Resource ORAS OU Coverage/Lures Compendium - Read Post 72 page 3

[Karxrida]

0 SpA Suicune Extrasensory vs. 232 HP / 4 SpD Mega Venusaur: 90-108 (25 - 30%) -- guaranteed 4HKO

You'd have to be running max Special Attack Modest Suicune with a Life Orb to 2HKO Mega Venu after Rocks, plus Suicune doesn't exactly have room for coverage on its sets anyway. It also doesn't do much to Amoonguss (it can't outdamage Regenerator uninvested) nor Tentacruel, Breloom and Chesnaught don't like being burned, and Toxicroak isn't exactly common.

 

[Drop]

Mega Swampert - Ice Punch (Celebi, Breloom, Mandibuzz)

I'm pretty sure standard M-Swampert runs Ice Punch already. In any case, Ice Punch does less than half to Celebi and Mandibuzz is hit harder by Waterfall in rain (You are using it in rain if you're not the Curse set...right?) and is also not 2HKOed by Ice Punch unless you get good rolls after rocks, meaning that Breloom is the only thing that Ice Punch destroys anyways.

 

[jordanthejq12]

I'm pretty sure standard M-Swampert runs Ice Punch already. In any case, Ice Punch does less than half to Celebi and Mandibuzz is hit harder by Waterfall in rain (You are using it in rain if you're not the Curse set...right?) and is also not 2HKOed by Ice Punch unless you get good rolls after rocks, meaning that Breloom is the only thing that Ice Punch destroys anyways.

This compendium is including not only lures, but also standard coverage--in other words, any attack (or status move in some cases) a Pokemon in this tier would ever want to run. Thus the inclusion of Ice Punch.

 

[Talpr0ne]

Ice Punch real targets aren't those though. It's mostly for Garchomp and Lati@s.

 

[nameless90]

Crawdant is listed twice under Latios, Energy Ball.

 

[Karxrida]

Just nuke the fucker with Draco.

 

[jordanthejq12]

Just nuke the fucker with Draco.

Hope you weren't planning on staying in.

 

[Ramses]

Hope you weren't planning on staying in.

A Steel-type is coming in next anyway.

 

[Froggyboy]

MegaGross and Jirachi should be removed from Tyranitar's EQ list for obvious reasons.

 

[Kav]

If you mean crunch, EQ still forces them out and has use in hitting stuff trying to switch in on a resist. Ttars EQ section alone has like 7 things that could shrug off a dark move.

 

[Froggyboy]

Yeah, EQ still hits them, but these lists should only have mons you can't hit with your STAB, or at the least OHKO. In T-Tar's case, Crunch hits Metagross and Jirachi for 10% more damage than EQ, so unless you are running Earthquake on some defensive set that doesn't have Crunch, they should be removed from that section.

 

[yuruuu]

Stone Edge:

maybe torn-t, thundurus, dragonite, gyara, but those get hit pretty hard by knock off too

 

[MANNAT]

Why does chary have hp rock listed instead of ancientpower?

 

[asdfCookie]

Why does chary have hp rock listed instead of ancientpower?

Because spdef talon easily roosts and pp stalls all 8 ancient powers

 

[MANNAT]

Because spdef talon easily roosts and pp stalls all 8 ancient powers

doesn't it do the same with hp rock?

 

[TPP]

Why does chary have hp rock listed instead of ancientpower?

Check the 3rd page, but Ancient Power gets PP Stalled pretty easily by Talonflame

Knock Off Manaphy for Chansey and possibly AV Users (Torn-T and Raikou) as well
Signal Beam for Raikou and Mega Manectric for Celebi and Hoopa-U
Knock Off Alakazam for Torn-T, Raikou, and Chansey
Crawdaunt uses Superpower to lure Mega Gyarados

I think you shouldn't list what a move hits unless it hits the target harder than STAB and is notable, like Dragonite under Mega Alakazam for Dazzling Gleam, Psychic 2HKOes it anyway so it's pretty unnecessary. There are occasions where a SE Coverage move is better than STAB, like Shadow Ball for Mega Medicham.
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I did a little. I removed what each move DID NOT (IF REQUIRED) Lure and ADDED what it does

Not Many

Mega Charizard X Moves/Lures
Iron Tail:

Earthquake:

Outrage:

Clefable Moves/Lures
Focus Blast:

Knock Off:

Manaphy Moves/Lures (iffy since I based this if Tail Glow is run)
Shadow Ball:

Dazzling Gleam:

Energy Ball:

Ice Beam:

Mega Alakazam Moves/Lures
Dazzling Gleam:

Shadow Ball:

Energy Ball:

I'll probably just focus on making sure stab moves do more than the coverage move, and most of the mons listed resist the usual stab move with a couple of exceptions that I can take out. Also, bludz and I decided to make this a coverage move, so like Mega Diancie can still go under EQ for Mega Charizard X, mainly because it does a lot more than Flare Blitz and Dragon Claw. Also, why'd you take out a lot of coverage moves like Psychic on Manaphy?

