[OU] RMT Help Appreaciated

[Screaming Angel]

This team took effort to make but I will greatly appreacite help with it. I will not change any member of my team for a wall as I would like to keep my offense going and never let my oponent set up. This team was based around Stathakis way of playing in which you never stop attacking making your oponent never able to set up. This team has brough to good ratings in Shoddy but after I reached the high 1500s it fell apart. Overall my team has good synergy almost resisting every type twice (except Water and Rock). So RMT!

The Line Up:

The Lead:

Azelf @ Light Clay
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/4 Def/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- U-Turn
- Stealth Rock
- Reflect
- Light Screen
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Explanation: Azelf is my suicide lead that starts my momentum. Stealth Rock is to give my sweepers an easier time sweeping and for oponents who like switching. Reflect and Light Screen are so that my pokemon can set up and so they can liive longer. U-Turn allows me to get out and bring in a sweeper when my oponent is expecting an explosion. It also helps against Aerodactyl leads by breaking their sash then sswitching to Scizor to KO them with Bullet Punch . The Evs are straight forward from the analysis providing Azelf with more durability so it can set up the screens.There are only two leads which give me alot of trouble Choice Scarf Jirachi and LO Starmie. Against Jirachi I Stealth Rock since Iron Head is only a 3KO. Starmie is a coin toss to see if I get Light Screen up before she hits me with a LO STAB Hydro Pump.

Immunes/Resistances: Fighting,Ground,Psychic
Weak to: Dark,Ghost,Bug

Tyranitar (M) @ Babiri Berry
Ability: Sand Stream
EVs: 4 HP/252 Atk/252 Spd
Jolly nature (+Spd, -SAtk)
- Dragon Dance
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Crunch

Explanation: This is the first pokemon I bring out after the Azelf was killed. Tyranitar helps wear down Hippodown,Swampert so that Rotom-H can finish them with a shadow ball and procede to sweep. Even though everyone knows that DDTyranitar's now carry Babiri Berry Scizors come in flying when I'm at 60% hoping for the KO. Evs are for maximum speed so I can reach Base 115 pokemon like Starmie and Azelf after a Dragon Dance and proceed to KO them. Earthquake was chosen over the recommended Fire Punch in the analysis because Stone Edge sometimes KOes Scizor, and I would rather be able to hit Metagross and Jirachi hard. Aqua Tail over Earthquake is an option to be able to hit Gliscor and Hippodown harder.

Immunes/Resistances: Dark,Ghost,Fire,Normal,Poison,Psychic,Flying
Weak to: Bug,Fighting,Grass,Water,Steel,Ground

Rotom-w @ Leftovers
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 64 HP/212 Spd/232 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Charge Beam
- Substitute
- Hydro Pump
- Shadow Ball

Explanation: Rotom-w provides me with the valuable Fighting immune and Ground immune as well as being able to set up on Scizor. The evs in speed are so that I can outspeed Adamant Lucario and be able to KO it after the Close Combat Sp. Def. drop. 64 HP evs allow me to set up substitutes against Blissey which she cannot break with Ice Beam or Flamethrower. Hydro Pump hits Tyranitar and Heatran for Super efictive damage while only having 20 less base power against Blissey and Snorlax. It is also my best bet against scizor.. Shadow Ball is there for STAB and also to get rid or Swampert or Hippodown who can roar away my boosts and substitutes. Rotom-h gets rid of Blissey and Scizor for Latias to be able to sweep. Highlight to read

Immunes/Resistances:Normal,Fighting,Poison,Electric,Flying,Bug,Steel,
Ground
Weak to: Ghost,Dark

Latias (F) @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 4 HP/252 Spd/252 SAtk
Timid nature (+Spd, -Atk)
- Dragon Pulse
- Surf
- Recover
- Calm Mind

Explanation: Latias provides me with a way to cover my Starmie weakness seeing as she can't be OHKOed by Ice beam. Evs in speed are so I can speed tie with Gengar and opposing Latias. Evs in Special Attack are for maximum hit power. Dragon + Water provides an amazing type coverage hitting everything in OU for at least neutral damage barring Empoleon. Recover provides me with a way to revover damage when I'm low in health and Calm Mind gives me a way to boost her incredible Special Defense and her Special Attack.Latias can set up on Swampert and kill Hippodown with surf allowing for Tyranitar sweep freely.

