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[SET]
name: Defensive
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Precipice Blades
move 3: Stone Edge / Toxic
move 4: Toxic / Rest
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 SpD
[SET COMMENTS]
With a specially defensive set, Primal Groudon notably acts as a great switch-in to Primal Kyogre and a reliable way of wasting Dynamax turns from Xerneas. Stealth Rock is a great move on Primal Groudon, since its bulk and typing give it numerous switch-in opportunities against common Pokemon such as Zacian-C, defensive Necrozma-DM, and Ho-Oh. Although uninvested, Precipice Blades is a powerful STAB move that 2HKOes Primal Kyogre and non-Dynamaxed Xerneas. Stone Edge is mainly run in order to force Ho-Oh, the best Defogger, out immediately, but it also hits Yveltal very hard. Toxic cripples Primal Groudon's checks such as non-Refresh Arceus-Ground and Mega Rayquaza and, most importantly, puts Yveltal on a timer. Rest allows Primal Groudon to wall Ho-Oh, defensive Necrozma-DM, and Arceus-Water throughout the entire game by curing it from Toxic poison. It also makes up for Primal Groudon's lack of reliable recovery so it can repeatedly check Primal Kyogre even during longer matches. Roar mitigates the bad Zygarde-C matchup while racking up Stealth Rock damage and prevents Primal Groudon from being used as setup fodder by Mega Rayquaza, Smeargle, Vivillion, and an overly confident Xerneas, but it is hard to justify over other moves. Lava Plume is usable over Toxic as a spammable STAB move that pressures physically defensive Necrozma-DM much harder and can burn would-be switch-ins like Mega Rayquaza, but it gives Primal Groudon a worse matchup against support Arceus formes and Lunala. The EV spread maximizes its Special Defense and guarantees that Primal Groudon is never 2HKOed by Adamant Zacian-C's Close Combat when healthy. If running Lava Plume, Primal Groudon should use a Sassy nature. A fully physically defensive EV spread can be used to make Primal Groudon much better against Zacian-C, but this job is done better by Necrozma-DM since the latter has reliable recovery and Close Combat is still a 3HKO on physically defensive Primal Groudon.
Primal Groudon fits best on balance and bulky offense teams in need of a Primal Kyogre check, Stealth Rock setter, and way of wasting Xerneas's Dynamax turns. It is also a good Zacian-C check, since it is able to switch in on all of said foe's moves except Close Combat. Early-game, play aggressively with Primal Groudon since only defensive Zygarde-C and Refresh Arceus formes truly counter it. Use Stealth Rock if there's a good opportunity to, but don't hesitate to use Toxic or an attack instead if you expect your opponent to send out a powerful wallbreaker like Yveltal, Mega Rayquaza, or Primal Kyogre. Even though Primal Groudon resists most of Zacian-C's moves, Close Combat is too powerful for it to handle, so having a teammate like defensive Necrozma-DM or Zygarde-C is a good idea. Ho-Oh and Primal Groudon form a potent defensive core compressing Stealth Rock and Defog that also works well at wasting Dynamax turns from the likes of Xerneas and Yveltal. Furthermore, Primal Groudon can switch into Water- and Electric-type attacks from Pokemon like Primal Kyogre and Zacian-C, while Ho-Oh can switch into support Arceus-Ground. Having your own Primal Groudon check is important too, so take a look at team options such as Zygarde-C and Arceus-Ground, which also improve the matchup against Mega Rayquaza, one of the most dangerous threats to Primal Groudon. Finally, Ditto can come in after Primal Groudon has been defeated by Zacian-C, Xerneas, or Mega Rayquaza and proceed to reverse sweep. It is a recommended teammate, especially if Primal Groudon is running Rest, because Primal Groudon leaves its team dangerously vulnerable to sweepers when asleep.
[SET]
name: Stealth Rock + Swords Dance
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Swords Dance
move 3: Precipice Blades
move 4: Rock Tomb / Stone Edge
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 36 Def / 8 SpD / 132 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
This set turns Primal Groudon into both a good Stealth Rock setter and a wallbreaker. Primal Groudon can easily find opportunities to set Stealth Rock up or use Swords Dance against foes it forces out such as Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM. Swords Dance turns Primal Groudon into a powerful wallbreaker that can surprise and decimate bulkier teams lacking Arceus-Ground. It is especially useful for breaking past defensive Zygarde with some prior chip damage, and it also allows Primal Groudon to beat Defoggers such as Lunala and Arceus-Water. Precipice Blades is its strongest STAB attack and achieves perfect coverage with Stone Edge, which targets Flying-types such as Ho-Oh and Yveltal. The EV spread guarantees that Primal Groudon is never 2HKOed by Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam after Stealth Rock damage and that Zacian-C never 2HKOes Primal Groudon with Close Combat. The Speed investment makes it faster than positive-natured Arceus formes after one use of Rock Tomb, allowing it to set Stealth Rock versus them. Crucially, it also allows Primal Groudon to outspeed defensive Zygarde and Lunala and potentially break past them. The remaining EVs go in Attack to increase its wallbreaking capability. An EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe with a Jolly nature also works very nicely as a surprise factor, since it notably lets Primal Groudon outspeed Yveltal and support Arceus-Ground and Speed tie with Primal Kyogre.
