Programming PPRNG (Mac & iOS)

Hi, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but I can't find any RNG Reporter thread.
I'm wondering what happened to the encounter slot tables for Gen IV/V? The links from RNG Reporter now just go to an ad site. Is there another site with encounter tables, or a method that doesn't use them? And if this is the wrong section, sorry, could somebody redirect me? Thanks.
 

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Noticed this when discussing with someone else that this wasn't the intended set up.

All of the date spinners in my PPRNG don't have a year. Included (in the screenshot); PPRNG version (1.15.0) and Mac OS X version (10.9.4).

Just wondering if there's any way to resolve this my end, as I've (eventually) found an RNG I'd like to do which I can't find a seed for in 2014.


Edit: Thank you for the response... Well I feel stupid, changed that so many years ago I'd completely forgotten. Thanks for the help.

Issue resolved.
 
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Hi there.
Noticed this when discussing with someone else that this wasn't the intended set up.

All of the date spinners in my PPRNG don't have a year. Included (in the screenshot); PPRNG version (1.15.0) and Mac OS X version (10.9.4).

Just wondering if there's any way to resolve this my end, as I've (eventually) found an RNG I'd like to do which I can't find a seed for in 2014.
Sorry, I missed the notification for your post somehow.

I haven't seen this exact issue before, but PPRNG just uses the standard system controls for date entry, so my guess is that you have changed how the date is displayed on your Mac.

You can check in System Settings to see how you've configured display of dates. There are different settings for full dates, partial dates, etc.
 
I'm a semiexperienced RNGer. I've done many a mon on my Pokemon White Versions. However, for whatever reason, I'm having one helluva time trying to calibrate my Black 2. Whether through the search using a captured Pokemon and Sweet Scent, or using the Unova Link, I can't seem to get a correct Timer0. Is it possible that there is literally no correct/consistant Timer0 (I realize they fluctuate decently heavily) for my Black 2? I've used the same DS Lite for many RNG attempts with my Pokemon White Versions, but Hidden Grotto abuse is awful.
 
I'm a semiexperienced RNGer. I've done many a mon on my Pokemon White Versions. However, for whatever reason, I'm having one helluva time trying to calibrate my Black 2. Whether through the search using a captured Pokemon and Sweet Scent, or using the Unova Link, I can't seem to get a correct Timer0. Is it possible that there is literally no correct/consistant Timer0 (I realize they fluctuate decently heavily) for my Black 2? I've used the same DS Lite for many RNG attempts with my Pokemon White Versions, but Hidden Grotto abuse is awful.
I haven't done much RNG abuse in 5th gen. But I know the Timer0 in bw2, is much more unpredictable. If you have the choice, RNG in the first games. Otherwise, you're going to have a very difficult time RNGing
 

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Whether through the search using a captured Pokemon and Sweet Scent, or using the Unova Link, I can't seem to get a correct Timer0. Is it possible that there is literally no correct/consistant Timer0 (I realize they fluctuate decently heavily) for my Black 2?
If you are having trouble getting stable results when calibrating (particularly when using the IV method), either one of your settings in your profile is wrong (double check the MAC address to make sure there aren't any mix ups between Bs and 8s, for example), or there is a problem with your technique when starting (hard reset, never turn c-gear on, do not take even a single step before sweet scenting).
 
I think the program is reporting incorrect results (this is on the Mac version of PPRNG).

Take the seed A4686420B73B747F as an example, with a target of 31/31/31/31/31/0 and encounter slot 5 on frame 84. According to PPRNG, this should result in a female if the gender ratio of the pokemon in that slot is 50/50 (which is what I assume the gender ratio's are for at the top). Anyways, I RNG and do the normal procedure, but I encounter a male instead! I could be reading the gender ratio's wrong, but I assume that's what 1/8, 1/4, 1/2, and 3/4 mean.

EDIT: Tried again, this time at frame 171 (I stopped at 170, then sweet scented). Still supposed to encounter a ferroseed, encountered a joltik instead. Why am I getting incorrect results?

It seems to be an issue with moving NPCs. Not sure if Chargestone Cave has them, but oh well... seems like I'm off frames which is definitely not an issue of PPRNG. Sorry~

Anyway, for 4th gen searches, it seems that inputting the encounter slots is irrelevant, because whenever I do, I'm given seeds where the encounter slots don't even match what I set the program to search for.
 
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Hello! As a Mac user I love having an RNG software I can use! I have learned how to use it reliably in the 5th gen, but wish to RNG in Gen 4 too. (That Cute Charm thing looks amazing) however, there's a lot I don't understand about the 4th gen setup. I found my secret ID useing the software, but I dont know how to go forward with hitting a simple seed. I want a shiny starter on HG, that's method one, right? I found a seed in which the star appears on frame 23. Will saving progess the frame as it does in BW? And I have no understanding of delay. Do I let the intro play? Or do I stop it? The time, is it still the exact start up time? Or does the delay effect it? I have a DS lite and Ruby/Sapphire for switching odd/even, apparently that happens. So... Can anyone help?

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I have done additional research and been attempting things all morning. I found the Zong Timer, and with it have been able to constantly receive the same pokemon, but not the desired pokemon. I have found out that the three starters of Heart Gold are based on different frames. The ones I want are ether Chikorita (Frame 1) or Cyndaquil (Frame 5) I have found no seeds with shinys on frame one but a few on frame five. However, I am encountering an error, I search for shiny, it comes up shiny, but upon clicking it the inspector holds no shiny on the seed. So I am unable to find a shiny seed. ANY shiny seed. I'd basically have to choose a random seed and hope it has my shiny on it.

