Project PU Core Analysis Workshop (Discussing partners to Rotom-F + Monferno)

Reserving Whirlipede.

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Whirlipede @ Focus Sash
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 244 HP / 12 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Spikes
- Toxic Spikes
- Protect
- Endeavor

Whirlipede is an excellent partner to the posted core because of it's access to not only Spikes, but Toxic Spikes as well. Volt-Turn (Or in this case, Volt-Pass) teams need an offensive hazard setter, and Whirlipede is an excellent one at that, being able to wear down opponents teams. In return, Floatzel beats all common Rapid Spinners while Zebstrika beats all common Defoggers.
 
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There's a partner to this core that Magnemite talked about in the older NP thread here: http://www.smogon.com/forums/threads/np-stage-2-teardrop-victreebel-banned.3537437/page-3

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Raichu a poem (Raichu) @ Life Orb
Ability: Lightning Rod
Shiny: Yes
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Basically, the addition of Raichu makes this a double Electric core - NP Raichu can break through things like Regice, Lickilicky, SpD Roselia, Piloswine, SpD Clefairy, Grumpig and other stuff that generally walls Zebstrika. Once these checks / counters to Zeb have been removed, this clears the way for Zeb to clean up. It also works in reverse; Zebstrika can wear down Clefairy, Regice, Roselia and Grumpig by pivoting on them, which puts them in range of Raichu's NP / LO boosted attacks. Adding Floatzel to the mix just makes it easier for these Electrics to break past threats like Piloswine, so I think NP Raichu makes a nice addition to this offensive core. It also adds an electric immunity, giving Floatzel protection from Grass (via Zeb's Sap Sipper) and Electric (via Raichu's Lightning Rod) attacks.

So that you don't weaken yourself trying to gain momentum via entry hazards, you'd probably add a Defogger like Vibrava at this point, and possibly another fast U-turn mon like Jumpluff or CB Ninjask.
 
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Next core:
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Misdreavus @ Eviolite
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 248 HP / 216 Def / 44 Spe
Timid Nature
- Shadow Ball
- Will-O-Wisp
- Memento
- Taunt

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Fraxure @ Eviolite
Ability: Mold Breaker
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Dragon Dance
- Outrage
- Poison Jab
- Superpower / Low Kick

Fraxure is gaining popularity lately as a threatening setup sweeper, and Misdreavus helps it setting up Dragon Dance thanks to its access to Memento and Will-O-Wisp support, giving Fraxre an easier time against more offensive teams that leave few setup opportunities to it. Other than that, Misdreavus is also excellent at dealing with most leads such as Piloswine with Taunt and some Speed investment, while also being a moderately good answer to bulky Grass-types such as Tangela and Gourgeist-Super, revengekillers such as Mr. Mime, and also uncommon picks such as Avalugg, which are some of the best stops to Fraxure(mainly the reason for why Shadow Ball is ran), forming a core that can be lethal against unprepared teams that don't carry more than one answer to Fraxire.

You have 3 days to post threats.
 
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Frogadier @ Eviolite
Ability: Protean
EVs: 124 HP / 252 SpA / 132 Spe
Modest Nature
- Scald
- Ice Beam
- Dark Pulse
- Substitute

Frogadier can beat missy by subbing and turning normal type or just dark pulsing twice. Fraxure gets ohko'd by ice beam and lives a outrage in return. Fraxure dies to 2 ice beams if frogs at -2 spatk from memento missy.
 
