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Lower Tiers ORAS RU Checks Compendium V2

Umm... Mawile is currently listed as a GSI, and I was asking if it should be an SSI, which, imo, it should be. I don't know who mod-edited this, but they're right about the gourgiest thing. I'm assuming they're referencing a Tyrantrum locked into outrage, so that would be an SSI if so, right?
Escav is a trrum switch in when locked into outrage. Anyways yeah you're right about Mawile. my b. As for Diancie, I'm sure they don't run MAX SpD, and this Shark can beat it. As for gourgeist, rofl sorry about that I'll fix it
e:turns out I've been living under a rock. Max SpD Diancies the set. my bad, fixed op. Thanks
 
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Abomasnow-Mega:
Put Poliwrath in NSI or remove it entirely. Blizzard + Giga Drain kills it and Circle Throw not only has negative priority but does less than half to Mega Abomasnow lol.

Absol:
Remove Hitmontop, Hariyama, Tangrowth, Poliwrath, and Blastoise from GSI. The fighting types here have a chance of getting 2HKOed from Play Rough. Tangrowth and Blastoise both die to +2 Knock Off unless Tangrowth is defensive, but defensive does like ~57% max with Giga Drain. I don't think Focus Blast / Leaf Storm defensive Tangrowth is relevant enough at all to keep it a GSI. Would say remove Gurdurr from GSI as well since it dies to two Play Roughs, but it does ~82% max with Mach Punch which could ko Absol after 2 rounds of Life Orb recoil so idk, up to you I guess.

Add Mawile to GSI. It can actually take a +1 Superpower and ko with Play Rough after 1 round of Life Orb recoil.

Delphox:
Iffy on Slowking being a GSI to Delphox since AV sucks and defensive can't really take 2 Specs Grass Knots or take on CM Delphox with Grass Knot too well but whatever. Would add Diancie to GSI because it doesn't get 2HKOed from Specs Delphox and wipes it out with Diamond Storm.

Drapion:
Remove Hitmontop, Poliwrath, and Weezing from GSI. Poliwrath doesn't do enough with Scald to switch into this thing reliably and Storm Throw does like nothing and isn't a very reliable way of beating SD Drapion. Hitmontop has a chance of getting 2HKOed straight up from +2 Drapion since it relies on Close Combat to damage it at all. Weezing is 3HKOed by +2 Knock Off and with a Lum Berry, Drapion won't get burned until after the second Knock Off and Flamethrower does way too little so Weezing loses.

Durant:
Qwilfish is currently both GSI and SSI. Remove Qwilfish from GSI. Can get 2HKOed by Life Orb Thunder Fang, especially after rocks.

Eelektross:
Mega Camerupt is not a GSI as long as Aqua Tail is a thing.

Exploud:
No mention of Mega Steelix or Rhyperior anywhere? NSI at least.

Fletchinder:
No idea how stuff like Rhyperior and Tyrantrum are not GSI. Pokemon like these can switch into Fletchinder more than once and kill it regardless of the burn. Just because they're crippled by a burn doesn't make them any less of a GSI. Fix please.

Flygon:
Bronzong can get 2HKOed by Life Orb Fire Blast, so SSI. I think the whole Iron Tail thing is a joke honestly but whatever.

Houndoom:
Gastrodon can get 2HKOed by +2 Dark Pulse after rocks so SSI.

Jolteon:
In what world is Jolteon a GSI to Jolteon lol. I hope I don't have to explain how it isn't a GSI.

Sharpedo:
Poliwrath can get 2HKOed by Zen Headbutt so SSI.

Virizion:
+2 Stone Edge 2HKOes Trevenant and Trevenant doesn't OHKO with Shadow Claw so SSI.