Immunes/Resistances: Ground,Water,Electric,Fire,Grass,Psychic,Fighting
Weak to: Bug,Dark,Ghost,Dragon,Ice

Scizor (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Technician
EVs: 200 HP/252 Atk/56 SDef
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Swords Dance
- Superpower
- Bullet Punch
- Quick Attack

Explanation: Scizor is one of my favorite pokemon having a great amount of destructive power behind him. Evs are so that I dont get hit too hard by Special Attacks while still mantaning a good amount of power. HP evs also produce a Life Orb number. Superpower was chosen over Brick Break so that I can cause alot of damage to oposing Skarmory before he roars me away. Quick Attack was chosen over X-Scissor so that I can get rid of pesky Starmies at ~70% and Infernapes who think they can get rid of me since they resist Steel. The only time where I wish I had X-Scissor was an oposing Vaporeon. This guy opens sweeps for Latias and helps Lucario sweep by doing around 40% to Defensive Zapdos and around 70% to offensive Zapdos making a Lucario sweep more poissible.

Immunes/Resistances:Normal,Ghost,Dark,Dragon,Grass,Ice,Psychic,Bug,
Steel

Weak to: Fire
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Lucario (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Inner Focus
EVs: 252 Atk/4 Def/252 Spd
Adamant nature (+Atk, -SAtk)
- Close Combat
- Crunch
- Swords Dance
- Extremespeed

Explanation: Lucario gives me that power I need to break through walls. Evs are from the analysis. Move set is pretty original as you can see. Lucario is what gets my team going giving each team member oportunities to set up against his counters. Lucario more often than not might be revenge killed by a Scarf Heatran, Scarf Magnezone or Scarf Rotom-h. Tyranitar sets up on all three of them. Gyarados gets weaken to the point where Scizor would sweep, and Salamence gets almost killed with SR making it not stick around to deal damage.

Immunes/Resistances: Rock,Dark,Ghost,Dragon,Steel,Ice,Bug,Grass,
Normal
Weak to: Fire,Ground,Fighting

Threat List:
Threat List
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• Green means they are not a problem for me.
• Orange means they can cause a bit of trouble.
• Red means they are very difficult to take down.