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Vanilluxe (F) @ Icicle Plate
Trait: Weak Armor
EVs: 252 SAtk / 4 SDef / 252 Spd
IVs: 30 SAtk
Modest Nature (+SAtk, -Atk)
- Taunt
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Electric]
- Ice Shard

almost 2hko's missy while missy does 31 at max, prevents the memento with taunt, kills fraxure. granted it's not the best mon, but come on man, barely anything can beat this core 1v2, cause missy is way too good at doing it's job.,
 
Well, as you said, beating this core requires plenty of checks and good play. Here is a poke that can check the core decently enough:
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Mr. Mime @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Filter
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Dazzling Gleam
- Healing Wish
- Focus Blast/Baton Pass

Mime is notable for being an offensive option for beating this core AFTER the Fraxure gets the dance off. Mime can outspeed Fraxure at +1 and 0hko after rocks, or has a 50/50 on killing without rocks. Mime can also freely come in on Fraxure when locked into Outrage or using Superpower. Mime can also use Healing Wish to heal another counter like Piloswine that may have been weakened by Misdreavus. Just don't switch into Poison Jab and Mime will pressure this core plenty.

252 SpA Mr. Mime Dazzling Gleam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Eviolite Fraxure: 254-300 (93 - 109.8%) -- 56.3% chance to OHKO

+1 252 Atk Mold Breaker Fraxure Superpower vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Mime: 64-76 (28.9 - 34.3%) -- 4.4% chance to 3HKO
252 Atk Mold Breaker Fraxure Poison Jab vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Mr. Mime: 230-272 (104 - 123%) -- guaranteed OHKO RIP

Also I have apparently had this in my drafts completely ready to go since Monday but oh well...

EDIT: So I noticed that Mime is actually addressed in the synopsis of the core, but I would argue that Mime is thorough enough to be a threat regardless of Misdreavus. The fact that Mime holds such a strong ability to revenge kill Fraxure even after setting up forces this core to play more conservatively, which digs into the longevity of the core. Also, the main concept behind the core is for Missy to Memento. If Missy Mementos on anything other than Mime, then Mime can still easily revenge kill and defeat the entire strategy behind the core. Misdreavus certainly beats Mime 1v1, but that is not always enough.
 
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Here have a partner:
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Ninetales @ Life Orb
Ability: Flash Fire
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Nasty Plot
- Substitute
- Fire Blast
- Energy Ball

Fraxure has problems with a few things: Steel-types, bulky Grass, Fairy, Ice, and bulky stall in general. Ninetales helps with all of this.

Klang and Metang are both fried by Ninetales, and Probopass certainly does not want to be weakened from Fire Blast. Tangela and Gourgeist-XL are both dealt with handily by Ninetales, who can 0hko both. Ninetales resists Fairy and has enough special bulk to tank some Dazzling Gleams from Mime and Moonblasts from Clefairy. Ninetales also resists Ice and can deal with Piloswine with a Substitute on the switch and a 2hko with Energy Ball. Nasty Plot helps push Ninetales into a terrifying wallbreaker that can 2hko just about every wall in the tier. Ninetales is also naturally fast, which Fraxure only wishes it was.

Ninetales and Misdreavus don't have a lot of type synergy, but Ninetales does take the burden off of Misdreavus for checking so many threats. This means that Missy doesn't have to come in as much and take less damage in beating checks, letting Missy support for longer and have more opportunities to use Memento. Missy does have Levitate though, so it can avoid the EQs targeted at Ninetales and make a free switch-in for more Will-o-Wisp or the before-mentioned Memento.

This was a bit long, but Ninetales is a great partner for this core that is worth consideration.
 
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Stunfisk @ Leftovers
Ability: Static
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Def / 252 SpD
Calm Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Discharge
- Earth Power
- Scald

compounds your ice weakness but checks mime + provides sr so that sounds good
 
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Arbok @ Shuca Berry
Ability: Intimidate
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Coil
- Gunk Shot
- Sucker Punch
- Aqua Tail

Arbok makes a great partner for this core as it not only appreciates Misdreavus's Memento support, but it also set up on Clefairy fairly well as weakening Mr. Mime with Sucker Punch (Missy handles Mr. Mime well anyway, but added insurance never hurt) while at the same time weakining Probopass with Aqua Tail making it easier on Fraxure to set up Dragon Dance and just click Outrage.
 
