PU PU Classic - Playoffs (Finals)

Leni

formerly tlenit
is a Forum Moderator Alumnusis a Community Contributor Alumnusis a Top Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Past SCL Champion
RUPL Champion
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Welcome to the PU Classic!
Tournament Rules:
  • The format will be as follows: One generation is chosen to be the first game. Then, the loser of the first match chooses the generation for the second. And then, if needed, the loser of the second match then chooses the generation for the third match. This means that 1 generation will remain unplayed. The higher seed picks the first match.
  • Players with the same amount of points rightfully acquired the same seed. As such, matchups for these players were decided randomly to make it as fair as possible.
  • Best of three, single elimination.
  • Battles should take place on Pokemon Showdown!
  • Replays are mandatory!
  • Do not make baseless activity posts, get in contact with your opponent and report missed times / scheduling issues only.
  • Standard clauses apply.
  • All the usual Smogon rules regarding activity, timer, disconnection, and ghosting rules apply.

Standard Rules and Clauses

Clauses:

  • Species Clause: Limit one of each Pokémon
  • OHKO Clause: OHKO moves are banned
  • Moody Clause: Moody is banned
  • Evasion Moves Clause: Evasion moves are banned
  • Endless Battle Clause: Forcing endless battles is banned
  • Evasion Abilities Clause: Evasion abilities are banned
  • Baton Pass Clause: Limit one Baton Passer, can't pass Spe and other stats simultaneously
  • Swagger Clause: Swagger is banned

General Tournament Rules:

1. Identity: I expect many battles to be completed under alts. This can be bad for tournament security, and thus I will make this clear: If I hear any whispers of identity theft (battling as someone you are not) or proxy battling (helping someone else battle through pm) I will not be pleased and I will take severe actions.
2. Scouting: Next, I do not want to hear anything about counterteaming, at all. Do not complain about it. I also don't want to hear about any blatant scouting. There is a difference between "[user] is known for using stall" and "let me follow [user] around all day to watch all his battles since I am his opponent". I expect a lot of the former and none of the latter. I give permission to all battlers to ask any person spectating their battle to leave if they do not want them watching. Everyone will have access to your replays from earlier rounds though.
3. Timer Clause: As for taking long between moves, if your opponent asks you to hurry up, please oblige. If you are doing a damage calc for a key turn that is one thing, but prolonging every move is suspicious and annoying. Don't do it. Furthermore, Battle Timeout is a rule for a reason. If you run out of time, you lose, simple as that. It does not matter what your opponent says. Do not battle if you think you will have to leave mid battle, and instead reschedule for a better time.
4. Disconnections: Finally, in the case of a disconnect, the decision is in the hands of the player who did not disconnect. The options are: redo the battle move for move, redo the battle with the same teams but different moves, or redo the battle with completely different teams. If the battle was without a doubt over, they may also take the win. Any suspicion that a disconnect was committed on purpose to redo a match may be appealed to me, and if I feel this happened there will be severe consequences, don't do it.

The very final matchup:
Ktütverde vs Xiri

No real deadline, but make sure to play as soon as possible when it fits for you both the best! Do not forget to inform us when it is happening!

Would like to wish you both good luck!​
 

Ktütverde

of course
is a Top Tiering Contributor Alumnusis a Former Smogon Metagame Tournament Circuit Champion
Won in 2 vs my brother Xiri, ggs man and sorry about the bullshit.
g1: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen7pu-1330712306-4ilhwa968ei50udr5txcxnkoa5hyn34pw
g2: https://replay.pokemonshowdown.com/gen6pu-1330723654-d001t2f59wuy9r1gu6eudz9pp0ol6tvpw

Well g1 is what it is, a couple of crucial 5050s happening and haxx from my part. G2 a very good game, RNG strikes again for finals and 5050s happening again. Very well played Xiri, I wish it went to g3 because I would have loved to play you one more game. I dont remember every one of our games but you're easily one of the best players I've ever faced. As I like to think, when games are so close like that and even though I won there, it doesnt matter who won, we're both winners or both losers. I'm winning the tournament now, but in my heart you won it too. Peace fren and thanks for the scheduling, I really appreciated it. I hope to play you again soon.