Offensive Threats

Aerodactyl : Most Aerodactyls are leads in that case I U-turn out to Scizor then kill it with Bullet Punch.
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Alakazam : Can't really cause problems, Scizor can set up on him then finish it with Bullet Punch.
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Azelf : Same boat as Aerodactyl, only that he is more common as a lead, non lead versions fall to Lucario once boosted.
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Breloom : Can be annoying if for some reason Rotom-w is dead. Scizor kills it with Bullet Punch, Latias with Draco Metero not really a problem.
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Dragonite : Mix sets as well as every other set do not do much, Latias outspeeds and finishes him off with a Draco Meteor.
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Dugtrio : Can only trap and succesfully deal with Tyranitar, Scizor kills it with Bullet Punch, Latias with Draco Meteor, Rotom-w sets up on it.
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Electivire : Can't deal alot of damage to this team, Latias kills with Draco Meteor, Scizor sets up on non Flamethrower versions, and Rotom-w 2KOes with Shadow Ball.
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Empoloen : Empoleon can only really set up on Rotom-w or Latias. If it sets up on Rotom-w birng it down to 22% then switch out to Latias to take the surf, then switch out to Lucario to take the Ice Beam and finish it off with Extremespeed.
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Flygon : Can be annoying if the user predicts well, I finish them off with Bullet Punch on Scizor when they are locked in to Outrage.
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Gengar : Scizor takes care of them, if Scizor is dead I have a hard time dealing with it, Latias doesn't get KOed by Shadow Ball and can KO with Draco Meteor.
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Gyarados : Offensive LODDGyarados is easi to handle seeing as it can only set up on Lucario and Scizor. If Lucario has a SD I attack with Close Combat then Extremespeed it for the KO. Scizor's Quick Attack does 40% damage plus Stealth Rock means it gets 2KOed.
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Heatran : Latias Surfs it, Tyranitar sets up on it.
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Heracross : Rotom-w sets up on it. If its CB and its locked into Megahorn one of my Steels sets up on it.
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Infernape : Latias surfs it, Lucario Extremespeeds it, Scizor Quick Attacks it.
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Jirachi : Lead Jirachi is a pain, CMSub Jirachi doesnt deal enough damage to Lucario or Scizor who Close Combat and Superpower it respectively.
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Jolteon : If its Spec'ed I play around my resistances but if its LOCharge Beam I wear it down enough to the point wehre Extremespeed or Quick Attack will kill.
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Kingdra : Can't set up at all and if it does I make it lock itself into outrage then Switch to Scizor and Swords Dance then finish it off with Quick Attack.
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Latias : Scizor can set up on non HP fire ones Rotom-w can survive a Dragon Pulse and deal enough damage with Shadow Ball to the point where Scior or Lucario can kill it. Tyranitar Crunches it to hell
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Lucario : Can'tset up, and if it does Rotom-w kills it after a Sp. Defense drop with Hydro Pump.
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Machamp : Rotom-w takes the Dynamic Punches and wears it down so Lucario can kill with Close Combat.
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Magnezone : Scarf Magnezone can kill Scizor but that leaves him open to set up my Tyranitar. Can't kill Lucario with Thunderbolt unless I had a Specia Defense drop. Latias can surf it.
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Mamoswine : A Bullet Punch from Scizor finishes him, Latias KOes with surf and can't be KOed unless its under 70% health. Rotom-w kills it with Hydro Pump.
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Metagross : If Rotom-w is weakened thsi might be a problem otherwise Rotom-w sets up on it. Tyranitar can take a hit with Babiri Berry and use Earthquake.
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Porygon-Z : Most Porygon-z do Tri Attack letting Tyranitar,Lucario,Scizor and Rotom-w set up.
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Rhyperior : Can't set up and if it does Rotom-w can deal alot of damage with Hydro Pump.
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Salamence : Mixmence is a heck to this team if I didnt get Stealth Rock up. If I did then I let it weakend itself by sandstorm and switching until Scizor's Bullet Punch kills. Dragon Dance variants are easier to deal since they often carry Outrage Making them Set up Fodder for Scizor.
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Scizor : Rotom-w sets up on it, Tyranitar after a Dragon Dance can KO it with Stone Edge, Set up fodder for my own Scizor.
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Starmie : Starmie wrecks my team if Latias is weakened, the best I can do is hit it with priority moves.
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Togekiss : Latias can come in on T-wave and reflect it back with Psycho Shift, Rotom-w can set up on it if it doesn't know i carry Substitute.
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Tyranitar : Latiascan kill it by using surf then draco meteor, CB versions can be set up on by Lucario. Rotom-w can use Hydro Pump for decent damage.
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Weavile : Scizor sets up on it and finishes it off with Bullet Punch.
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Yanmega : Rotom-w can set up on it if it doesnt carry Hypnosis otherwise Priority move should kill it.

Defensive Threat List:

Blissey : Lucario,Tyranitar, Scizor can all deal massive damage and set up on it if it doesnt carry T-wave. If she does then Rotom-w can set up on it and wait for a Lucky crit.
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Bronzong : Scizor and Rotom-w both set up on it.
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Celebi : Latias Draco Meteor is it, Rotom-w can set up on it.
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Cresselia : Rotom-w can set up on it, if Rotom is dead she can be annoying.
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Donphan : Latias can use Surf, Rotom-w can Hydro Pump it.
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Forretress : Rotom-w sets up on it and so does Scizor.
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Gliscor : Latias can surf it, Rotom-w can substitute then Hydro Pump it, Scizor can 2KO it after a Swords Dance.
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Hippowdon : Latias can surf it and Rotom-w can Hydroo Pump it but its rathe annoying because it can roar away my stats boost.
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Skarmory : Rotom-w scares it to go to Blissey, Lucario after a Swords Dance can kill it, Superpower from Scizor after a Swords Dance does around 70% damage.
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Snorlax : If it gets too many Curses then I have a problem, I usually hit it hard until it has to rest then Swords Dance with Lucario until CLose Combat kills.
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Suicune: After Latias uses Draco Meteor she sets up. Lucario does alot of damage to it, and Tyranitar can use crunch to lower here defenses CroCune is extremly annoying.
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Swampert : Latias Draco Meteor is, Lucario after a Swords Dance finishes him.
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Tentacruel : Lucario can set up on it since surf does pitiful damage, Scizor can too and so can Tyranitar.
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Vaporeon : Scizor can finish it off with a Swords Dance Close Combat while only taking 40% from surf.
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Zapdos : Tyranitar can set up on it and Latias deals alot of damage with Draco meteor.


