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- Thread starter Birkal
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Anyone know when they re going to put up the new gen on smogon
I mean on the actual page like the other gens
Probably when all are done
Anyone know why the ability capsule doesn't work on the water starter
Because it does not work with Hidden Abilities.
Also, we think this Simple Question thread is a bit more appropiate for this question: Simple Questions / Simple Answers - XY Style
DUde wtf
When a new generation is introduced, what happens to the banlist? Because i don't believe my friend when he says a team of manaphy, deoxys, therian forms, and blaziken is an ou team.
This is the new and updated banlist. As you can see, we have two OU tiers in the moment: One with Pokebank implementation and one without. Your friend is referring to Pokebank OU, which can only be simulated by a simulator, of course.
252 SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 316-372 (88.26 - 103.91%) -- 25% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 411-484 (114.8 - 135.19%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Only when you boost HP Ice somehow you will be able to kill it. Without hazards or a Life Orb you will only have a chance less likely than a OHKO move.
Those are the XY calcs:
252 SpA Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 272-320 (75.97 - 89.38%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252 SpA Life Orb Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 354-416 (98.88 - 116.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO
252 SpA Life Orb Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 354-416 (98.88 - 116.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
252 SpA Choice Specs Jolteon Hidden Power Ice vs. 4 HP / 0 SpD Garchomp: 400-472 (111.73 - 131.84%) -- guaranteed OHKO
With only Leftovers and no Critical Hit the clear answer is 'no'.
I don't think I've ever seen anything get a OHKO with a hidden power
Why was the species clause implemented? What aspect of the species clause can make a team overpowered?
In the fourth gen there was this whole crazy thing with garchomp
Where some guy said he could beat a team of uberz using only gar chomps
He ran em but each of them with a different set like one choice scarfed
Another banded, left overs, and ect.
Well using 6x garchomps turned out to be better broken I'm the fourth gen
Which is why showdown does that rule
I'm just running flame thrower
What about anyone else? Is Fire Blast still worth using in the current state?
Yeah it still does bout the same damage
Depends on what you are running. I can think of certain scenarios in which it matters, like:
252 SpA Tyranitar Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 288-340 (81.81 - 96.59%) -- 93.75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and 1 layer of Spikes
252 SpA Tyranitar Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 236-280 (67.04 - 79.54%) -- 75% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and 3 layers of Spikes
4 SpA Salamence Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 256-304 (72.72 - 86.36%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock and 3 layers of Spikes
4 SpA Salamence Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 208-248 (59.09 - 70.45%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
192 SpA Life Orb Salamence Fire Blast vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 359-426 (101.98 - 121.02%) -- guaranteed OHKO
192 SpA Life Orb Salamence Flamethrower vs. 252 HP / 208 SpD Ferrothorn: 322-380 (91.47 - 107.95%) -- 43.75% chance to OHKO
And there are probably more, but really, it comes down to pure preference.
Well the two I am considering about is a 252 SpA Charizard Y and a 252 SpA Ninetales.
Charizard Y definitely wants Fire Blast. Ninetales comes down to preference really (last gen people ran defensive Ninetales which had Flamethrower, this gen no one does).
What are some good lures/surprise killers for Rotom-W in poke bank OU? I was thinking of both SD facade Gliscor and Mold Breaker Exacdrill, but both lose to scarfed sets thanks to Hydro Pump. My team has room for a dedicated counter, but in general the normal bulky grass and normal type counters slow it down too much...
mold breaker exca dosen't really surprise rotom-w, since on ps (and i'm pretty sure po as well), if you have mold breaker, it will say something along the lines of "excadrill breaks the mold!" there are a lot of good rotom-w lures, such as talonflame, hippowdon, gliscor etc. it depends on what your team looks like, since not all of them would fit well in your team.
How can I get attract on a milk tank in the 6 gen