Project PU Victim of the Week! Finished

[Katy]

check: poliwrath, hitmonchan
counter: quagsire, pyukumuku

 

[Kilima]

Checks : royesk's Hitmonchan and jonago's Poliwrath
Counters : Sickist's Gurdurr and j0gurt's Quagsire

 

[ChrystalFalchion]

Checks: Dodrio and Simisear
Counters: Quagsire and Gurdurr

 

[rien]

Checks: Dodrio, Poli
Counters: Gurdurr, Quag

 

[Sir Pin]

Checks: jonago's Poliwrath and uhuhuhu7's Manectric
Counters: Sickist's Gurdurr and j0gurt's Quagsire

 

[Lost Soul]

Checks: Poliwrath, Mesprit.
Counters: Gurdurr, Pyukumuku

 

[zoowi]

check - dugtrio-a, simisear
counter - pyuku, carracosta

 

[TheHungrySnorlax]

checks: Poliwrath, Simisear
counters: Quagsire, Gurdurr

 

[Sickist]

Checks: Hitmonchan and Manectric

Counters: Quag and Puke-oo

 

[RydOmega]

Checks: Dodrio & Manectric
Counters: Carracosta & Quagsire

 

[littleshulk]

Checks: Hitmonchan, Poliwrath
Counters: Gurdurr, Quagsire

 

[TJ]

Checks: Poliwrath & Hitmonchan
Counters: Quagsire & Gurdurr

 

[Oathkeeper]

Winners!

Checks​

User	Pokemon	Set
jonago​	​	Specs Poliwrath (8 votes)​
royesk​	​	LO Hitmonchan (5 votes)​

Counters​

User	Pokemon	Set
j0gurt​	​	Unaware Quagsire (11 votes)​
Sickist​	​	Phys.Def Guts Gurdurr (9 votes)​

Very good ideas from all of you. Offensive Alolaslash in the hail can be a pain to deal with if you lack the proper check or counter on your team. This was just a taste of the new idea and hope you all liked it!

Honorable mentions:

Vote counts this week

Checks
Poliwrath - 8
Hitmonchan - 5
Dodrio - 4
Manectric - 4
Simisear - 3
Dugtrio-A - 1
Mesprit - 1
Probopass - 0
Scyther - 0
Sableye - 0

Counters
Quagsire - 11
Gurdurr - 9
Pyukumuku - 4
Carracosta - 2
Gastrodon - 0
Silvally-Water - 0

Top Assassin Standings

j0gurt - 2
jonago - 2
royesk - 1
Sickist - 1

Week 2
Alright, next victim to kill dead is...........

Victreebel @ Life Orb
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Modest Nature
- Solar Beam
- Sludge Bomb
- Weather Ball
- Sleep Powder / Growth

Condition: Sunny Day is active

Voting begins Thursday!​

 

[gum]

Dodrio @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Early Bird
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- Brave Bird
- Jump Kick
- Return
- Knock Off

scarf dod is a check. outspeeds under sun and ohkoes with bbird. gg.

 

[ChrystalFalchion]

Guzzlord @ Assault Vest
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb / Dragon Tail

Assault Vest Guzzlord is a counter to Victreebel in Sun, as it resists Solar Beam and Fire Weather Ball, can stomach Sludge Bomb easily, even at +2, and OHKO back with a sun boosted Fire Blast. If it runs Sleep Powder, Victreebel has to hope Guzzlord stays asleep for 4 turns, which is extremely unlikely.

252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 196 SpD Assault Vest Guzzlord: 144-172 (24.5 - 29.3%) -- 99.8% chance to 4HKO
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 196 SpD Assault Vest Guzzlord: 289-341 (49.2 - 58%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Guzzlord Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel in Sun: 432-510 (143.5 - 169.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

 

[rien]

Aurorus @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Blizzard
- Freeze-Dry
- Earth Power
- Hidden Power Rock​

Scarf Aurorus is an excellent counter to Victrebell. While like any non-Grass it doesn't like switching into Sleep Powder, Aurorus can switch into any of Vic's damage-inducing moves as it turns Solar Beam practically useless by setting hail (even better considering Vic is probably part of a larger sun team) and tanks both Sludge Bomb and Ice-type Weather Ball even at +2, and proceed to outspeed and OHKO Vic with 100% accurate Blizzard.