Credits to: Arkeis for Big Pictures, Bulbapedia/Bulbagarden for Back Sprites, Smogon for sprites, and Unholy Calamity for Threat List
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[iKitsune]

No. 1 rule never use yellow text in an RMT its so annoying! and sot is the best

Even though your tactic is to prevent threats from setting up if one does set up then well its not going to be pretty. Two threats that spring to mind are Gyarados and Sub Petaya Empoleon both are basically going to 6-0 you if they manage to set up. Your checks / counters to both of these are flimsy at best. I also have qualms with Tyranitar if its your end game sweeper that fine but getting up sandstorm early game is really going to hinder this team various pokemon weak to it. Ultimately you do need to be able to react to threats but you dont want to sacrifice your offensive characteristics, i hope i have the solutions that can help you on both fronts.

First of all i would change Rotom to a Choice Scarf variant. With sandstorm up that set isnt going to be perform optimally, if you still want to use that set you may want to consider wow over hidden power fighting so that you can mitigate the threat of certain physical attackers to this team. I still strongly suggest you scarf Rotom, if you do you will be able to revenge kill even jolly gyarados, Jolteon and Starmie. You can also threaten stall with trick. I reccomend you use "W" as it can threaten both Heatran and TTar with Hydro Pump. Trick, i think you will find in the long run is more effective then your current set when you play against stall.

On the subject of Trick i suggest you change Latias to either a Specs version or to a offensive LO version as seen in Panamaxis's team. This will provide you with the means to easily power through TTar and Scizor who switch in looking for a free kill. The extra bulk this set provides also enables you to better handle Heatran and other Sp. Attackers such as bulky Waters. Psycho Shift enables it to take the odd status eg Zapdos, this is basically the ultimate Zapdos counter.

Here is the set:

Latias @ Life Orb
Ability: Levitate
Modest, 156 HP / 252 Sp. Atk / 100 Speed

- Draco Meteor
- Surf
- Recover
- Psycho Shift

Surf provides great coverage with Draco Meteor. Surf will 2HKO Scizor and Surf + Draco Meteor will 2HKO most Tyranitar, the two most common switch-ins to Latias. Ultimately this latias performs what you current set does but i think you will find that you arent pursuited by Scizor as easily. It also fits in nicely as an offensive wall with recover and psycho shift so definitely use it.

Moving on to Lucario is often i think you will begin to found easily countered by the enemy it also is fairly slow and does not help your team counter so much I have an alternative fighting type that i think will help you with your Sub Petaya Empoleon problems. I suggest you use a Physical Mix Infernape. This infernape is a real threat to stall and offensive teams a like the key to this infernape success though is everything it effortlessly keeps in check alleviating the pressure on your other pokemon. It does this through Mach Punch which allows it check TTar which could cost you Scizor if it is babiri ttar as well as Lucario.

This is the set:

Infernape (M) @ Life Orb
Ability: Blaze
EVs: 252 Atk/232 Spd/24 SAtk
Naive nature (+Spe, -SDef)
- Overheat
- Close Combat
- Stone Edge
- Mach Punch

Well i hope these changes help your team and i wish you the best of luck.

You should be aware of Gengar especially a sub, HP fire, focus blast, Shadow ball. Fortunately its quite rare and if you do use Rotom you will be able to revenge kill it.