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Simipour @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
IVs: 29 HP / 30 SpA
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Hidden Power [Electric] / Grass Knot
- Knock Off

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Raichu @ Life Orb
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 29 HP / 0 Atk / 30 Def
- Nasty Plot
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast
- Hidden Power [Ice]

Knock Off Simipour + Nasty Plot Raichu is a great offensive core that aims to overwhelm special walls, especially bulky Grass-types such as Roselia, by using Knock Off to take away their items (often Eviolite) and by boosting up and breaking through with sheer power in Raichu's case, often allowing one of the two to sweep or at least weaken the opposition.

You have 3 days to post partners. I will also update the OP now.

someone post seaking
 
Reserving Le Deer (Sawsbuck)

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Sawsbuck @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Double-Edge
- Horn Leech
- Baton Pass
- Toxic / Jump Kick

Sawsbuck can switch in after a KO and OHKO both Pokemon in this core with a STAB Double-Edge or Horn Leech.
 
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Gogoat @ Leftovers
Ability: Sap Sipper
EVs: 228 HP / 48 Atk / 232 SpD
Careful Nature
- Bulk Up
- Horn Leech
- Earthquake
- Milk Drink

Gogoat can take multiple hits from both Raichu and Simipour and stay healthy by using Milk Drink.
 
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*Insert fast physical attacker*
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Ninjask @ Choice Band
Ability: Speed Boost
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- X-Scissor
- U-turn
- Aerial Ace
- Night Slash
252+ Atk Choice Band Ninjask X-Scissor vs. 4 HP / 0 Def Simipour: 244-288 (83.5 - 98.6%) -- 68.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ Atk Choice Band Ninjask X-Scissor vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Raichu: 271-321 (103.8 - 122.9%) -- guaranteed OHKO
Not much to explain but both mons have terrible physical bulk (their special bulk isnt much better either). Since their speed is only average i would prefer to run one of these scarf, as they are already two of the best special wallbreakers in the tier
 
Reserve Regice. : ]

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Regice @ Life Orb
Ability: Clear Body
EVs: 4 Def / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Rock Polish
- Ice Beam
- Thunderbolt
- Focus Blast

Rock Polish is an excellent Pokemon to the posted core. Simipour can eliminate dangerous Fire types, such as Flareon and Rapidash while also crippling Hypno and Grumpig by removing their means of passive recovery. Raichu can weaken special walls such as Hypno, Grumpig, and Lickilicky by hitting them hard with a Nasty Plot boosted Thunderbolt.

 
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Roselia @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 160 HP / 252 SpA / 96 Spe
Modest Nature
- Leaf Storm
- Sludge Bomb
- Spikes
- Synthesis

Roselia not only provides Spikes support to weaken Raichu and Simipour's checks, but it also checks a lot of the Pokemon that offensively threaten this core, such as Floatzel.
 
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Mr. Mime @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Filter
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Psychic
- Dazzling Gleam
- Focus Blast
- Healing Wish

So the core itself was a bit slow, so one thing both Raichu and Simipour can appreciate is a revenge killer and a Healing Wish user all in one and Mr. Mime fits the bill perfectly. It can pick off weakened threats to Simipour and Raichu and restore their health so either can sweep again making it a great partner.
 
Thanks for your contributions. Next core:

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Piloswine @ Eviolite
Ability: Thick Fat
EVs: 252 HP / 252 Atk / 4 SpD
Adamant Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Earthquake
- Icicle Crash
- Ice Shard

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Roselia @ Eviolite
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 128 Def / 128 SpD
Calm Nature
- Giga Drain
- Sludge Bomb
- Synthesis
- Spikes / Toxic Spikes

Piloswine and Roselia have great synergy with Piloswine being a good switchin for Ice-, Psychic-, Flying-, and some Fire-types, while Roselia checks most Water- and Grass-types. They also both offer entry hazards in Stealth Rock and (Toxic) Spikes, and form a great defensive backbone to any kind of team.

You have 3 days to post threats to the core.
 
