So I have an obscure question - what coverage is best for SD Breloom under Trick Room? I'll hide the following discussion so there's not a huge post clogging up this thread, but it explains many of the details I'm concerned about - so please read them over if you're critical of the idea of Breloom on TR in general or what the different options I'm considering can be used for. Also, please quote the post when you respond so it's flagged up as an alert.
TL:DR What set is best on Breloom on an offensive Trick Room team that prefers set up and punching holes to switches - Natural Gift with lansat berry, Natural Gift with lum berry, Spore, or lum berry with Rock Tomb? Mainly I'm leaning towards the two Natural Gift options, so give them a bit more weight unless you have compelling reasons for the other two (see the hidden bit for my thoughts).
I like Breloom on my TR team because it's strongly anti-Bisharp, who most Trick Room mons don't like (ghosts and psychics get hit by the dark STABs, fairies get hit by the steel STAB, porygon2 gets its Eviolite knocked off), it's anti-subs, sashes and some sturdies (Donphan mainly, when it occasionally crops up on the ladder) and on top of that it has priority with Mach Punch out of TR - which if you're opponent is stupid enough to allow you to get to +4 or +6 with can be a nice win con.
Anyway, currently I'm running Natural Gift and lansat berry. With it I can lure in Mega Venusaur in a treat and OHKO any offensive variant at the +2 from my SD on the switch - very nice seeing as I haven't seen defensive variants anywhere on the ladder. Mach Punch also gives me a solid answer to the Heatran that M-Venusaur is often paired with. 100BP flying is very nice neutral coverage, allowing me to OHKO things like Latios and Tornadus everytime after rocks - which Rock Tomb sometimes can't with Latios. Also the ability of a lansat berry isn't dead weight - when it activates you have increased critical hit chance, which is pretty scary when couple with a multi-strike move like Bullet Seed. Lastly, it also lets me eat up Chesnaught and other Brelooms - which for my team is very useful (Breloom is a pain to TR teams in general, with it's fast Spore that puts a lot of your stuff to sleep).
My next option is Natural Gift with lum berry - again flying type but with a BP drop to 80. Lum berry is obviously a huge benefit, my other physical sweeper is BD Azumarill who hates burns. With a lum berry, I no longer have to worry about burns from Rotom-W's WoW or Scald or Lava Plume (I often Memento into my sweepers, which allows Breloom to set up even on Heatran if needs be - but the burn chance does hurt). Without a lum berry option, I'm forced to defer to my special attackers in a lot of circumstances or risk a burn. In a match I played tonight, Breloom got burned by a nerfed Suicune because I needed the SD to make headway through his team so I thought it was work the risk (and sacrificing Azumarill on that chance is far worse, plus it had already Calm Minded so I couldn't too easily send in my special cleaners because of the SDef boosts).
However, the BP drop is noticeable, and things like M-Venusaur and Tornadus are no longer OHKOed. This really is a significant whack to me busting through teams with this guy which kills momentum, even if M-Venusaur and Tornadus become much more revengeable so to speak.
Other options include Spore - but I find it always bites you in the ass if you're looking to get enough SDs in to sweep with Breloom and doesn't solve the Mega Venusaur problem, or Rock Tomb with lum berry - but again that doesn't solve the Mega Venusaur probelm. Breloom has literally no other worthy coverage options.
Anyway, currently I'm running Natural Gift and lansat berry. With it I can lure in Mega Venusaur in a treat and OHKO any offensive variant at the +2 from my SD on the switch - very nice seeing as I haven't seen defensive variants anywhere on the ladder. Mach Punch also gives me a solid answer to the Heatran that M-Venusaur is often paired with. 100BP flying is very nice neutral coverage, allowing me to OHKO things like Latios and Tornadus everytime after rocks - which Rock Tomb sometimes can't with Latios. Also the ability of a lansat berry isn't dead weight - when it activates you have increased critical hit chance, which is pretty scary when couple with a multi-strike move like Bullet Seed. Lastly, it also lets me eat up Chesnaught and other Brelooms - which for my team is very useful (Breloom is a pain to TR teams in general, with it's fast Spore that puts a lot of your stuff to sleep).
My next option is Natural Gift with lum berry - again flying type but with a BP drop to 80. Lum berry is obviously a huge benefit, my other physical sweeper is BD Azumarill who hates burns. With a lum berry, I no longer have to worry about burns from Rotom-W's WoW or Scald or Lava Plume (I often Memento into my sweepers, which allows Breloom to set up even on Heatran if needs be - but the burn chance does hurt). Without a lum berry option, I'm forced to defer to my special attackers in a lot of circumstances or risk a burn. In a match I played tonight, Breloom got burned by a nerfed Suicune because I needed the SD to make headway through his team so I thought it was work the risk (and sacrificing Azumarill on that chance is far worse, plus it had already Calm Minded so I couldn't too easily send in my special cleaners because of the SDef boosts).
However, the BP drop is noticeable, and things like M-Venusaur and Tornadus are no longer OHKOed. This really is a significant whack to me busting through teams with this guy which kills momentum, even if M-Venusaur and Tornadus become much more revengeable so to speak.
Other options include Spore - but I find it always bites you in the ass if you're looking to get enough SDs in to sweep with Breloom and doesn't solve the Mega Venusaur problem, or Rock Tomb with lum berry - but again that doesn't solve the Mega Venusaur probelm. Breloom has literally no other worthy coverage options.
TL:DR What set is best on Breloom on an offensive Trick Room team that prefers set up and punching holes to switches - Natural Gift with lansat berry, Natural Gift with lum berry, Spore, or lum berry with Rock Tomb? Mainly I'm leaning towards the two Natural Gift options, so give them a bit more weight unless you have compelling reasons for the other two (see the hidden bit for my thoughts).
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