Just a few things that caught my attention. ;)
 
Abomasnow-Mega:
Put Poliwrath in NSI or remove it entirely. Blizzard + Giga Drain kills it and Circle Throw not only has negative priority but does less than half to Mega Abomasnow lol.
Offensive Poliwrath is a SSI to Abomasnow; switch into Blizzard and OHKO with Focus Blast.
252+ SpA Life Orb Poliwrath Focus Blast vs. 8 HP / 0 SpD Mega Abomasnow: 359-424 (111.1 - 131.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Choice Specs Poliwrath Focus Blast vs. 8 HP / 0 SpD Mega Abomasnow: 414-488 (128.1 - 151%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Other than that, I've fixed everything else. Thanks :)
 
By Pokemon like Tyrantrum and Rhyperior, I meant all Pokemon similarly neutered by a burn but are still GSIs to Fletchinder. So like Blastoise, Barbaracle, Slowking, Magneton, etc.

Braviary:
Bronzong and Diancie both lose to SubBU Braviary. Diancie doesn't do enough with Diamond Storm to beat it and Bronzong can't do anything to it except Psywave I guess? Which still doesn't break Braviarys Substitute consistently. I guess that means Braviary has no GSIs? ._.

Samurott:
Samurott 2HKOes Jellicent and Poliwrath with Grass Knot. It has a chance to OHKO Venusaur with Ice Beam after rocks. Lanturn avoids the OHKO from +2 Samurotts Megahorn, but it does ~58% max with Volt Switch so idk, I would list it as a SSI.

Sharpedo:
Might list Gurdurr as a GSI for Sharpedo. It can come in and take any attack Sharpedo can throw at it, then ko with Mach Punch after a round of Life Orb recoil. You also have Amoonguss listed twice as a SSI.

Houndoom:
Flygon is a GSI. The slow defensive variant can take a +2 Dark Pulse and OHKOs with Earthquake. The fast defensive variant can take a Dark Pulse + Sucker Punch and ko with Earthquake. Scarf Emboar takes a Hidden Power Water and OHKOS with Superpower.

Mega Steelix:
Hariyama and Hitmontop are not GSIs. They rely on Close Combat to damage it so Earthquake definitely beats them.

Venusaur:
Amoonguss loses to all varients of Venusaur unless you decide not to run Synthesis on it for whatever reason.

Tyrantrum:
Choice Banded Earthquake 2HKOes Rhyperior and Mega Steelix so they are not GSIs. I don't think Crunch is good enough or even used enough to remove Bronzong from GSI but then again, you have Togetic as a SSI for Flygon because of Life Orb Iron Tail lmao, as if that's even good or used.

Rotom-C:
Specs Thunderbolt 3HKOes Trevenant and Trevenant 2HKOes with Shadow Claw. Not a GSI.
 
By Pokemon like Tyrantrum and Rhyperior, I meant all Pokemon similarly neutered by a burn but are still GSIs to Fletchinder. So like Blastoise, Barbaracle, Slowking, Magneton, etc.

Braviary:
Bronzong and Diancie both lose to SubBU Braviary. Diancie doesn't do enough with Diamond Storm to beat it and Bronzong can't do anything to it except Psywave I guess? Which still doesn't break Braviarys Substitute consistently. I guess that means Braviary has no GSIs? ._.

Samurott:
Samurott 2HKOes Jellicent and Poliwrath with Grass Knot. It has a chance to OHKO Venusaur with Ice Beam after rocks. Lanturn avoids the OHKO from +2 Samurotts Megahorn, but it does ~58% max with Volt Switch so idk, I would list it as a SSI.

Sharpedo:
Might list Gurdurr as a GSI for Sharpedo. It can come in and take any attack Sharpedo can throw at it, then ko with Mach Punch after a round of Life Orb recoil. You also have Amoonguss listed twice as a SSI.

Houndoom:
Flygon is a GSI. The slow defensive variant can take a +2 Dark Pulse and OHKOs with Earthquake. The fast defensive variant can take a Dark Pulse + Sucker Punch and ko with Earthquake. Scarf Emboar takes a Hidden Power Water and OHKOS with Superpower.

Mega Steelix:
Hariyama and Hitmontop are not GSIs. They rely on Close Combat to damage it so Earthquake definitely beats them.

Venusaur:
Amoonguss loses to all varients of Venusaur unless you decide not to run Synthesis on it for whatever reason.

