Autosave won't save there. It only saves after you do specific things, mainly catching a Pokemon or exit/enter an area.View attachment 387273
Apparently it's possible to get soft-locked (if you autosave on) in Candice's gym.
Instead of battling you Candice just forces you to restart your entire game
Occurs to me that, while in this game the softlock potential is relatively small (if yo usave here multiple times as you say there's no way out, it's something kind of have to be unlucky to land here without clearing out other snowballs, etc) this is almost certainly why the puzzle was changed in Platinum to thisAutosave won't save there. It only saves after you do specific things, mainly catching a Pokemon or exit/enter an area.
You can apparently also access your back-up save manually in this game so you need to manually save there multiple times to truly get stuck.
This hasn't been the case since Gen V.I'm also pretty iffy on Snorlax having Covet & Heracross having Thief. They didn't use it on me, but this is outside of the battle facilities I am pretty sure if they steal an item from you it's gone forever.
Is it?This hasn't been the case since Gen V.
I had a trainer use Knock Off on one of my Pokemon and I can confirm you get your item back at the end of the battle. I imagine it's the same for Covet and Thief since, at it's core, it's removing your item.Is it?
I know that you cannot steal a trainer's items (probably didnt like you stealing good items from rematches like in HGSS), but I'm not sure how it works the other way around.
Is it?
I know that you cannot steal a trainer's items (probably didnt like you stealing good items from rematches like in HGSS), but I'm not sure how it works the other way around.
The Elite 4 levels just really highlight how messed up the level curve in this game was to begin with. Like you're probably going to be within spitting distance of Aaron at BEST but then bam, like 10-16 levels away from everyone else.I had a trainer use Knock Off on one of my Pokemon and I can confirm you get your item back at the end of the battle. I imagine it's the same for Covet and Thief since, at it's core, it's removing your item.
Anyways I'm fighting the Elite Four right now and I'm getting my ass kicked. I was overleveled against Volkner but now I'm UNDERLEVELED??? I couldn't even effortlessly sweep Aaron. You know, the guy with Dustox and Beautifly on his team. Cynthia is going to make me her bitch
Side note I like how the other E4 members talk about what type they like/use and all Flint says is "hey I know you! let's battle!" can't even bring himself to admit he's lacking
I see, okay, that's good then. Yeah Bulbapedia probably just have an oversight (there's a lot of those...the poor berry pages).
Interestingly, this isn't on Thief's page. However, on Thief's page is the edit that items stolen from trainers are now returned at the end of the battle as you noted (and is what I read from Gen V, assuming player counted as trainer). Perhaps Thief does steal permanently but Covet doesn't? Honestly seems likelier that Bulbapedia just forgot to put it on Thief's page; mechanical inconsistencies between Thief and Covet would be bizarre since I assume they're coded identically.
No, the biggest change is the AI. Regardless of what moves the original DP boss mons had, it was all for naught since the boss AI had the intelligence of a fetus.everyone's freaking out over the nonsense that is Drifblim but fu nfact: DP Flint was the same strategy.
wil o wisp & baton pass stuck. Double Team was swapped with Minimize (kind of...the same thing, but sure).
The biggest change are an unburden combo (since the trainers didnt typically have items to begin with; had aftermath instead) and swapping out Ominous Wind procs for Strength Sap
They must've put something in the AI that made Milotic's Scald burn every single Pokemon I sent out against it :(No, the biggest change is the AI. Regardless of what moves the original DP boss mons had, it was all for naught since the boss AI had the intelligence of a fetus.
Say what you will about BDSP but the AI appears to be phenomenal, perhaps surpassing even Platinum's AI let alone DP's.
Welcome to the Gen 5 metagame.They must've put something in the AI that made Milotic's Scald burn every single Pokemon I sent out against it :(
A lot of pokemon have insane level up movepools as well. Machop learns revenge at level 8, so it can straight up one shot Mars' Purugly. Gyarados gets waterfall at 21. Noctowl gets air slash and extrasensory at 18 and 21 respectively. Mothim and the Wormadams get quiver dance at evolution. Onix gets rock slide at level 20. A lot of Pokemon get engdame viable moves before level 25 naturally, so the tm's don't even make that much of a difference.So I’m behind — I got this game late and I’m also still in uni term and busy, but I just got to Veilstone and the TM shop here is absolutely insane? Like, I almost feel like the level up movesets of my team are now obsolete, these are viable end-game movesets:
Finneon - Water Pulse (will ofc become Surf), Ice Beam, Payback, U-Turn
Cherrim - Bullet Seed, Solar Beam, Growth, Sunny Day
Chingling - Psychic, Dazzling Gleam, Grass Knot, Calm Mind (one of 2 underground TMs I found, luckily)
Kricketune - Fury Cutter, Slash, Swords Dance, Sing
Murkrow - Wing Attack, Thief, Psychic, Steel Wing
Gligar - Acrobatics, Bulldoze, Stealth Rock, U-Turn
FWIW, the U-Turns are because I’m playing on Set Mode.
I’m fine with it, since these games are quite directly engineered for casual play considering things like the affection mechanic, but it does feel weird having Gligar and Murkrow with 3 TM moves and even Chingling with 4. On the other hand, movesets seem to largely be the same as SwSh who kinda messed them up completely, so I’m fine with the workaround. Gligar learning Acrobatics in the low 20s and Kricketune learning Fury Cutter immediately is certainly because of listed base power being lower than in practice, so giving other Pokémon equally broken options almost feels like an intentional choice to even the playing field. I guess the odder thing is the price — there are some extremely powerful moves for 1,000-3,000 Poké, and I could buy every TM I wanted after hitting the outfit store first. I’m doing a catch ‘em all run as well, and have spent a lot on PokéBalls.
Edit: Ayyy turn that Chingling into a Chimecho, first Veilstone Gym Trainer!
Can confirm, I’m pretty sure I saw in Pearl Cynthia’s Lucario Psychic my Steelix once or some garbageNo, the biggest change is the AI. Regardless of what moves the original DP boss mons had, it was all for naught since the boss AI had the intelligence of a fetus.
Say what you will about BDSP but the AI appears to be phenomenal, perhaps surpassing even Platinum's AI let alone DP's.