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TeaThymeLine said:
I completely agree with you, though I personally would have provided a list of all 9G available Pokémon with the types they'd ignore (not that I started but I would do it eventually) in the metagame. That subjectivity bothers me too for the writing, yet I wanted to find an original way of using base stats. I'm still looking for other possibilities.
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I think you'll have a better chance of getting approved if you come up with something much simpler than the colours.

Like for example that immunities are not based on a single typing anymore but on the dual typing combined. Nothing would change for mono types, but for dual types the new rules are: resist+resist=immune (i.e. appletun is now immune to water and electric), and immune+super effective=neutral (i.e. electric is neutral on gliscor) and immune+neutral=resist (i.e. poison is resist on metagross).

I'm not saying this is a good idea (it probably isn't) but it is much easier to explain and pick up on. Pokémon can be a very complex game already with many rules, adding a lot of extra rules makes it only accessible to the most experienced.
 
When submitting a new metagame idea you have to provide at least one council member. What's a good way of finding people who are interested in being on your council and have some experience preferably?

I am not much of a forum guy so I don't know many people in the OM community. In the off chance that the OM gets approved it would be nice if there were some people with more experience helping out on the council.
 
biesbas said:
When submitting a new metagame idea you have to provide at least one council member. What's a good way of finding people who are interested in being on your council and have some experience preferably?

I am not much of a forum guy so I don't know many people in the OM community. In the off chance that the OM gets approved it would be nice if there were some people with more experience helping out on the council.
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Becoming familiar enough with people in the community is also part of what would reassure us that someone would be a good choice for council/leader of an OM. It's implicit in those requirements that a person who intends to submit an OM AND actually participate in leading it should have at least spent some time integrating into the forums and networking within the community (i.e. @ Forums, PS room, Discord).

That being said, one of the best places to ask if people are interested in being on your council is the OM Discord: https://discord.gg/qYGnkzB4
 
biesbas said:
When submitting a new metagame idea you have to provide at least one council member. What's a good way of finding people who are interested in being on your council and have some experience preferably?

I am not much of a forum guy so I don't know many people in the OM community. In the off chance that the OM gets approved it would be nice if there were some people with more experience helping out on the council.
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In any case, when you make the submission thread is fine if only yourself is listed in the council, is better to ask other people to join when the idea is near approval, we review everything else and then tell you to go get someone, is like the last thing you have to worry about.
 
KaenSoul said:
In any case, when you make the submission thread is fine if only yourself is listed in the council, is better to ask other people to join when the idea is near approval, we review everything else and then tell you to go get someone, is like the last thing you have to worry about.
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Thanks this is very good to know!

Isaiah said:
Becoming familiar enough with people in the community is also part of what would reassure us that someone would be a good choice for council/leader of an OM. It's implicit in those requirements that a person who intends to submit an OM AND actually participate in leading it should have at least spent some time integrating into the forums and networking within the community (i.e. @ Forums, PS room, Discord).

That being said, one of the best places to ask if people are interested in being on your council is the OM Discord: https://discord.gg/qYGnkzB4
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And thank you for the discord recommendation, I had no idea the discord was so active. I'll make sure to get to know the community more before submitting. :-)
 
KaenSoul said:
Stats modifiers of additional abilities don't show on any format, but their effects are still there.
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Awesome thanks for the confirmation. Yeah I noticed it was definitely still activated with the mons being outsped just wasn't sure if there was a way to see the actual increased stat but I can just set it manually in dmg calculator. Small convenience issues no biggie. So if I change its main ability to quick feet on team builder then, will it appear in game as the active ability with stat reflection for speed?
 
Puff2Tuff said:
Awesome thanks for the confirmation. Yeah I noticed it was definitely still activated with the mons being outsped just wasn't sure if there was a way to see the actual increased stat but I can just set it manually in dmg calculator. Small convenience issues no biggie. So if I change its main ability to quick feet on team builder then, will it appear in game as the active ability with stat reflection for speed?
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It should, as the game only checks for the ability slot to display information from.
 
LemonLime78 said:
I want to bring chimera 1v1 back. Other than gathering a council if it gets approved, how would I go about doing this?
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Honestly, Chimera 1v1 is in a position where it's so overly complex and generally inaccessible that we're not likely to approve it this gen. These issues often make the tier very unapproachable and unpopular, so to put it simply: if you need a website or spreadsheet just to build a team, that's probably doing too much.
 
