OU RMT

Carcus

The idea of this team is a core combination of offensive pokemon. It focuses on Machamp, Magnezone and Latias. They sweep together very well because they cover almost all of each others' counters, usually allowing at least one of them to set up and sweep.

Important Note: Credit for the Magnezone/Latias/Machamp combo goes to Legacy Raider+ This team could never have existed without him. Also, a huge thank you to luxormaniac for his help.

At a glance​


dpmfa395.png
dpmfa245.png
dpmfa068.png
dpffa380.png
dpmfa462.png
493.png

In Depth:

395.png


Empoleon @ Shuca Berry
Torrent
Modest
156 HP/252 SpA/100 Spe
-Stealth Rock
-Hydro Pump
-Aqua Jet
-Grass Knot

Thank you very much to luxormaniac for this set. In his own words:

Stealth Rock is simply for, well, Stealth Rock. Hydro Pump deals KO damage to many leads. Aqua Jet finishes those dang Sashers off after a Hydro Pump. Grass Knot is for Swampert and coverage; however Yawn, Roar, or one of a plethora of other moves could be acceptable. Shuca allows it to take a Metagross' EQ or a Heatran's Earth Power, so you can finish it off the next turn. Of vital importance is the fact that Empoleon does not OHKO lead Metagross with Hydro Pump, or leave it in Aqua Jet range. It is therefore necessary to run sufficient Speed EVs to outspeed Metagross to Hydro Pump again; I believe 100 Speed EVs outspeeds the standard Meta lead above, unless I am mistaken.
Click to expand...
245.png


Suicune @ Leftovers
Pressure
Bold
252 HP/252 Def/4 Spe

~ Surf
~ Calm Mind
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk

On recommendation of luxormaniac, the standard Crocune set taken from the main site. As he said Empoleon will draw out his counters, which will give me a good idea of what I'm dealing with; which I like.
68.png


Machamp @ Leftovers
No Guard
Adamant
252 HP/252 Atk/4 Spe

~ Dynamicpunch
~ Stone Edge
~ Payback
~ Bulk Up

Bulk Up + Dynamicpunch can be incredibly devestating. The plan here is to switch into something Machamp can easily set up on, BU on the switch and use Dynamicpunch of anything that doesn't resist it. Stone Edge for the flying types and Payback for the failer ghosts. Latias and Magnezone handle his counters nicely

380.png


Latias @ Leftovers
Levitate
Timid
148 HP/108 SpA/252 Spe

~ Calm Mind
~ Dragon Pulse
~ Recover
~ Refresh

Very similar to Machamp, switch into something that it can easily handle, CM on the switch and deal some major damage. Recover and Refresh provide amazing bulk to keep him in the game long. Latias has been very good to me, usually making a sizeable dent in the opponent's team. If they switch to a Special Wall I switch in Machamp, and for Steel types...

462.png


Magnezone @ Choice Scarf
Magnet Pull
Naive
4 Atk/252 SpA/252 Spe

~ Thunderbolt
~ HP Fire
~ Flash Cannon
~ Explosion

His main use is to take out any Steel types preventing Latias from setting up, along with Skarmory on Machamp, but he can be quite deadly in his own right. Excellent type coverage with Electric and Fire, with Explosion for when he's done all he can and I need to take a chunk out of my opponent. Machamp can deal with a lot of his counters, completing the synergy between my three core pokemon.

488.png



Cresselia @ Leftovers
Levitate
Timid
96 HP / 252 SpA / 160 Spe

~ Moonlight
~ Calm Mind
~ Psychic
~ Ice Beam

I was going to run a Bulky Gyarados set here but I didn't like the idea of having 3 pokemon weak to Electric. Cresselia still works well to cover Fighting and Ground types, with enough bulk and power to be an effective sweeper in the late game. I think she may be the weakest link on this team.


I've never been great at competitive battling, but I feel I've done an alright job with this team and it's been performing quite well on Shoddy. That said, I'm probably wrong, and have just had a string of nooby oponents. So please feel free to be as harsh as necessary when telling me how awful it is.
​
 
You want harsh? Alright then...

