HailFall
my cancer is sun and my leo is moon
i would only run air balloon on exca if the team was weak to opposing sand honestly its a fairly niche choice
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air balloon exca also helps with like overload cores like Exca+Lop since you setup on Lando-T, who is one of the most common offensive checks for Mega Lop.
HailFall
my cancer is sun and my leo is moon
leaf storm is only used to ohko manaphy on assault vest sets since it lives +3 ice beam
Really depends on what you want to hit. Hidden powers are mostly used for luring so conflict with other moves is rare if any. Tangrowths main job anyway is to absorb hits so if you use leaf-storm chances are your swtiching out afterwards anyway because its done its job by absorbing a hit, maybe throwing out leafstorm or Hidden power and then switching if you decide not to double.
If Baton Pass gets banned, would it be enough of a change for a Blaziken retest?
No because Blaziken was banned for reasons other than Baton Pass
If you have something to spread Paralysis, you may be able to get away with using Modest. I took the liberty of finding everything that outspeeds max speed Modest Mega Gardevoir, so if there's nothing on the list that you need Mega Gardevoir to check, you should be okay with using Modest
328 / Celebi, Charizard (Mega-X), Charizard (Mega-Y), Gardevoir (Mega), Manaphy, Medicham (Mega), Victini / 100 / +Spe / 252 / 0327 / Celebi, Gardevoir (Mega), Manaphy / 100 / +Spe / 252 / 0 / 30 IV [Hidden Power Fire]
317 / Kyurem-Black / 95 / +Spe / 252 / 0
315 / Terrakion / 108 / Neutral / 252 / 0
311 / Garchomp (Mega) / 92 / +Spe / 252 / 0
310 / Charizard (Mega-X), Volcarona / 100 / +Spe / 184 / 0
309 / Landorus-Therian / 91 / +Spe / 252 / 0
309 / Lopunny, Pinsir (Mega), Sharpedo (Mega) / 105 / Neutral / 252 / 0
306 / Lucario / 90 / +Spe / 252 / 0
303 / Garchomp / 102 / Neutral / 252 / 0
303 / Diancie (Mega), Metagross (Mega) / 110 / Neutral / 188 / 0
302 / Excadrill / 88 / +Spe / 252 / 0
301 / Thundurus-Therian / 101 / Neutral / 252 / 0
300 / Latias (Mega) / 110 / Neutral / 176 / 0
299 / Charizard, Charizard (Mega-X), Charizard (Mega-Y), Entei, Gardevoir (Mega), Medicham (Mega), Staraptor, Victini / 100 / Neutral / 252 / 0
317 / Kyurem-Black / 95 / +Spe / 252 / 0
315 / Terrakion / 108 / Neutral / 252 / 0
311 / Garchomp (Mega) / 92 / +Spe / 252 / 0
310 / Charizard (Mega-X), Volcarona / 100 / +Spe / 184 / 0
309 / Landorus-Therian / 91 / +Spe / 252 / 0
309 / Lopunny, Pinsir (Mega), Sharpedo (Mega) / 105 / Neutral / 252 / 0
306 / Lucario / 90 / +Spe / 252 / 0
303 / Garchomp / 102 / Neutral / 252 / 0
303 / Diancie (Mega), Metagross (Mega) / 110 / Neutral / 188 / 0
302 / Excadrill / 88 / +Spe / 252 / 0
301 / Thundurus-Therian / 101 / Neutral / 252 / 0
300 / Latias (Mega) / 110 / Neutral / 176 / 0
299 / Charizard, Charizard (Mega-X), Charizard (Mega-Y), Entei, Gardevoir (Mega), Medicham (Mega), Staraptor, Victini / 100 / Neutral / 252 / 0
Depends. Personally, I think the Speed tie with opposing base 100s as well as outpacing Excadrill is pretty important but it mostly depends on your team.
What are some good spreads for jellicent? I was thinking of running either 252 Hp/ 252 Def or 252Hp/ 172 Def/ 80 Speed. The latter is good for skarmory but i'm unsure if that is really necessary. Any recommendations?
Run 88 speed for band azu and beyond that you can either fully invest in one side or split the EVs.
Thank you.
Imagine if Goodra was in Gen 4 (in the scenario where Gen 6 moves and Abilities don't exist yet). How well would it perform in the Gen 4 OU conditions?
EDIT: Is this the wrong place to ask this question? If so, where should I be asking it.
EDIT: Is this the wrong place to ask this question? If so, where should I be asking it.
That's more of a question for RoA SQSA if anything.
