Pickles Amazing RMT Moltres Leads off

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Team at a Glance..


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Moltres @ Leftovers
Timid
Flamethrower
-Roost
-Toxic
-Substitute
80 HP / 120 Def / 252 Spe / 58 Spa

This lead was made to be able to stop annoying zong leads. I found that this toxic set leads to many surprised KO’s by poisoning their bulky waters like vaporeon or swampter swap ins. Suicune, tentacruel, Empoleon, and heatran normally can stop my moltres cold, but I can PP stall the heatran most the time.
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Gastrodon @ Leftovers
Adamant
- Earthquake
- Waterfall
- Curse[/FONT]
- Recover
252 HP / 252 Def / 4 Atk

This is a good blissey counter as well as Tyranitar counter. It has amazing effects on everything. If gyrados has no taunt, gastrodon then can solo it, as well as mix mence, as Draco Meteor is not OHKO and I then can Recover damage. If mence is DDance, curse normally covers that. Most dangerous part about running this is that eventually the enemy might crit. But that’s pokemon eh?


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Weavile @ Choice Band
Adamant
- Ice Punch
- Night Slash[/FONT]
- Pursuit [/FONT]
- Brick Break
4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Speed


Well everyone loves a nice surprise OHKO. Well AdabandWeavile does that nicely. OHKO’s Garchomp with yache berry, and OHKO’s togekiss. 2HKO’s bronzing with SR, but I could not fit Stealth rock on this team, unfortunately. Hits 339 speed, hm, I do not need that many EV’s do I? Ill change it later. He just is a finish sweeper.

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Celebi @ Leftovers
Timid
- Calm Mind
- Baton Pass
- Grass Knot
- Recover
252 Hp / 80 Def / 176 Speed

My best gyrados counter for the taunt ones, gastrodon solo’s the non taunt ones. Celebi can give Calm minds to Gastrodon Moltres and itself which are very useful. Its mostly just a filler for countering more things like starmie.
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Foretress @ Leftovers / Shed Shell Mabye
Impish
- Explosion
- Rapid Spin
- Spike / Stealth Rock
- Gyro Ball
252 Hp / 152 Atk / 104 Def
Sdance weavile hurts my team a bit with I can not get rid Of SR, so I need a spinner anyways. So I chose foretress for support and spinning. I mostly run Explosion because I do not run Shed Shell, and I need to make sure I can get rid of Magnezone imidiatly (see next pokemon for details) Its bulky and is decent against Tyranitar.


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Dugtrio @ Choice Band
Jolly
- Earthquake
- Stone Edge
- Sucker Punch
- Arial Ace
4 Hp / 252 Atk / 252 Speed

This Is Magnezone killer. Trap my forry think your smart, I blow up and now your zone is gone! HA. Also covers mostly all the things moltres does not like. Traps and OHKO’s Empoleon sometimes, Heatran, and Tentacruel. This also traps Infernape, but moltres normally takes that On. I am considering replacing some speed EV’s to HP because I think Luke does a deal on this team.

Toxic Spikes really hurts my physical sweepers and SR is moltres own issue. Mostly I try to not let them be able to set up toxic spikes and SR but it does happen, and blowing up forteress is not always a good option, then I loose my spinner. Rate away plz.
 
yea, fixing font tags, and moltres is good against mixnape also. Also what you say just points out something, what is an alternate to the team then.
 
Don't be an ass, no one is gonna rate your team if you are.

Not much can take on MixNape, ScarfChomp can, and Gyarados can too
 
Specsmence has a fun time here considering nothing here can really switch in against it, draco meteor OHKOs the entire team after SR. You need a special wall of some sort in there.
 
Kietharr said:
Specsmence has a fun time here considering nothing here can really switch in against it, draco meteor OHKOs the entire team after SR. You need a special wall of some sort in there.
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I actually did consider this a bit. Only time that specs mence would be able to swap in safely is against dugtrio gastrodon and when weavile uses brick break. Gyroball hurts mence and weavile can pursuit it if the Mence uses fire blast / flamethrower to OKHO Forry. A special wall I think is not needed. I most likely will put some Spdef on forretress. Moltres subs and PP stalls mence, unless they use dragon pulse. Ouch... I probally might swap forry for tentacruel for another better Infernape and better mence counter. Thanks for the comment
 
Anyways, this team is very weak to mixape after dugtrio is taken out.
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Hardly. Moltres is a fabulous counter and Gastrodon will never be OHKO'd by Life Orb Grass Knot thanks to his low weight.

You're rather weak to SDLuke with Crunch, so I'd probably go ahead and run Sarenjii's standard spread from the analysis for that Moltres: Bold 248 HP / 148 Def / 112 Spe. This allows you to counter Luke better and imo it's an all round more effective spread. I can't see what you're doing with 306 speed...270 should be the absolute max imo.

I'd also be a little more comfortable if Weavile ran Ice Shard over Night Slash if only to stop DDmence from walking over your team. You say Gastrodon can take it, but it's a shaky counter at the best of times. Also, is there any reason why you're running Adamant over Jolly? Jolly already OHKO's Garchomp and all Togekiss barring the ridiculously defensive ones...it seems like overkill and you're sacrificing that incredibly valuable speed advantage over the likes of Gengar, Starmie, Azelf, Dugtrio, Sceptile etc.
 
Exactly. 306 only lets you beat the max of neutral natured base 100s. I've used the standard spread and it works wonders. I don't think there's anything there to outrun. Will-o-wisp is a far better alternative when not stalling a blissey. Will-o-wisp can also help weaken SDluke's blows by cutting its attack and with LO recoil he'll kill himself in no time. However, SDlukes Stone edge ko's him so he's a shaky counter, but Will-o-wisp is one of the rarer moves and it should be tried. You could try Air Slash on Moltres if Nape is really a problem.

And to the others who say Moltres can't counter Mixape; dead wrong. It can take CC's, NP boosted flamethrowers and grass knots(lol.). The occasional HP:[Ice] doesn't hurt it much either. It can stall it out and let it end itself with it's own LO recoil, falling stats from CC and flamethrowers.

I do admit that you have a large fire weak on your team. But Heatran and Nape are the only problems on your team and Moltres already walls them.

Weavile should carry Ice shard. Especially on one that doesn't have a jolly nature. Kills Chomps and mence without Yache easily as I can see them getting through your team after gastrodon faints.
 
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