calcs

252 SpA Aurorus Blizzard vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel: 398-470 (132.2 - 156.1%) -- guaranteed OHKO

252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Aurorus: 94-110 (24.2 - 28.4%) -- 98.3% chance to 4HKO
252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Weather Ball (100 BP Ice) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Aurorus in Hail: 69-82 (17.8 - 21.1%) -- possible 5HKO

 

[Squash]

Scarf aboma

Abomasnow @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Snow Warning
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Hasty Nature
- Blizzard
- Giga Drain
- Focus Blast
- Earthquake

Aboma is a check to victreebel, cause he can’t switch on sludge bomb, but with snow warning + scarf, he outspeed and kill with blizzard 100% accury

 

[Katy]

reserving altaria


Altaria @ Leftovers
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP / 160 SpD / 96 Spe
Calm Nature
- Defog
- Toxic
- Dragon Pulse
- Roost

Altaria is a good check to Victreebel as it can come in on any move, which Victreebel goes for such as Solar Beam, Sludge Bomb and a Weather Ball in the Sun.
Solar beam and Weather Ball, even boosted in Sun, won't do too much to Altaria and Altaria in Return does a decent damage with its move Dragon Pulse.
Altaria also doesn't mind getting Sludge Bomb poisoned as it can use its Ability in Natural Cure to get rid off this hindering status.
Even at +2 due to Growth Altaria is able to withstand Solar Beam and Weather Ball pretty well and can just stall out the Sun turns.
The only noticeable damage is Sludge Bomb after a Growth - but when Victreebel is the Sleep Powder variant Altaria can easily check it throughout the entirety of the Game
because of Natural Cure and also the lack of accuracy Sleep Powder has. In overall Altaria is a good check to that grass/poison pkmn and sun sweeper Victreebel.

Some Calcs:

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at neutral (without Growths boost):
252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Altaria: 43-52 (12.1 - 14.6%) -- possible 9HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Altaria: 133-156 (37.5 - 44%) -- 46.9% chance to 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Altaria in Sun: 73-86 (20.6 - 24.2%) -- 3.1% chance to 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

at +2 due to Growth:
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Solar Beam vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Altaria: 87-103 (24.5 - 29%) -- guaranteed 4HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Sludge Bomb vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Altaria: 263-309 (74.2 - 87.2%) -- 87.5% chance to OHKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Weather Ball (100 BP Fire) vs. 252 HP / 160+ SpD Altaria in Sun: 146-172 (41.2 - 48.5%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock and Leftovers recovery

Altaria Dragon Pulse dmg:
0 SpA Altaria Dragon Pulse vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel: 91-108 (30.2 - 35.8%) -- guaranteed 3HKO after Stealth Rock

 

[Sickist]

Scyther @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Technician
EVs: 252 Atk / 4 Def / 252 Spe
Jolly Nature
- U-turn
- Aerial Ace
- Brick Break
- Knock Off / Bug Bite / Toxic

Cannot switch into Victreebell other than it's Grass STAB and Growth if it's running it but can outrun it and OHKO it even under sun. Therefore, it is a check.

 

[TTK]

Swanna @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Hydration
EVs: 4 Atk / 252 SpA / 252 Spe
Naive Nature
- Hurricane
- Brave Bird
- Scald
- Defog

Scarf swanna is a good check against sun victreebel. Being able to outspeed the plant thing at +2 thanks to scarf, you bop it with your choice of flying-STAB. If you love missing, go for Hurricane. If you want to be masochist and take recoil, use Brave Bird. Either way, they are both guaranteed ohkos from full so it doesn't matter.

 

[j0gurt]

Manectric @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Lightning Rod
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
- Thunderbolt
- Volt Switch
- Flamethrower
- Hidden Power Grass

Manectric serves as a solid check by outspeeding Victreebel under sun and easily OKHOing it with Flamethrower. This set also threatens the majority of sun teams in general, while also being able to Volt Switch on Regirock if you're crafty.