Tyrantrum:
Choice Banded Earthquake 2HKOes Rhyperior and Mega Steelix so they are not GSIs. I don't think Crunch is good enough or even used enough to remove Bronzong from GSI but then again, you have Togetic as a SSI for Flygon because of Life Orb Iron Tail lmao, as if that's even good or used.

Rotom-C:
Specs Thunderbolt 3HKOes Trevenant and Trevenant 2HKOes with Shadow Claw. Not a GSI.
all fixed (even Togetic for Flygon)
 
Mawile to Absol SSI: 0 SpA Life Orb Absol Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Mawile: 263-309 (86.5 - 101.6%) -- 12.5% chance to OHKO

Aromatisse to Eelektross GSI: http://www.smogon.com/forums/thread...6-life-orb-hoopa.3542580/page-18#post-6684546

Aerodactyl to Hoopa NSI: Pursuit shenanigans and outspeeds +1 hoops. (252 Atk Life Orb Aerodactyl Pursuit vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Hoopa: 296-354 (98.3 - 117.6%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO)
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SSI:
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NSI:
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Braviary to Scrafty NSI:
252 Atk Braviary Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scrafty: 336-396 (123.9 - 146.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Scrafty Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Braviary: 156-184 (45.7 - 53.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Scrafty High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Braviary: 208-246 (60.9 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Dugtrio to the following NSI:
Virizion: 252 Atk Life Orb Dugtrio Aerial Ace vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Virizion: 322-385 (99.3 - 118.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Jynx: 252 Atk Life Orb Dugtrio Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jynx: 339-399 (125 - 147.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Can you take out Charizard? it's so booty

Quaggy and Moon should be removed too


e @ below: Charizard is in Venusaur SSI; meant a broken Virizion image in Jynx checks - sorry about that
 
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Braviary to Scrafty NSI:
252 Atk Braviary Brave Bird vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Scrafty: 336-396 (123.9 - 146.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 Atk Scrafty Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Braviary: 156-184 (45.7 - 53.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Scrafty High Jump Kick vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Braviary: 208-246 (60.9 - 72.1%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Dugtrio to the following NSI:
Virizion: 252 Atk Life Orb Dugtrio Aerial Ace vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Virizion: 322-385 (99.3 - 118.8%) -- 93.8% chance to OHKO
Jynx: 252 Atk Life Orb Dugtrio Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Jynx: 339-399 (125 - 147.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Can you take out Charizard? it's so booty

Quaggy and Moon should be removed too

Oh yeah there's still a broken image in Virizion checks section
Did. I don't see Zard, could you clarify where u saw it? And I don't see a broken image in Virizion section oo
 
I've got this thread on watch, yeah.

I'm currently working on a Scrappie function that should allow managing these compendiums a lot more easily, and make sure importing them to brmt is less of a pain. After that, brmt will need a bit of a re-write, but it should work a lot better after.
 
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List I compiled; might be wrong in a few ways, so feel free to correct me.


Oh yeah I wouldn't keep Magneton on Sneasel SSI btw
252 Atk Life Orb Sneasel Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Magneton: 175-207 (72.3 - 85.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Sneasel Ice Shard vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Magneton: 35-43 (14.4 - 17.7%) -- possible 6HKO
252 Atk Life Orb Sneasel Icicle Crash vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Magneton: 77-90 (31.8 - 37.1%) -- 83.4% chance to 3HKO

Switching into any of sneasel's moves results in Magneton being KO'd with knock off anyway (you'd need to be really lucky to get two low rolls on Ice Shard + Knock Off; even then you're boned with some stealth rock chip). With that in mind move Magneton down to Sneasel NSI. If there's anything else I can think of, I might just edit this post for the sake of not double posting.

How's the Scrappie function update coming along, OrdA?
 
How's the Scrappie function update coming along, OrdA?
Unfortunately I don't have much time to work on it, right now :(

Adding and removing pokémon works, so the current state is to add an undo history. Also, everything is still text based. Now that bot rank is a thing and bots can broadcast html with images in it, it will be able to show it as images inside a PS room.
 