Usually, it is best to set Stealth Rock up as soon as possible against offensive teams. Against balance teams that rely on defensive Zygarde-C to check Primal Groudon, weaken it first while taking care not to activate Power Construct, then use Swords Dance to break through it the next time Primal Groudon comes in. Having teammates that can handle Mega Rayquaza is important because it doesn't fear much from Primal Groudon; Zacian-C and Eternatus can check it offensively, while defensive Zygarde-C can paralyze it with Glare or phaze it with Dragon Tail as long as Mega Rayquaza doesn't carry a Dragon-type move. Zygarde-C also helps a lot against opposing Primal Groudon. Having solid counterplay to Arceus-Ground such as Ho-Oh and Ferrothorn is required, too. Since this set fits best on offensive teams that can use Primal Groudon as a Stealth Rock setter and wallbreaker that facilitates sweepers' task, sweepers such as Zacian-C, Xerneas, Yveltal, and Dragon Dance Necrozma-DM make for good partners. The former two can also help with checking opposing Yveltal, which can easily use Primal Groudon as an opportunity to switch in and Dynamax. Zacian-C, in particular, greatly appreciates Rock Tomb support, since it prevents Speed-boosting sweepers such as Dragon Dance Mega Rayquaza and Ultra Necrozma from becoming faster than Zacian-C while inflicting enough damage to put them in KO range of Behemoth Blade.
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Ktütverde, 286018]]
- Quality checked by: [[bigtalk, 466663], [Guardsweeper, 360582]]
- Grammar checked by: [[bigtalk, 466663]]
name: Defensive
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Precipice Blades
move 3: Stone Edge / Toxic
move 4: Toxic / Rest
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Careful
evs: 252 HP / 36 Def / 220 SpD
[SET COMMENTS]
With a specially defensive set, Primal Groudon notably acts as a great switch-in to Primal Kyogre and a reliable way of wasting Dynamax turns from Xerneas. Stealth Rock is a great move on Primal Groudon, since its bulk and typing give it numerous switch-in opportunities against common Pokemon such as Zacian-C, defensive Necrozma-DM, and Ho-Oh. Although uninvested, Precipice Blades is a powerful STAB move that 2HKOes Primal Kyogre and non-Dynamaxed Xerneas. Stone Edge is mainly run in order to force Ho-Oh, the best Defogger, out immediately, but it also hits Yveltal very hard. Toxic cripples Primal Groudon's checks such as non-Refresh Arceus-Ground and Mega Rayquaza and, most importantly, puts Yveltal on a timer. Rest allows Primal Groudon to wall Ho-Oh, defensive Necrozma-DM, and Arceus-Water throughout the entire game by curing it from Toxic poison. It also makes up for Primal Groudon's lack of reliable recovery so it can repeatedly check Primal Kyogre even during longer matches. Roar mitigates the bad Zygarde-C matchup while racking up Stealth Rock damage and prevents Primal Groudon from being used as setup fodder by Mega Rayquaza, Smeargle, Vivillion, and an overly confident Xerneas, but it is hard to justify over other moves. Lava Plume is usable over Toxic as a spammable STAB move that pressures physically defensive Necrozma-DM much harder and can burn would-be switch-ins like Mega Rayquaza, but it gives Primal Groudon a worse matchup against support Arceus formes and Lunala. The EV spread maximizes its Special Defense and guarantees that Primal Groudon is never 2HKOed by Adamant Zacian-C's Close Combat when healthy. If running Lava Plume, Primal Groudon should use a Sassy nature. A fully physically defensive EV spread can be used to make Primal Groudon much better against Zacian-C, but this job is done better by Necrozma-DM since the latter has reliable recovery and Close Combat is still a 3HKO on physically defensive Primal Groudon.