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Monferno @ Eviolite
Ability: Iron Fist
EVs: 216 HP / 252 Atk / 40 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Fire Punch
- Close Combat
- Mach Punch
- Swords Dance

Monferno can deal heavy damage to this core and can setup on roselia.
252+ Atk Iron Fist Monferno Fire Punch vs. 252 HP / 120 Def Eviolite Roselia: 234-276 (76.9 - 90.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ Atk Monferno Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Piloswine: 248-294 (61.3 - 72.7%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Stoutland @ Choice Band
Ability: Scrappy
Happiness: 0
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Frustration
- Facade
- Superpower
- Pursuit

Stoutland can outspeed and 2HKO Piloswine and OHKO Roselia after Stealth Rock while also taking any hit thrown at it from either of them.

252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Superpower vs. 252 HP / 4 Def Eviolite Piloswine: 306-362 (75.7 - 89.6%) -- 18.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

252+ Atk Choice Band Stoutland Return vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Eviolite Roselia: 243-286 (79.9 - 94%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock

0 SpA Roselia Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Stoutland: 106-126 (34 - 40.5%) -- guaranteed 3HKO

252+ Atk Piloswine Earthquake vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Stoutland: 163-193 (52.4 - 62%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
 
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Reserving Simipour.

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Simipour @ Life Orb
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Hydro Pump
- Ice Beam
- Grass Knot
- Low Kick / Knock Off

Simipour is faster than both Pokemon in the posted core and can eliminate Piloswine with Hydro Pump and Roselia with Ice Beam, respectively.

252 SpA Life Orb Simipour Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Piloswine: 385-455 (95.2 - 112.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock

252 SpA Life Orb Simipour Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 128+ SpD Eviolite Roselia: 133-159 (43.7 - 52.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

and if Roselia switches into a Knock Off:

252 SpA Life Orb Simipour Ice Beam vs. 252 HP / 128+ SpD Roselia: 200-237 (65.7 - 77.9%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock
 
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Uh Doing Machoke.

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Machoke @ Eviolite
Ability: Guts
EVs: 160 HP / 252 Atk / 16 Def / 20 SpD / 60 Spe
Adamant Nature
- Close Combat
- Knock Off
- Bullet Punch
- Ice Punch

Machoke threatens this core by knocking off Roselia's and Piloswine's Eviolite, and threatening them with Ice Punch and Close Combat respectively.

252+ Atk Machoke Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Eviolite Piloswine: 78-92 (19.3 - 22.7%) -- possible 5HKO
252+ Atk Machoke Close Combat vs. 252 HP / 0 Def Piloswine: 432-510 (106.9 - 126.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ Atk Piloswine Earthquake vs. 160 HP / 16 Def Eviolite Machoke: 132-156 (38.7 - 45.7%) -- guaranteed 3HKO
252+ Atk Machoke Knock Off (97.5 BP) vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Eviolite Roselia: 96-114 (31.5 - 37.5%) -- 89.1% chance to 3HKO
252+ Atk Machoke Ice Punch vs. 252 HP / 128 Def Roselia: 224-264 (73.6 - 86.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
0 SpA Roselia Sludge Bomb vs. 160 HP / 20 SpD Eviolite Machoke: 96-114 (28.1 - 33.4%) -- 0% chance to 3HKO
 
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Pelipper @ Life Orb
Ability: Keen Eye
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Hurricane
- Hydro Pump
- Tailwind
- Roost

After rocks Pelipper can KO both Roselia and Piloswine with its powerful Life Orb boosted STABs, Hurricane and Hydro Pump.

252+ SpA Life Orb Pelipper Hurricane vs. 252 HP / 128+ SpD Eviolite Roselia: 242-289 (79.6 - 95%) -- 43.8% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock
252+ SpA Life Orb Pelipper Hydro Pump vs. 252 HP / 4 SpD Eviolite Piloswine: 385-455 (95.2 - 112.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock
 
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