Luckily, if you want harsh, your lead is asking for it. Lead Aero is one of the games poorest leads, being dominated by Metagross, Jirachi, etc. I would suggest one of two replacement "bulky suicide" leads, both intended for and highly useful on offense teams:

Metagross Lead @ Occa Berry
Clear Body
Adamant
252 HP/236 Atk/12 Def/8 Spe
-Stealth Rock
-Earthquake
-Meteor Mash
-Bullet Punch

The ubiquitous Metagross lead, a staple on nearly all modern offense teams. It's designed to take hits while KOing the opposing lead and laying down SR. Most Meta leads run Explosion over one of the three attacks; however, many people (me included) find dropping Explosion leads to much better results. These 3 attacks can together deal with nearly any OU lead. For example, Azelf is Meteor Mash+Bullet Punch, as is your Aerodactyl. Infernape is EQ+Bullet Punch, with Occa Berry sponging Fire Blast. Heatran is much the same. SR is there for its suicideness. Alternatively, you can move more EVs to Speed. I would put at least 12 in Speed solely to outspeed other Meta, and likely more to outspeed Heatran. Whether you attack or SR first depends on your playstyle, just don't SR on a possible Taunter.

Or use this, possibly the most effective OU lead... ever.

Empoleon Lead @ Shuca Berry
Torrent
Modest
156 HP/252 SpA/100 Spe
-Stealth Rock
-Hydro Pump
-Aqua Jet
-Grass Knot/Roar/Yawn

You're probably thinking, "what the heck?" But it's effective. Stealth Rock is simply for, well, Stealth Rock. Hydro Pump deals KO damage to many leads. Aqua Jet finishes those dang Sashers off after a Hydro Pump. Grass Knot is for Swampert and coverage; however Yawn, Roar, or one of a plethora of other moves could be acceptable. Shuca allows it to take a Metagross' EQ or a Heatran's Earth Power, so you can finish it off the next turn. Of vital importance is the fact that Empoleon does not OHKO lead Metagross with Hydro Pump, or leave it in Aqua Jet range. It is therefore necessary to run sufficient Speed EVs to outspeed Metagross to Hydro Pump again; I believe 100 Speed EVs outspeeds the standard Meta lead above, unless I am mistaken. One note to playing this Empoleon is to never use Aqua Jet for anything other than finishing off an extremely weakened rival (such as 1 HP left from a Sash); its Aqua Jet is so weak that it only does about 50% to your current, defensively pathetic (suicidal actually) Aerodactyl, including being Super Effective. Sad.

Now to continue the analysis of your team. Machamp+Latias+Magnezone is an extremely solid combo; although crediting LR for it here might be nice. Come on, we can tell you didn't create those exact sets by yourself lol (or is that just me? I love that thread and all the ones like it). Anyway, LR's word is law as far as I'm concerned. He knows what he's doing, and although I've never tried it myself, I'm confident it would. Excellent.

Now, if you take it as a given that you have an Empoleon/Metagross lead, as I am, and throw in the above combo, there are only 2 offensive types that will cause you trouble: Fighting and Ground. Considering the dominance of these offensive types (Infernape is, I believe, #6 in OU and EQ is the #1 attack) it is vital to remedy this in the remaining two spots. Suicune does this to an extent utilizing her excellent defenses, and I believe you should keep her as a Crocune. Keep in mind that if you use Suicune, you may wish to lead Metagross so as to avoid having Suicune and Empoleon share a weakness. However, Empoleon will also bait out Suicune's counters, allowing you to know what you're dealing with. The choice is up to you: resistances or knowledge. Anyway, I think Crocune will keep with the theme of being able to set up with many Pokemon and keep your opponent on their toes. The Crocune set is here. Subcune is also good.

Oh my gosh this is long, but finally for that last team slot, hopefully resisting Fighting/Ground. Gyarados could do here, as well as Cress for added DD Mence insurance, which you may want looking at your team. As for a generic revenging Scarfer, if you feel so inclined, Choice Scarf Togekiss is pretty dang nice.

You're doing pretty good for being on your first post, you've obviously done your lurking. Nice job, hope to see you around.

P.S. Please understand that I have no antagonism towards you, only towards Aerodactyl. Honestly.
 
Thank you very much for the thorough and helpful analysis, luxor. I have implemented your suggestions to my team and have already noticed a huge improvement in performance.

On the issue of the Magnezone/Machamp/Latias combo it was something a friend of mine told me of, saying he saw it on "some forum". Thank you for informing me of who created it so I can give credit where credit is due. And for the link to that fascinating thread, reading through it has been very interesting. Once more, thank you.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top