 

[Screaming Angel]

Thanks, iKitsune, I want to defintly try out that Latias set. LOGyarados doesnt post as much as a problem as it seems seeing that a +1 Quick Attack from Scizor does around 40% plus Stealth Rock means it gets on Lucarios extremespeed range. A +1 Jolly Gyarados with a Life Orb doesnt KO Scizor.
The point is that if I use scarf rotom-h the oponent would have more oportunities to set up his dangerous sweepers like AgilitySubPetaya empoleon and even though I outspeed it with rotom-h something on my team would have to be sacrificed to bring in rotom-h. Sandstorm does hinder this rotom-h's set but I can handle it. Now That Infernape can help my team. But it adds to my starmie weak. If i were to use that set I would have to have Scarf rotom in conjunction. If i were to remove HP fighting snorlax could set up on me or Blissey could wall me. Im off to test that Latias

 

[iKitsune]

I dont think Latias will work so well if you just use it alone also LO star hates switching into that ape and a bulkier latias which ive suggested can help against it i hope. Most importantly though Rotom beats Gyarados and Starmie it means you dont have to have use Quick Attack and can revenge kill those threatening gengar and latias with pursuit and a CB may work. Infernape i strongly reccommend just for empoleon and the revenge killing it offers i suggest you have a go with all the suggestions and just see how it works.

Use infernape and Scarf Rotom especially use ape as Latias is walled by the pengiun.

I think Lucario sucks now it has few oppurtunities to set up and stall teams over prepare for it i strongly suggest you use Infernape over it who draws in Gyarados and severely weakens it with stone edge.

Im glad Latias helps though :)

Edit: Ive been testing the team with my ammendments and im not so keen on the lead you need to set up sr in as many situations as possible and i think either a normal lead azelf or an Aerodactyl performs this better i havent found the screens to be that useful :0 but not setting up SR has cost me, im still testing.

 

[Screaming Angel]

Ok I will try, Altough LO Starmie would hate coming in on Infernape, If it gets in on an overheat or a mach punch, its gona cause havoc, I will try all your suggestions though

 

[Luxormaniac]

Looking at your team, I noticed a few things. First, you have the invaluable Ttar/Ghost combination, with Rotom sponging Fighting and Ground and Ttar taking most everything else. I'm quite happy with this combination.

And also, you have 5 Pokes that need setup. I'll work to get this number down throughout the rate to better help you keep momentum going.

Next thing I notice is actually something that iKitsune recommended- but I did notice it myself, really. Infernape in Scizor's slot would do you a world of good. Infernape, for one, has excellent synergy with Latias. Furthermore, it shares similar counters with Lucario. So not only will Infernape get Latias out of tight spots, and vice-versa, but it will clear the way for a Lucario sweep. I've not tried the Physical MixApe set, being a disciple of standard CC/Fire Blast/HP Ice/Grass Knot myself, but it seems good and adds that ever-useful priority to your team. SoT is the best As for Luke, consider Jolly solely to outrun the rising Mamoswine (who runs just enough speed to outrun your current Adamant Luke). At this point, only Luke and Ttar can set up. I might actually change Ttar to a CB variant and make Latias CM/Dragon Pulse/HP Fire/Recover to deal with Scizor, since CB Ttar would deal with Heatran. Lefties Ttar could even work if you dislike Choice.

As for a lead, Jirachi could do the same as Azelf- SR and Dual Screen, while retaining some "bulky offense," U-turning away and surviving to DS again.

Hope this helps.

 

[Screaming Angel]

Thanks Luxormaniac I have to say I never tried a Jirachi lead I thinki it could definatly help I will surely try it out. For Luke im not too sure if I want to change to Jolly seeing as a +2 Extremespeed KOes Mamoswine. Altough Jolly does have its benefits I would be losing some KOes against pokemon like Skarmory or Swampert who can kill Lucario after the defense drop (Skarmory needs 64 attack evs to KO Lucario after the defense drop with Brave Bird)



Edit: Updated with Rotom-w changed Latias Move set and ev spread, Changed Tyranitars nature, and out up the threat list.

Please people help I know my team is not perfect

 

[remlabmez]

To start off, I dont like suicide leads at all, but I the azelf goes with the synergy of the team so I guess just keep it, or just go with a typical meta lead.

I dont really see the point of sub rotom with sandstorm as said before, just change it to scarf since it would fit well with an offensive team. Something that scares me about this team is that you have no swtich in for any kind of special attacker if latias has been weakned or been disposed off earlier in the match. LO sent on latias in the sand is asking to die pretty quickly as well.

I just dont feel like the TTar really fits with this team, I would just go with DDmence behind screens honestly, because an offensive team with LO latias and rotom with Sandstorm is a lot of residual damage that is unessecary