 

[MANNAT]

Check the 3rd page, but Ancient Power gets PP Stalled pretty easily by Talonflame

oh ok, i got it

 

[Ramses]

I guess this proves worth Team Pokepals

A-F

Mega Aerodactyl Moves/Lures
Fire Fang:

Thunder Fang:

Ice Fang:

Aqua Tail:

Earthquake:

Alakazam Moves/Lures
HP Fire:

Dazzling Gleam:

Shadow Ball:

Focus Blast:

Energy Ball:

Mega Alakazam Moves/Lures
HP Fire:

Dazzling Gleam:

Shadow Ball:

Focus Blast:

Energy Ball:

Mega Altaria Moves/Lures
Fire Blast:

Earthquake:

Outrage:

Azelf Moves / Lures
Fire Blast:

Dazzling Gleam:

Thunderbolt:

Grass Knot:

Shadow Ball:

Azumarill Moves/Lures
Return:

Knock Off:

Superpower:

Mega Beedrill Moves / Lures
Drill Run:

Knock Off:

Bisharp Moves/Lures
Low Kick:

Aerial Ace:

Grass Knot:

Breloom Moves / Lures
Rock Tomb:

Facade:

Celebi Moves/Lures
Earth Power:

HP Fire:

Dazzling Gleam:

Shadow Ball:

Signal Beam:

Mega Charizard X Moves/Lures
Iron Tail:

Thunder Punch:

Earthquake:

Outrage:

Mega Charizard Y Moves/Lures
Earthquake:

Dragon Pulse:

Focus Blast:

HP Rock:

Solar Beam:

Clefable Moves/Lures
Flamethrower / Fire Blast:

Thunderbolt:

Focus Blast:

Ice Beam:

Knock Off:

Shadow Ball:

Crawdaunt Moves / Lures
Superpower:

Aerial Ace:

Mega Diancie Moves/Lures
HP Fire:

Earth Power:

Psychic / Psyshock:

Diggersby Moves / Lures
Fire Punch:

(Magnet Rise)
Wild Charge:

Knock Off:

Dragalge Moves / Lures
Focus Blast:

HP Fire:

Dragonite Moves / Lures
Iron Head:

Thunder Punch:

Fire Punch:

Superpower:

Excadrill Move / Lure
Return:

Feraligatr Moves/Lures
Low Kick / Superpower:

Crunch:

Ice Punch:

Aqua Jet:

I put them in Alphabetical order, added new Lures, and expanded upon what can be lured. I'm prepared to go further if this doesn't prove worth lol. I'm 90% sure I missed a few things

 

[TPP]

Adding KidMagic to the crew

 

[Ramses]

G-L

Mega Gallade Moves/Lures
Poison Jab:

(DDD)
Ice Punch:

Knock Off:

Garchomp Moves/Lures
Iron Tail:

Stone Edge:

Fire Blast:

(Magnet Rise)

Mega Garchomp Moves/Lures
Iron Tail:

Stone Edge:

Fire Blast:

(Magnet Rise)
Draco Meteor:

Mega Gardevoir Moves/Lures
HP Fire:

Shadow Ball:

Focus Blast:

Gengar Moves/Lures
Icy Wind:

Focus Blast:

Dazzling Gleam:

Gliscor Moves / Lures
Knock Off:

Ice Fang:

Stone Edge:

Gothitelle Moves / Lures
Energy Ball / Grass Knot:

Thunderbolt:

Hidden Power Fire:

Shadow Ball:

Signal Beam:

Gyarados Moves / Lures
Bounce:

Ice Fang:

Mega Gyarados Moves / Lures
Bounce:

Ice Fang:

Earthquake:

Hawlucha Moves / Lures
Stone Edge:

Heatran Moves/Lures
Solar Beam:

HP Ice:

Earth Power:

Stone Edge:

Mega Heracross Moves / Lures
Rock Blast:

Bullet Seed:

Hoopa-U Moves/Lures
Thunderbolt:

Fire Punch:

Grass Knot:

Gunk Shot:

Drain Punch:

Focus Blast:

Hydreigon Moves/Lures
Superpower:

Flash Cannon:

Fire Blast:

Earth Power:

Jirachi Moves/Lures
Fire Punch:

Drain Punch:

Ice Punch:

Energy Ball:

Natural Gift (Ground):

Thunderbolt:

Kabutops Moves/Lures
Low Kick / Superpower:

Aerial Ace:

Keldeo Moves/Lures
Icy Wind:

HP Electric:

HP Bug:

HP Flying:

Kingdra Moves / Lures
Ice Beam:

Kyurem-Black Moves/Lures
HP Fire:

Iron Head:

Outrage:

Earth Power:

Fusion Bolt:

Landorus-T Moves/Lures
Hidden Power Ice:

Grass Knot:

Smack Down:

Toxic:

Stone Edge:

Knock Off:

Superpower:

Punishment:

Latias Moves/Lures
HP Fire:

Earthquake:

Surf:

Thunderbolt:

Energy Ball:

Hidden Power Fighting:

Latios Moves/Lures
HP Fire:

Earthquake:

Surf:

Thunderbolt:

Energy Ball:

Hidden Power Fighting:

Mega Lopunny Moves/Lures
Iron Tail:

Ice Punch:

Toxic:

Lucario Moves/Lures
Crunch:

Ice Punch:

I'm going to remove all Pokemon below b- to acknowledge your rule and the fact that they aren't even common enough to consider while teambuilding. I'll probably rebel and add some more popular stuff like Nido and Metagross (moving up anyway)

 

[Ramses]

M-S

/

Magneton / Magnezone Moves / Lures
Hidden Power Fire:

Signal Beam:

Mamoswine Moves / Lures
Superpower:

Manaphy Moves / Lures
HP Fire:

Psychic:

Shadow Ball:

Dazzling Gleam:

Energy Ball:

Ice Beam:

Manectric Moves / Lures
Flamethrower / Overheat:

Hidden Power Ice:

Signal Beam:

Mega Medicham Moves / Lures
Bullet Punch:

Thunder Punch:

Ice Punch:

/

(M)Metagrass Moves / Lures
Thunder Punch:

Grass Knot:

Ice Punch:

Hammer Arm:

Earthquake:

Mew Moves / Lures
Flamethrower / Fire Blast:

Ice Beam:

Dazzling Gleam:

Thunderbolt:

Earth Power:

Aura Sphere:

Knock Off:

Gunk Shot:

Shadow Ball:

Omastar Moves / Lures
Knock Off:

Ice Beam:

Mega Pidgeot Moves / Lures
Heat Wave:

Hidden Power Ground:

Steel Wing:

U-Turn:

Mega Pinsir Moves / Lures
Close Combat:

Earthquake:

Stone Edge:

Politoed Moves / Lures
Psychic:

Ice Beam:

Raikou Moves / Lures
Extrasensory:

Hidden Power Ice:

Hidden Power Fire:

Shadow Ball:

Signal Beam:

Reuniclus Moves / Lures
Shadow Ball:

Focus Blast:

Energy Ball:

Thunderbolt:

Flash Cannon:

Signal Beam:

Mega Sceptile Moves / Lures
Hidden Power Fire:

Focus Blast:

Rock Slide:

Earthquake:

/

(M)Scizor Moves / Lures
Superpower:

Knock Off:

Pursuit:

Aerial Ace:

Scolipede Moves / Lures
Earthquake:

Aqua Tail:

Rock Slide:

Superpower:

Serperior Moves / Lures
HP Ground:

HP Rock:

HP Fire:

Dragon Pulse:

Knock Off:

Mega Sharpedo Moves / Lures
Zen Headbutt:

Poison Jab:

Ice Fang:

/

(M)Slowbro Moves / Lures
Ice Beam:

Fire Blast:

Grass Knot:

Shadow Ball:

Slowking Moves / Lures
Ice Beam:

Fire Blast:

Grass Knot:

Shadow Ball:

Starmie Moves / Lures
Thunderbolt:

Dazzling Gleam:

Ice Beam:

Hidden Power Fire:

Grass Knot:

Mega Swampert Moves / Lures
Ice Punch:

Low Kick / Superpower / Power Up Punch:

Sylveon Moves / Lures
Hidden Power Fire:

Hidden Power Ground:

Shadow Ball:

Psyshock:

Yo heads up, when I'm completely done with the sorting you should reupload them into the OP cuz more than likely I made a few corrections and additions.