Which SSI appears the most for you think? From what I see it looks like Rhyperior covers multiple threats including top threats (with the exception of Venusaur).
 
Aerodactyl to Gallade NSI (252 Atk Life Orb Aerodactyl Aerial Ace vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gallade: 312-369 (112.6 - 133.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO)

Any special reason why Jellicent is only in Diancie NSI? for what it's worth, Jellicent stops both the Stealth Rocker set and RestTalk set pretty well thanks to Taunt, constant pressure from Will-o-Wisp, and SE Scald or boosted Hex, while you can Recover-stall Moonblasts from the Life Orb set. With this in mind, Jellicent should probably be moved up to Diancie SSI.
252+ SpA Life Orb Diancie Moonblast vs. 252 HP / 0 SpD Jellicent: 177-211 (43.8 - 52.2%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Leftovers recovery).

If you really have Kabutops, slap it in Fletchinder GSI. My train of thought here is something like Lum SD Kabutops switching into Fletchinder here, although LO Kabutops could still succesfully revenge kill Fletch with Aqua Jet after switching into a +3 Acrobatics.
252+ Atk Fletchinder Acrobatics (110 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kabutops: 64-76 (24.5 - 29.1%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock 252+ Atk Kabutops Waterfall vs. 152 HP / 76 Def Fletchinder: 378-446 (124.7 - 147.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO


With that in mind, do also add Kabutops to Sneasel SSI [not sure if Weak Armor should be taken into account but assuming it isn't ]
252 Atk Life Orb Sneasel Knock Off vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kabutops: 107-126 (40.9 - 48.2%) -- 61.7% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock
252 Atk Life Orb Sneasel Icicle Crash vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kabutops: 70-82 (26.8 - 31.4%) -- 43.5% chance to 3HKO after Stealth Rock 252 Atk Life Orb Sneasel Low Kick (60 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Kabutops: 133-156 (50.9 - 59.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

Oh yeah add Hitmonlee to the following NSI since Scarf Lee is a pretty good set: Aerodactyl, Drapion (maybe not this once since it's a roll after rocks), Flygon, Jolteon, Scrafty, Virizion.
 
Remove Tangrowth
Sharpedo is in Emboar Checks and Sigilyph Checks (NSI), you must have forgotten to remove it
I'll try to make some contribution to this thread

Gallade:
You could add Absol to either SSI or NSI, it can switch into a Zen Headbutt and gets a 3 out of 4 chance to kill with Sucker Punch
252+ Atk Life Orb Absol Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gallade: 265-312 (95.6 - 112.6%) -- 75% chance to OHKO
Of course Gallade could SD up but one Knock Off and the thing dies, so it's pretty much a big mindgame
252+ Atk Life Orb Absol Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 Def Gallade: 320-378 (115.5 - 136.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
BU Gallades normally run 164 speed I'm pretty sure so a 252 speed Absol will outspeed it and kill it with Play Rough
252+ Atk Life Orb Absol Play Rough vs. 248 HP / 0 Def Gallade: 398-471 (117.4 - 138.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO

Scrafty:
Meloetta is a possible NSI for Scrafty, both Specs and OCM sets can kill it with Focus Blast / Dazzling Gleam and Dazzling Gleam, respectively
252 SpA Choice Specs Meloetta Focus Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Scrafty: 342-404 (126.1 - 149%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Meloetta Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Scrafty: 308-364 (113.6 - 134.3%) -- guaranteed OHKO
 
Please remove mentions of mons that aren't in the tier anymore :/

Where to add Xatu
SSI or NSI to Diancie (cant switch into offensive variants, but most are defensive)
GSI to Registeel (which isn't even on here and it takes jack shit from anything)
SSI to Druddigon (can wall any set lacking a boosting item or outrage)
SSI to Medicham since it takes anything bar TPunch from Scarf Medi
SSI or NSI to Virizion (beats zhb variants but not stone edge on sd and hp ice can give it trouble
GSI to Alomomola (scald does jack shit and u have toxic to cripple mola)
SSI to Sawk (switches into cc on band)
 
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