 

[avarice]

Mesprit @ Colbur Berry
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP / 240 Def / 16 Spe
Bold Nature
- Stealth Rock
- Psychic
- U-turn
- Healing Wish/Thunder Wave

tbh I forgot the sun condition was a thing when i first reserved kek
mesprit still eats and smacks back or can cripple or uturn/heal up another threat in if sun is about to end or w/e

 

[Endique]

Shiftry @ Flyinium Z
Ability: Chlorophyll
EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe
Timid Nature
IVs: 0 Atk
- Dark Pulse
- Giga Drain/Energy Ball/Substitute
- Hurricane
- Nasty Plot​

Besides being a pretty decent choice in the meta right now it also checks Victreebel nicely. Thanks to it's higher base speed and it's very own Chlorophyll it is guaranteed to outspeed Chlorophyll Victreebel in AND outside of sun if webs are kept off the field. However, on this set keeping the Z-Hurricane for Victreebel is pretty much key: in sun Hurricane has 50% accuracy and non-Z-boosted Hurricane doesn't actually kill Victreebel unless it was damaged before (but one switch-in on rocks and one Life Orb recoil are enough chip). It can also come in on Solar Beam, Sleep Powder and Growth, but one wrong prediction and you're just sentencing it to death with Sludge Bomb or Sun-boosted Weather Ball. Thanks to it's part dark typing it also resists Victreebel's priority Sucker Punch.

Calcs:
252 SpA Shiftry Supersonic Skystrike (185 BP) vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel: 418-492 (138.8 - 163.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252 SpA Shiftry Hurricane vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel: 248-294 (82.3 - 97.6%) -- guaranteed OHKO after Stealth Rock (note: this is a calc after Victreebel takes one round of Life Orb recoil)
252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Solar Beam vs. 0 HP / 0 SpD Shiftry: 175-207 (54.5 - 64.4%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
+4 252+ Atk Life Orb Victreebel Sucker Punch vs. 0 HP / 0 Def Shiftry: 212-250 (66 - 77.8%) -- guaranteed 2HKO after Stealth Rock

 

[Endique]

Guzzlord @ Assault Vest
Ability: Beast Boost
EVs: 252 SpA / 196 SpD / 60 Spe
Modest Nature
- Draco Meteor
- Dark Pulse
- Fire Blast
- Sludge Bomb / Dragon Tail

Assault Vest Guzzlord is a counter to Victreebel in Sun, as it resists Solar Beam and Fire Weather Ball, can stomach Sludge Bomb easily, even at +2, and OHKO back with a sun boosted Fire Blast. If it runs Sleep Powder, Victreebel has to hope Guzzlord stays asleep for 4 turns, which is extremely unlikely.

252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 196 SpD Assault Vest Guzzlord: 144-172 (24.5 - 29.3%) -- 99.8% chance to 4HKO
+2 252+ SpA Life Orb Victreebel Sludge Bomb vs. 0 HP / 196 SpD Assault Vest Guzzlord: 289-341 (49.2 - 58%) -- 97.7% chance to 2HKO
252+ SpA Guzzlord Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel in Sun: 432-510 (143.5 - 169.4%) -- guaranteed OHKO

On your set with sun up Flamethrower is just as effective as Fire Blast, as it always KOs Vitreebel and has the benefit of not missing. Fire Blast' extra power only matters when sun's not up.
252+ SpA Guzzlord Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel in Sun: 352-416 (116.9 - 138.2%) -- guaranteed OHKO
252+ SpA Guzzlord Flamethrower vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel: 236-278 (78.4 - 92.3%) -- guaranteed 2HKO
252+ SpA Guzzlord Fire Blast vs. 0 HP / 4 SpD Victreebel: 288-340 (95.6 - 112.9%) -- 75% chance to OHKO

 

[Leni]

Muk @ Black Sludge
Ability: Sticky Hold
EVs: 252 HP / 4 Atk / 252 SpD
Careful Nature
- Poison Jab
- Curse
- Rest
- Sleep Talk

Muk pretty much walls Victreebell. Overall Victreebell is pretty much tickling Muk and with neutral attack can hit back with respective 50% pjab. We really don't mind having a curse vs. strengh sap war, because after all we end up having max def for free.

Here the calcs:
Solar Beam 20 - 23.9% plausable 6HKO after black sludge
Sludge Bomb 14.9 - 17.8% plausable 8HKO after black sludge
Weather Ball 26.3 - 31.1% plausable 4HKO after black sludge