Isaiah said:
Honestly, Chimera 1v1 is in a position where it's so overly complex and generally inaccessible that we're not likely to approve it this gen. These issues often make the tier very unapproachable and unpopular, so to put it simply: if you need a website or spreadsheet just to build a team, that's probably doing too much.
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Ah, that sucks. Maybe I'll just gather a group of friends or something to play it with. Personally, the complexity is what makes me love it. I'm also biased as I'm mainly a 1v1 player but that'd besides the point.
 
Heavyweapons Mann said:
For AAA, why are there some sets that use Adaptability? Wouldn't Sword of Ruin/Beads of Ruin be strictly better?
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Adaptability is used on certain sets to bluff other abilities, as SoR and BoR are revealed on entry. An example of this is Scarf Gholdengo. While the Scarf set sometimes uses Dazzling Gleam or Focus Blast, its better to use Adaptability than Beads of Ruin as this allows you to bluff Earth Eater and Well-Baked Body.
 
Heavyweapons Mann said:
For AAA, why are there some sets that use Adaptability? Wouldn't Sword of Ruin/Beads of Ruin be strictly better?
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Psychic-types like Latios prefer Adaptability, as Psyshock is not boosted by Beads.

If you only use STAB moves, Adaptability is strictly better since it has the same boost, does not announce, and is not blocked by opposing Sword / Beads (and leaves the slot open for a teammate)

Sword of Ruin also has the quirk of being blocked by opposing Sword of Ruin, whereas Tough Claws / Adaptability is unconditional. For example, Tough Claws Choice Scarf Roaring Moon can revenge kill Sword of Ruin Zamazenta after Close Combat, but Sword of Ruin misses the KO.

TLDR: yes Sword / Beads is usually better, no they are not strictly better.
 
Do you think that an OM in which you have to choose actions for X turns instead of one is a good idea and doable ? I know that there's certainly subjectivity about the X, and I won't go further as to make a suggestion in the workshop anyway. I just want to hear (more like read) your opinions about this.
 
I was wondering, what would the ranking for every Arceus form in Balanced Hackmons be? (best to worst)

What I've got so far is
Ghost > Fairy > Ground > Water > Normal > Electric > Fire > Fighting > Poison > Dark

now real question is where would we rank dragon, flying, grass, ice, psychic, rock, and steel
 
iLiekMudkipz_ said:
I was wondering, what would the ranking for every Arceus form in Balanced Hackmons be? (best to worst)

What I've got so far is
Ghost > Fairy > Ground > Water > Normal > Electric > Fire > Fighting > Poison > Dark

now real question is where would we rank dragon, flying, grass, ice, psychic, rock, and steel
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Fighting should be over fire and dark should be over poison ngl
Also normal should be below fighting and water right above fighting.
Anyway the order of the ur ones is prolly flying > dragon > grass > psychic >rock > ice
Steel could prolly go somewhere between electric and fighting ngl
 
Notgamingreally said:
Fighting should be over fire and dark should be over poison ngl
Also normal should be below fighting and water right above fighting.
Anyway the order of the ur ones is prolly flying > dragon > grass > psychic >rock > ice
Steel could prolly go somewhere between electric and fighting ngl
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I've used ice before, its not that bad.

I'd place it above psychic

Ok so Ghost > Fairy > Ground > Water > Normal > Electric > Steel > Fighting > Fire > Dark > Poison > Flying > Dragon > Grass > Ice > Psychic > Rock
 
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iLiekMudkipz_ said:
I've used ice before, its not that bad.

I'd place it above psychic

Ok so Ghost > Fairy > Ground > Water > Normal > Electric > Fighting > Fire > Dark > Poison > Flying > Dragon > Grass > Ice > Psychic > Rock
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Well of course it’s not “bad” it’s arceus, however it does nothing that isn’t outclassed by anything else, psychic at least has limited other bulky psychics to compete with and take heart stored power sounds extremely funny in theory (probably ass in practice)
Also why is steelceus not there it’s the best of the ones that are currently ur
 
Notgamingreally said:
Well of course it’s not “bad” it’s arceus, however it does nothing that isn’t outclassed by anything else, psychic at least has limited other bulky psychics to compete with and take heart stored power sounds extremely funny in theory (probably ass in practice)
Also why is steelceus not there it’s the best of the ones that are currently ur
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arceus-ice can run refrigerate better than kyurem-b because it has higher speed than kyub
 
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