Primal Groudon fits best on balance and bulky offense teams in need of a Primal Kyogre check, Stealth Rock setter, and way of wasting Xerneas's Dynamax turns. It is also a good Zacian-C check, since it is able to switch in on all of said foe's moves except Close Combat. Early-game, play aggressively with Primal Groudon since only defensive Zygarde-C and Refresh Arceus formes truly counter it. Use Stealth Rock if there's a good opportunity to, but don't hesitate to use Toxic or an attack instead if you expect your opponent to send out a powerful wallbreaker like Yveltal, Mega Rayquaza, or Primal Kyogre. Even though Primal Groudon resists most of Zacian-C's moves, Close Combat is too powerful for it to handle, so having a teammate like defensive Necrozma-DM or Zygarde-C is a good idea. Ho-Oh and Primal Groudon form a potent defensive core compressing Stealth Rock and Defog that also works well at wasting Dynamax turns from the likes of Xerneas and Yveltal. Furthermore, Primal Groudon can switch into Water- and Electric-type attacks from Pokemon like Primal Kyogre and Zacian-C, while Ho-Oh can switch into support Arceus-Ground. Having your own Primal Groudon check is important too, so take a look at team options such as Zygarde-C and Arceus-Ground, which also improve the matchup against Mega Rayquaza, one of the most dangerous threats to Primal Groudon. Finally, Ditto can come in after Primal Groudon has been defeated by Zacian-C, Xerneas, or Mega Rayquaza and proceed to reverse sweep. It is a recommended teammate, especially if Primal Groudon is running Rest, because Primal Groudon leaves its team dangerously vulnerable to sweepers when asleep.
[SET]
name: Stealth Rock + Swords Dance
move 1: Stealth Rock
move 2: Swords Dance
move 3: Precipice Blades
move 4: Rock Tomb / Stone Edge
item: Red Orb
ability: Drought
nature: Adamant
evs: 252 HP / 80 Atk / 36 Def / 8 SpD / 132 Spe
[SET COMMENTS]
This set turns Primal Groudon into both a good Stealth Rock setter and a wallbreaker. Primal Groudon can easily find opportunities to set Stealth Rock up or use Swords Dance against foes it forces out such as Zacian-C and Necrozma-DM. Swords Dance turns Primal Groudon into a powerful wallbreaker that can surprise and decimate bulkier teams lacking Arceus-Ground. It is especially useful for breaking past defensive Zygarde with some prior chip damage, and it also allows Primal Groudon to beat Defoggers such as Lunala and Arceus-Water. Precipice Blades is its strongest STAB attack and achieves perfect coverage with Stone Edge, which targets Flying-types such as Ho-Oh and Yveltal. The EV spread guarantees that Primal Groudon is never 2HKOed by Primal Kyogre's Ice Beam after Stealth Rock damage and that Zacian-C never 2HKOes Primal Groudon with Close Combat. The Speed investment makes it faster than positive-natured Arceus formes after one use of Rock Tomb, allowing it to set Stealth Rock versus them. Crucially, it also allows Primal Groudon to outspeed defensive Zygarde and Lunala and potentially break past them. The remaining EVs go in Attack to increase its wallbreaking capability. An EV spread of 4 HP / 252 Atk / 252 Spe with a Jolly nature also works very nicely as a surprise factor, since it notably lets Primal Groudon outspeed Yveltal and support Arceus-Ground and Speed tie with Primal Kyogre.
Usually, it is best to set Stealth Rock up as soon as possible against offensive teams. Against balance teams that rely on defensive Zygarde-C to check Primal Groudon, weaken it first while taking care not to activate Power Construct, then use Swords Dance to break through it the next time Primal Groudon comes in. Having teammates that can handle Mega Rayquaza is important because it doesn't fear much from Primal Groudon; Zacian-C and Eternatus can check it offensively, while defensive Zygarde-C can paralyze it with Glare or phaze it with Dragon Tail as long as Mega Rayquaza doesn't carry a Dragon-type move. Zygarde-C also helps a lot against opposing Primal Groudon. Having solid counterplay to Arceus-Ground such as Ho-Oh and Ferrothorn is required, too. Since this set fits best on offensive teams that can use Primal Groudon as a Stealth Rock setter and wallbreaker that facilitates sweepers' task, sweepers such as Zacian-C, Xerneas, Yveltal, and Dragon Dance Necrozma-DM make for good partners. The former two can also help with checking opposing Yveltal, which can easily use Primal Groudon as an opportunity to switch in and Dynamax. Zacian-C, in particular, greatly appreciates Rock Tomb support, since it prevents Speed-boosting sweepers such as Dragon Dance Mega Rayquaza and Ultra Necrozma from becoming faster than Zacian-C while inflicting enough damage to put them in KO range of Behemoth Blade.
[CREDITS]
- Written by: [[Ktütverde, 286018]]
- Quality checked by: [[bigtalk, 466663], [Guardsweeper, 360582]]
- Grammar checked by: [[bigtalk, 466663]]
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