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Opinions about Hyper Beam moves?

I was just thinking about this, and one other situation I can see them handy is on the starters because of their abilities (Blaze/Overgrow/Torrent)-which boosts their power up to 337.5 with STAB if their HP is low. However, the only starters I can see with good enough stats to abuse them with are Charizard (who is better off with Belly Drum), Typhlosion, Sceptile and Infernape (who, again, has better things to do)-not to mention you have to fall down below 1/3 (or was it 1/4 in DP?) HP before the ability activates.

At least somewhat of a good choice, or still too suicidal and/or situational to consider?
 
I fail to see how these are being compared to explosion. Explosion=Death. Hyperbeam=lose 1 turn. IF you think about it:

"sceptile used frenzy plant.
Azumarill fainted.
Player 2 sent out weavile
Weavile used swords dance
Sceptile must recharge
Player 1 sent out bronzong
Weavile used ice punch, NVE"

Sceptile lives. If it had exploded, it would have died, as would azumarill.

I agree that the hyper beams are very situational, and TOO situational for CB, but i don't think they are inferior explosions, as a set up turn doesnt mean your pokemon is dead at all.
 
It's not a guarantee that they'll sweep you if they set up, actually.
There are a lot of counters to set ups, namely Phazing/Hazing with some amazing defensive walls.

And worse yet, you're forcing your opponent to pick between setting up and possibly getting phazed or not having to worry about your "exploder" when he comes in a few turns later.

Honestly, the Hyper Beam moves are not explored because people don't want to play risky. And to be honest, risking a Garchomp SD or an Infernape NP or a Pory-Z NP or a T-Tar D-Dance is really, well, too big a risk most of the time.

But going back to my main point, if you prepare for them setting up with some copious Suicune, Weezing, Bronzong, or some people with immunities, you could end up with an exploder that just keeps on going (or forces the opponent to kill it instead of setting up).
 
On one of my BL teams, I run a CS blastoise with hydro cannon, I mostly use it because no sane person does that, and people are always confused and surprised by it. I like to outrun their shit and kill it in one hit with stab+torrent hydro cannon.
 
I think there are some good uses of recharge moves, but they are hard to some by. Someone just posted a Empoleon Set that makes epic use of the water recharge move. Giga Impact pwns on Slaking. Few other good uses exist
 
pewpewlazerzman said:
I think there are some good uses of recharge moves, but they are hard to some by. Someone just posted a Empoleon Set that makes epic use of the water recharge move. Giga Impact pwns on Slaking. Few other good uses exist
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you mean the one Chris posted? Sub then HCannon kinda like a reverse FPunch.
 
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