Broken is an accurate word for it. Like who thought those stats were a good idea? Also this calc might make you laugh because it's basically saying Garchomp is set up fodder
I was waiting for the time for a bulky DD variant of Mega-Mence to come out. How are other mega mence variants looking (i.e. offensive DD in particular)? I have yet to test it myself on showdown but is the bulky DD looking like the main set for Mega Mence (amongst so many potentially amazing variants)?
Based on that set I get the feeling that rhyperior is going to be in high demand whenever Oras comes out as one of few checks to salamence
this shit is why every team i make will have a focus sash cloyster on it as long as this is in ou
Might be worth replacing Substitute with Earthquake or Fire Blast because of resists like Tyranitar, Mega Metagross, Skarmory, etc running around. Otherwise though this thing is a beast.
Or Cotton Guard Mega Altaria. Seriously, this kind of shit is why I'm running Hyper Voice over Return.
Some men just want to watch the world burn... In all seriousness, Mega Mence is very bulky so it can even pull off a sub ddance set quite effectively. Rotom-W seems like a straight up counter to this thing though. At max attack jolly +6, return does 89-99% on 212 Def variants. Mixed Mence may very well be best Mence. Also to note, Salamence does get fire fang although it's kinda weak.
Do you happen to have any replays of Slowbro putting in work by any chance? I'm curious to see how Slowbro plays.Ive made this team and tested it w/ friends and its been doing really well. We don't really know what the meta will really be like, so its just fun to paste the team and get some thoughts.
http://pastebin.com/BEKzCCgd
So I really wanted to build around mega slowbro because its ridiculously bulky, and can abuse both its pre mevo form and its mevo form. The first thing I wanted to do was get a solid lati check, as well as rocks, as well as a really good ferrothorn counter. The team was slow, and I really wanted to try out gunk shot greninja, because the new set really exites me. The team was rly weak to lando i and mega sceptile, and bulky grasses were annoying so torn-t was a logical choice. I knew I would never get a counter to mega mence, so I wanted a check that could still check it throughout the game, even if it had dd's up its sleeve. I chose the freeze dry lure mamo because rotom was looking annoying as well. Lastly, I wanted a solid stallbreaker, and and all round useful glue that could check opposing mega slowbro's, mega man 'n' raikou ect. Mew was perfect.
So here is my very early ideas for an ORAS team. Its obviously flawed, because this is all theorymoning. Hazards are annoying, but I can play around them, same with mega sharpedo, but in early ORAS OU, you can't beat everything rofl. The team is geared to get rid of mega bro's counters, and for it to just set up cm's l8 game and comfortably run through my opposition.
It's really hard to pinpoint out the most powerful MegaMence set. Some do stand out, and they've already been discussed by others before. Still, I'm having a lot of fun with the offensive DD set, which is the most powerful set, imo. The only problem is, it's the set that most try to be prepared against.
Don't know why you're running adamant/lonely/modest since you don't outrun mega man that way
Only private battles and apparently balanced hackmons.
something to add to weaknesses is mixed wall breaker mega metagross, talon dies attempt two, and mandi can't safely defog against it. also gengar fucks your team in half(mandi can't defog on it and well, it should be obvious what happens to the rest of the team(this is taunt+lo 3 atks btw). its actually not too bad considering its stall.Just made an MAltaria stall thingy :
talon why u so fat
Talonflame @ Leftovers
Ability: Gale Wings
EVs: 248 HP / 212 SpD / 48 Spe
Careful Nature
- Taunt
- Will-O-Wisp
- Brave Bird
- Roost
Mandibuzz @ Leftovers
Ability: Overcoat
EVs: 252 HP / 136 Def / 108 SpD
Bold Nature
- Roost
- Defog
- Foul Play
- Toxic
Ferrothorn @ Leftovers
Ability: Iron Barbs
EVs: 252 HP / 204 Def / 52 SpD
Impish Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Leech Seed
- Power Whip
- Protect
Jirachi @ Leftovers
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP / 252 SpD / 4 Spe
Careful Nature
- Iron Head
- Body Slam
- Wish
- Protect
Quagsire @ Leftovers
Ability: Unaware
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Def / 4 SpD
Impish Nature
- Recover
- Toxic
- Scald
- Earthquake
Altaria @ Altariaite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 200 Def / 56 Spe
Impish Nature
- Roost
- Body Slam
- Heal Bell
- Perish Song
Basically kinda just a generic stall team with MAltaria as glue. This is actually a slightly altered version of a team I already use but which gets molested by Crawdaunt and CM Keldeo, so MAlt seems like a pretty good addition to it. Also helps deal with Crocune and CM MBro thanks to Perish Song. I have Body Slam on it because it's only slightly weaker than Hyper Voice, still gets the OHKO on MMedi, and has some nice utility to it. Speed is to outspeed Crawdaunt.
Weaknesses : MMedi is a pretty obvious threat to this team since I don't actually have a counter to it, but MAltaria checks decently and Talon can revenge kill so it's not all bad. Magnezone is a huge pain too, though I do have a solid counter in Quagsire, it still traps Ferrothorn which is all kinds of annoying (it's also the only real reason I have Quag>Slowbro). MPinsir can be a problem, but it's revenged by Talon and nothing on this team really lets it set up for free. Also, being able to keep rocks up+forcing Talon to come in probably messes with this team a lot too (I originally had Starmie which made getting rocks off a lot easier until I realised I literally didn't need it and would rather have an actual answer to Gengar). Twave Clefable/Ferrothorn are annoying since my anwser to these is Talon and it absolutely hates Para. Diggersby is probably a problem too but can be checked by Ferro. Heatran is also a massive pain. There are probably way more weaknesses I'm not aware of but I haven't really tested this team yet. Oh and MMence 6-0s it but that goes without saying lol.
Oh btw Gunkninja+MSableye core will be a thing and I will run it.
Well, Metagross needs to run a combination of Meteor Mash (for MAltaria), Hammer Arm or HP Fire (for Ferro), Earthquake (for Jirachi), Grass Knot (for Quag) and Zen Headbutt/Thunder Punch (for Talon) to actually 2HKO everything this team, so I think I cover it pretty well all things considered, though I do have to scout its moveset first.
Mega Aerodactyl, Mega Alakazam and Pokémon with 128 Speed or above are outpaced. Still, as pointed out, Naive is the best nature for the mixed attacking set, though I could see Modest working on all-special Mega Sceptile sets.
Like seriously stupidly strong fast mixed attacker with fantastic STAB, decent coverage with earth power, not bad defences for an offensive mon especially with resistances to fire, dark and flying and a dragon immunity and unable to be shut down by willo and twave
Mega Diancie
Typing: Rock/Fairy
Ability: Magic Bounce
Stats: 50/160/110/160/110/110
New Moves: Earth Power
Perhaps because of its enormous weakness to Scizor's Bullet Punch or just lacking the 'wow' factor of the likes of Salamence, Swampert and Slowbro.
Yeah but that's like... one counter. It only needs to watch out for that, Azu & Craw's Aqua Jet and Mega Swampert; and it's not exactly like there's Pokémon in OU who aren't afraid of all those. Aside from that you can really get going and wreck with your stupidly good STAB, countering Dragons and Birdspam alike.