I talked to Xiri for more than an hour after our game (seriously, this guy is amazing), if you're interested in our insight of the second game (much better than the first), I copypasted that part of our discussion below (with Xiri's agreement of course).
[06:21:42] Ktutverde: that rapidash almost 6-0ed me
[06:21:52] Ktutverde: was it metronome or something?
[06:21:55] Snow Jiniri: helmet
[06:21:59] Ktutverde: oh cool
[06:22:04] Ktutverde: I calced and it wasnt charcoal
[06:22:07] Snow Jiniri: it probably should have been lefties
[06:22:17] Ktutverde: I think I fucked up with clef
[06:22:25] Ktutverde: but I wanted you to trick so that kadabra can sweep
[06:22:36] Ktutverde: so I just stayed in
[06:22:49] Ktutverde: not sure if it was a good play
[06:22:53] Ktutverde: but kadabra did sweep
[06:23:13] Snow Jiniri: ig i probably should have not risked the poison
[06:23:41] Ktutverde: I fucked up by sending golem on chatot turn2
[06:23:47] Ktutverde: but I thought the thing ran nastyplot
[06:24:00] Snow Jiniri: its too frail to set up
[06:24:01] Ktutverde: when specs is actually better
[06:24:03] Ktutverde: yeah
[06:24:14] Ktutverde: yeah should have gone bronzor and walled it
[06:24:19] Ktutverde: im bad
[06:24:20] Snow Jiniri: well
[06:24:22] Snow Jiniri: heat wave 2hkoes so
[06:24:27] Ktutverde: yeah but
[06:24:33] Ktutverde: golem would have been healthy
[06:24:34] Snow Jiniri: you play mind games later with that
[06:24:35] Snow Jiniri: yeah
[06:24:40] Ktutverde: but
[06:24:46] Ktutverde: vibrava walled golem
[06:24:51] Ktutverde: so that wasnt too useful
[06:25:05] Ktutverde: I thought bronzor could "sweep" with toxic and wave
[06:25:13] Ktutverde: if I kept it healthy
[06:25:31] Ktutverde: and from your POV, what was the gameplan?
[06:25:59] Snow Jiniri: it was originally just trying to get chatot in as much as possible and pressure everything on your team
[06:26:06] Snow Jiniri: but after you revealed cm clef it changed
[06:26:32] Snow Jiniri: trick clef, and pressure with rapidash instead
[06:27:04] Ktutverde: yeah that's what I thought
[06:27:22] Ktutverde: I also thought you wouldnt trick because clef was such a threat
[06:27:34] Ktutverde: but that you would scare me into switching out
[06:27:47] Snow Jiniri: at that point I had no choice
[06:27:56] Snow Jiniri: cuz otherwise clef swept
[06:28:18] Ktutverde: yes but it would also sweep if you tricked another mon right
[06:28:33] Snow Jiniri: well
[06:28:39] Snow Jiniri: I had a shaky check in bu gogoat
[06:28:47] Snow Jiniri: so I wouldn't lose 100% but
[06:28:50] Snow Jiniri: it was para'd so low chances
[06:28:54] Snow Jiniri: but I had to take those
[06:30:02] Ktutverde: now that you say it maybe I messed up
[06:30:18] Ktutverde: i mean when u said u had to trick
[06:30:50] Ktutverde: well the thing is
[06:30:56] Ktutverde: I thought u had metronome rapidash
[06:31:01] Ktutverde: which should beat clef
[06:31:19] Ktutverde: I would have played very differently if I knew u didnt have metronome
[06:31:30] Ktutverde: i couldnt think of any other item
[06:31:39] Snow Jiniri: I was max hp max speed so
[06:31:44] Snow Jiniri: thought the damage would have made it known
[06:31:49] Ktutverde: yes you were
[06:31:58] Ktutverde: but u had neither lefties or charcoal
[06:32:04] Ktutverde: and u were sub
[06:32:12] Ktutverde: so the only item that made sense to me was metro
[06:32:54] Ktutverde: I ran calcs
[06:33:01] Ktutverde: metronome p much countered clef
[06:33:07] Ktutverde: +2 moon did 25
[06:33:26] Ktutverde: so if I tried to 1v1 dash
[06:33:39] Ktutverde: clefairy would be so low it would have become useless
[06:33:59] Ktutverde: so in my gameplan, rapidash kinda countered clef when it was actually the opposite
[06:34:24] Snow Jiniri: mhm yeah
[06:34:38] Ktutverde: like from your POV
[06:34:51] Ktutverde: if I go clef u have to switchout rapidash
[06:35:02] Ktutverde: but in mine, I cant send clef on dash
[06:35:05] Ktutverde: XD
[06:35:34] Ktutverde: I mean Idk oras enough
[06:35:47] Ktutverde: never heard of helmet dash
[06:35:56] Ktutverde: never heard of dash at all
[06:36:02] Ktutverde: I did what I could
[06:36:21] Ktutverde: you knew about sucker golem
[06:36:22] Snow Jiniri: you played well
[06:36:24] Snow Jiniri: yes
[06:36:33] Ktutverde: I thought u wouldnt know oras enough
[06:36:42] Ktutverde: and that golem would just die turn2
[06:36:50] Snow Jiniri: I started in oras so I know things
[06:36:50] Ktutverde: *u would think
[06:36:54] Ktutverde: oooh
[06:37:01] Ktutverde: ive never played oras before this classic
[06:37:15] Snow Jiniri: it took way too much damage to be defensive so
[06:37:19] Snow Jiniri: I figured it was band
[06:37:25] Ktutverde: yep
[06:37:46] Ktutverde: I almost doubled out after sending golem
[06:38:02] Ktutverde: but I thought u wouldnt know oras much and I could try the sucker
[06:38:20] Ktutverde: bad play I suppose
[06:39:04] Ktutverde: I deserved to lose tbh
[06:39:11] Ktutverde: I knew bringing such a slow team was a bad idea
[06:39:20] Snow Jiniri: I mean
[06:39:37] Snow Jiniri: it was a good team to bring vs the team I used funnily enough
[06:39:43] Ktutverde: you had a great one
[06:39:50] Snow Jiniri: since you had walls to most of my breakers/sweepers
[06:39:59] Ktutverde: true
[06:40:10] Ktutverde: but I thought the horse was metronome so I almost gave up lol
[06:40:19] Ktutverde: thats funny now
[06:40:30] Snow Jiniri: rapidash seemed like a threat but it was moreso a defensive role on that team
[06:40:43] Ktutverde: but I honestly almost forfeited cuz I didnt see how to win
[06:40:55] Snow Jiniri: I was relying on chatot, gogoat and mime to break but you had walls for all of those (ig chatot is a little iffy since heat wave 2hkoes)
[06:41:13] Ktutverde: I dislike oras
[06:41:22] Ktutverde: it's also always always haxxy
[06:41:25] Ktutverde: dont know why


Peace.
 

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