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After continuing to search, I still encounter the problem of not being able to search for shiny seeds, however I wrote down the seed number of a seed with a star on frame 2. Then, I found a way to advance the frame! (Saving doesn't work) So I got A Shiny Chikorita! So no longer in a rush, but I still want to know whats up with this error.

Sorry for so many edits!
 
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Since the macOS Sierra update for my Mac PPRNG is no longer usable. It simply says:

"You can't use this version of the application "PPRNG 1.15.0.app" with this version of macOS."

Just wondering if there will be a fix for this ever. Sorry if I'm not supposed to post here, but I wanted to say something on here since there hasn't been a post about it (that I've seen). :(
 
Since the macOS Sierra update for my Mac PPRNG is no longer usable. It simply says:

"You can't use this version of the application "PPRNG 1.15.0.app" with this version of macOS."

Just wondering if there will be a fix for this ever. Sorry if I'm not supposed to post here, but I wanted to say something on here since there hasn't been a post about it (that I've seen). :(
The app doesn't work anymore because osx 10.12 stopped supporting Objective-C garbage collection.
(when run from terminal this is the error: "objc[56730]: Objective-C garbage collection is no longer supported.")

One of the developers would need to update the code. I did find a Github for PPRNG (https://github.com/chiizu/PPRNG), maybe I could take a stab at fixing it...
 
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The app doesn't work anymore because osx 10.12 stopped supporting Objective-C garbage collection.
(when run from terminal this is the error: "objc[56730]: Objective-C garbage collection is no longer supported.")

One of the developers would need to update the code. I did find a Github for PPRNG (https://github.com/chiizu/PPRNG), maybe I could take a stab at fixing it...
Good news! I successfully made fixes to the code so the app now works on 10.12! :D
I forked the source to my GitHub, so if anyone wants it, it's here: https://github.com/michellevholloway/PPRNG

In the meantime here is a zip for the updated app. Right now I'm just hosting it from my own dropbox, but if OP wants to update this thread or host it somewhere else lmk!
PPRNG 1.15.1 (Last updated: 6/17/17)

(I haven't done any extensive testing yet, but I didn't change anything with the base algorithms so it should all be the same. I also only tried it on 10.12, but it should be fine back to 10.7)
 
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Good news! I successfully made fixes to the code so the app now works on 10.12! :D
I forked the source to my GitHub, so if anyone wants it, it's here: https://github.com/michellevholloway/PPRNG

In the meantime here is a zip for the updated app. Right now I'm just hosting it from my own dropbox, but if OP wants to update this thread or host it somewhere else lmk!
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/s/g9yqcp8aq4vzpzl/PPRNG 1.15.1.zip

(I haven't done any extensive testing yet, but I didn't change anything with the base algorithms so it should all be the same. I also only tried it on 10.12, but it should be fine back to 10.7)
Hey this is cool, I just update to 10.12.5 I downloaded your updated app but when I try to open it, it said some components were missing. So of course I downloaded the Xkit file and opened the file, and this line was the problem:
"boost/date_time/gregorian/gregorian.hpp" It said it could not find the file. I haven't edited anything as of now, should I?
 
Hey this is cool, I just update to 10.12.5 I downloaded your updated app but when I try to open it, it said some components were missing. So of course I downloaded the Xkit file and opened the file, and this line was the problem:
"boost/date_time/gregorian/gregorian.hpp" It said it could not find the file. I haven't edited anything as of now, should I?
I'll take a look at it tonight, I probably need to package some contents into the app resources that I didn't know about... My environment on my computer is set to know the location of the boost library but it probably needs to be packaged with the app for universal ability to run
 
I'll take a look at it tonight, I probably need to package some contents into the app resources that I didn't know about... My environment on my computer is set to know the location of the boost library but it probably needs to be packaged with the app for universal ability to run

Yeah thanks. I installed some additional Xkit components and it solved that problem but reveled another very similar one... I can try again and make notes again, But its seems clear that I'm missing some developer tools that would let me run this... (My computer is old...) I'll look deeper into my missing files as well and keep you posted.
 
Yeah thanks. I installed some additional Xkit components and it solved that problem but reveled another very similar one... I can try again and make notes again, But its seems clear that I'm missing some developer tools that would let me run this... (My computer is old...) I'll look deeper into my missing files as well and keep you posted.
Ok I'm pretty sure I fixed it. It still runs fine on my end so you'll have to test it ;)
I updated the dropbox zip, so that link I posted earlier should download the most recent version
 
Anyone else having trouble opening the 'Dream Radar seed inspector' tab? Whenever I try to double-click a seed it doesn't open the information like it used to. In other words; can't RNG genies and other legendaries atm.
 
Anyone else having trouble opening the 'Dream Radar seed inspector' tab? Whenever I try to double-click a seed it doesn't open the information like it used to. In other words; can't RNG genies and other legendaries atm.
I can try and look at that this weekend if I get some time :)
 
Is there still any support for this thread? It appears the file for macs on page 1 of this thread is no longer available to download, but i was able to download the app and use it to RNG a perfect legend through an encounter, but i'm running into some real difficulty trying to use the pprng app for getting perfect egg pokemon. I've ready numerous forums and guides and can't seem to figure out what i'm doing wrong. I've watched you tube video's and can't figure it out form there either. I'll hold back on giving the specifics of my questions until i know if anyone out there is still even trying to use pprng app for gen 5.
 

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