Realiti and bluedoom are going to vote you and even if you are wrong, they are experienced players and they will see logic hit you need to explain more please and quote posts and explain why you find individual ones are town or scummy so that they can understand your logic and find if it’s reasonable or not

Whoever is town in them is sued to playing with new players and even experienced players can be super off base, like me and Hal this game, like my early reads were terrible but I’m cleared now from my logic and posting, so please can you just like explain the thoughts more

I know it’s hard and it feels like it’s forced but forcing yourself to generate more really helps us find and read you, even if it feels you’re writing nonsense yourself just take some realiti and bluedoom posts and write some lines on what exactly you think about them please

Even if you are wrong it will really help so just do exactly what you think
 
AirC said:
Trying to paint me as a competent player when most of my games I only had a minor part in winning/almost threw the game idk where it comes from. Just feels like he wants to prove the way I'm playing is my scum gameplan
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Like I think you are competent to be clear I think it’s unfair wording to say incompetent but you are new and obviously not going to get semi complex role dynamics that you’ve never experienced before and that’s alright but

Then it can’t be used against you that you’re faking not getting stuff is my point, because you’ve never seen it before and sometimes (very) experienced players overestimate how quick players pick I’ll tuff that comes naturally to them because they are playing so long

And look maybe I’m dumb and you are mafia but yeah I think the push that you are able to understand on the same level as the experienced long time veterans isn’t justified
 
I feel like none of the discussion about airC has been about "why hasn't he picked up complex role dynamics" and more "why has he barely had any reads and what's the explanation behind the DbD vote?" Which I feel is a more reasonable expectation? CMIIW Tommy
 
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