Hi guys !
I am pretty new to competitive pokemon and i'd want to make a nice team to begin (on 3ds ).
After some searchs, I thought about this one:
Mega charizard X @ charizardite X
Tough claws
-dragon dance
-dragon claw
-Flare blitz
-Roost
Ferrothorn @ leftovers
Iron barbs
-Leech seed
-stealth rock
-Gyro ball
-power whip
Azumarill @ choice band
Huge power
-play rough
-waterfall
-aqua jet
-superpower
Excadrill @ life orb
Sand rush
-rapid spin
-earthquake
-Iron head
-rock slide
Tyranitar @ choice scarf
Sand stream
-stone edge
-pursuit
-crunch
-superpower
Tornadus-T @ assault vest
Regenerator
-hurricane
-heat wave
-U-turn
-knock off
This team would be centered on Zard x , with Excadrill as a rapid spinner, boosted by Tyranitar's sand . Azumarill provides fairy and water STAB, Ferrothorn would be a physical wall and rock stealth user. Finally, Tornadus-T plays the role of offensive pivot, while being able to tank special attacks with the assault vest, and damaging hard fighting and grass types with hurricane.
Note that I didn't post in RMT because I haven't tried the team yet.
EVs are not there, this is simply for a general view of the team.
So my questions are:
1- Do you think this is a decent team for 3ds online battles ?
2- Is the lack of special sweeper a big issue ?
Thank you very much for your answers.
PS: sorry for my English, which is not my native language
I am pretty new to competitive pokemon and i'd want to make a nice team to begin (on 3ds ).
After some searchs, I thought about this one:
Mega charizard X @ charizardite X
Tough claws
-dragon dance
-dragon claw
-Flare blitz
-Roost
Ferrothorn @ leftovers
Iron barbs
-Leech seed
-stealth rock
-Gyro ball
-power whip
Azumarill @ choice band
Huge power
-play rough
-waterfall
-aqua jet
-superpower
Excadrill @ life orb
Sand rush
-rapid spin
-earthquake
-Iron head
-rock slide
Tyranitar @ choice scarf
Sand stream
-stone edge
-pursuit
-crunch
-superpower
Tornadus-T @ assault vest
Regenerator
-hurricane
-heat wave
-U-turn
-knock off
This team would be centered on Zard x , with Excadrill as a rapid spinner, boosted by Tyranitar's sand . Azumarill provides fairy and water STAB, Ferrothorn would be a physical wall and rock stealth user. Finally, Tornadus-T plays the role of offensive pivot, while being able to tank special attacks with the assault vest, and damaging hard fighting and grass types with hurricane.
Note that I didn't post in RMT because I haven't tried the team yet.
EVs are not there, this is simply for a general view of the team.
So my questions are:
1- Do you think this is a decent team for 3ds online battles ?
2- Is the lack of special sweeper a big issue ?
Thank you very much for your answers.
PS: sorry for my English, which is not my native language
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Just read the dissection of BC wish killer's team on the article page and i'm confused. The article says the team is considered a joke by many tour and ladder players but why? For a team that everybody knows every member's sets, has been around since early XY, been used by a single person (bloody's fake is bc wish killer, right?) so people know how he plays (always lead heatran) to still consistently be in the top 10 of the OU ladder with GXE 90% or higher, shouldnt the team be considered one of the best (if not THE best) of this gen?
I dont talk to any ladder players or tour players so i'm not sure if it's an inside joke to call this team a joke but i'm confused.
I dont talk to any ladder players or tour players so i'm not sure if it's an inside joke to call this team a joke but i'm confused.
Can you provide a link to the article in question? I have never heard of such a team.
http://www.smogon.com/articles/a-team-dissection
I'm sure most high ladder players have faced this team before
HailFall
my cancer is sun and my leo is moon
1500-1600 is still low-mid ladder but honestly you shouldnt worry about ladder too much. people dont start consistently using viable teams until pretty high up and its easy to lose to hax/blatantly unviable stuff that just happens to destroy you.
generally try to use teams not too weak to offense as thats super common. its also good to pack a solid way of decimating stall. also avoid using teams that take too much brainpower to use because its easy to go on autopilot. if you start tilting (going on a loss streak) and/or getting mad take a break and do something else. thats rlly all i can offer u in terms of advice but gl man.
Is there any recent tutorials on teambuilding ? With frameworks and such.
Not any really recent tutorials on teambuilding, but read through the posts of people posting their teams in the OLT Discussion Thread, they show their thought processes when building and it helps if you want to learn building a lot.