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how can I feel existential dread, it's my fear
If it's U-turning out, then it's better to just set hazards. Or fire off a Leech Seed into the switch in.Or just attack Beedrill with Gyro Ball and take at least 66% of HP.
If it's U-turning out, then it's better to just set hazards. Or fire off a Leech Seed into the switch in.Or just attack Beedrill with Gyro Ball and take at least 66% of HP.
I used the most defensive set with 0 Atk evs just to demonstrate how frail it is. Like Ajwf I believe that it is being overhyped. I'm curious to see some set with Fell Stinger tho.Gyro Ball OHKOs I believe.
So what do you guys think about mega gross? Obviously it and salamence will be top tier and probably the most common megas, but if (or when) salamence goes to ubers it will be all about that computer. 145 attack with tough claws, bulky as shit, fast as hell... too much for OU? Or just S tier? Obviously we can't know for sure yet but I'm just curious as to what others think.
Didn't mew always have trick?I was really, really hoping for a wish move tutor, gosh dang it GF, I want wish chansey IRL!
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Mew has trick now, definitely worth noting
I agree that Mega Beedrill won't be top tier OU, if it even makes OU at all. Its defenses are atrocious and movepool is limited. Also why use Mega Beedrill at all when you can use M Salamence, Pinsir, Metagross, etc.If we're talking about shit to take care of beedrill... the list isn't that short. Skarmory, Ferrothron, Scizor-mega are all OU counters to this thing. Aggron-mega shouldn't have an issue with unboosted drill run and recall mega metagross will be just fine taking this thing even as an all out attacker. But that's just steel types... another very good defensive typing takes Beedrill down: Ground/Flying. Landorus, Gliscor both will have their way with Beedrill and we know how good both of them are at taking physical threats. Also to mention, Aerodactyl-mega will resist both stabs as well.
Realistically, Beedrill is getting overhyped... It has so many clearcut checks/counters because bug/poison is still not a fantastic stab combination.
4 moves sindrome, yeah, Mence can suffer from it too. U can build mixed attacker, total attack or Roost bulk as Zard X, but instead of Zard X, u must use return/hyper voice/double edge to fully use the aerilate ability. U can't cover all the counters from Mence and build it to be OP bulk/roost at the same time.Mega Metagross is looking to be a powerhouse once its gets an agility/Rock Polish off, but I still think it suffers from the fact that it can only cover so much without being hard countered by other pokemon. You can't run Zen Headbutt, Ice Punch, Earthquake, Rock Slide, Thunderpunch, Meteor Mash all on the same set, so you have to pick and choose what you lose to
Yes, and awesome defensive Stats, two awesome Abilities (Imtimidate and Aerilate), a great Movepool, a great Speed, not many Counters and a great Set-Up Move.Mega Mence isn't broken... It only has 145 attack...
derp, my mistake, it was early in the morning, lolDidn't mew always have trick?
I was hoping for defog tutors but was also expecting tutors for all the silly gimmick moves XY added. Kinda surprised the list is pretty much identical to B2W2's. At least I can get a gen 6 native focus punch mawile now.
Mega mence is broken as shit lol. It can set up on so many pokemon in OU thanks to intimidate and the absurd defence boost (can survive outrage from garchomp) and once it sets up it's game over thanks to massive attack, amazing speed and aerilate. Nothing walls it either thanks to it's fantastic special attack stat and move pool This is one pokemon that I am confident will be ubers. I know theorymoning is typically frowned upon but this guy is so obviously busted. It makes mega lucario look bad.Mega Mence isn't broken... It only has 145 attack...
0 Atk Ferrothorn Gyro Ball (127 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Beedrill: 262-309 (96.6 - 114%) -- 81.3% chance to OHKOI used the most defensive set with 0 Atk evs just to demonstrate how frail it is. Like Ajwf I believe that it is being overhyped. I'm curious to see some set with Fell Stinger tho.
120 base Speed, Intimidate pre-Mega, very good defenses and a boosting ability as a Mega, Flying STAB, great movepool...Mega Mence isn't broken... It only has 145 attack...
+2 252+ Atk Bisharp Knock Off vs. 252 HP / 252+ Def Slowbro: 212-252 (53.8 - 63.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKOIs BlobBro/SloBlob going to be the next meta defensive duo standing in the way of offense? Slowbro eats physical attacks with ease while the blobs do the same with special attacks. the blobs are immune to ghost moves which are typically special based and Slowbro resists fighting moves that are typically physically based. Adamant Mega Heracross can't even OHKO max/max M-Slowbro after SR.
WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK.
Nope, I'm nipping this in the bud now before this gets released and people are butthurt about it getting suspected. You honestly thing that Salamence isn't completely broken? Tell me, what is switching into this monster? Flying is easily the most spamable type in the tier, with only Pokemon like Rotom-W, Skarm, and Tyranitar resisting it and being actually decent Pokemon. Now the first and most important thing about Salamence is that it doesn't have to run a setup set. If you want, you go mixed and at least 2HKO everything I just mentioned, and more. But that's certainly not to say that Mence CAN'T run a setup sweeper set too. Get to +1 and what exactly is stopping you? Heatran walls sets of Outrage Thrash Fire Blast DD, but what does it do back? Pray to God it gets a burn or take a huge hit from Thrash and Roar it out? Lando-T can't KO it with Rock Slide because of the massive bulk it has. Rotom-W can only burn it and gets 2HKOed by Outrage. Ferrothorn gets fried by Fire Blast and 2HKOed by Thrash. Slowbro gets 2HKOed and can t-wave I guess, but it will take massive damage in the process (I guess if it has Ice beam it can have a chance to OHKO, but it's not guaranteed, and with only a small amount of prior damage, Mence OHKOs). This is gen IV mence on steroids. You have no idea what it's going to throw at you. What if you switch in your Lando-T on it and suddenly it's a special set with Hyper Voice (yeah it fucking gets that shit. Hurricane, eat your heart out)? That's a fucking dead Lando-T. Actually, now that i think about it, a set of Outrage, Hyper Voice, Fire Blast, EQ doesn't sound half bad. It's bulk, amazing speed, stupid movepool, and obviously it's fantastic ability will make Mence one of the most broken Megas to have ever been in OU. This shit will make Mega Lucario look like a LC mon. Mence is without a doubt broken.Mega Mence isn't broken... It only has 145 attack...
Actually he shouldnt have it that hard considering he will still probably be the best DDer in OU because mega Mence is probably going to be way too broken for OUI have to say, one pokemon whose things doesn't seems so bright for it is zard x. In the current metagame its the best mon around but with new mons giving it hard competition(gross, salamance), new mons countering it(altaria, bro) and the fact the the 110 base speed become the new 100 it will have hard time to perform as good as it is now.
On another note, given the fact that most of those megas seems to be OU viable it seems it gonna be very annoying to choose your mega.
I thought it would of been 155 or more. It's weaker than mega Pinsir...Only 145 Attack? That's pathetic! It's outclassed by the mighty Choice Banded Chansey! Why would you use Mega Mence?!
Just for comparison; Bisharp has 125 base Attack
Yea, but mega gross, diancie, swampert, sceptile gonna give it hard time, and thats just things at the top of my head, there might be more.Actually he shouldnt have it that hard considering he will still probably be the best DDer in OU considering that mega Mence is probably going to be way to broken for OU
You do know that Aerialate boosts normal-type moves by 30% (and another 50% because of STAB), right?I thought it would of been 155 or more. It's weaker than mega Pinsir...