Raikou team, that has beaten a lot of good battlers. Climbing the ladder as well

Hello, i am currently using a Raikou team on the Shoddy Battle ladder. It is very offensive in a sense. I hate using big and stallish types walls. I tend to love to ATTACK, ATTACK and ATTACK some more. So the team was revolved around Raikou, so here it goes. Also my team isn't mainly about "Specified Counters" My team just has a superb type coverage element to it.

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Gyarados @ Leftovers
212 HP / 100 Defense / 16 Attack / 176 speed. Adamant Nature
~ Dragon Dance
~ Ice Fang
~ Earthquake
~ Taunt
Gyarados is an awesome lead, even though he doesn't have the speed to quite match up with most leads but meh, Intimidate is great. I opted for so much speed, was because to outrun Starmie after a DD, i have a few Pokemon that force Starmie out, and leave it weakened while switching out, so to speak. Also helps vs Gengar ( after i know it isn't scarfed ) The speed also lets me Taunt Breloom's before they try and Spore me. Ice Fang + Earthquake is there for the coverage, even though sometimes Bronzong is a pain, but Taunt puts him in the null seat so meh. I went with Earthquake + Ice Fang over Waterfall + Stone Edge, is because i'm sick and tired of Garchomp. Most flyer's such as Zapdos and Togekiss, will be weakened by Stealth Rock, so Stone Edge isn't a MUST. Out speeding Infernape after 1 DD always puts a devilish glow in my eyes :naughty:. He is also is my counter to Swampert, one of the things that stop my Raikou cold.

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Snorlax @ Leftovers
244 HP / 176 Special Defense / 22 Attack / 66 Defense. Impish Nature
~ Body Slam
~ Crunch
~ Rest
~ Sleep Talk
Every team in my eyes needs someone to absorb status. Snorlax just does that the best, because he lacks a recovery move. He is my first Gengar switch in, to scout for Hypnosis or Shadow Ball. Unlike Blissey, Snorlax isn't as much of a set up fodder. Snorlax can really screw in coming sweepers with nice damage from Body Slam, along with a paralysis. Although i am thinking about adding Brick Break or Earthquake over Body Slam, but i must admit that the Body Slam paralysis has saved my ass a bunch of times. But Tyranitar and Lucario are two common switch ins, and Tyranitar doesn't give a damn about being paralysis, and Lucario usually has 1 or 2 priority moves, so he isn't exactly ruined as though an Infernape may be.

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Swampert @ Leftovers
240 HP / 252 Defense / 16 Attack Impish Nature.
~ Stealth Rock
~ Roar
~ Avalanche
~ Earthquake
Yes i know the Ice Quake is yet appeared again, but i'm very cautious of Garchomp. Swampert is also a poke that can switch in, to Tyranitar ( a Pokemon that is a hell of a job by his self.) At least he is my Stone Edge switch in, i have a Pokemon to deal with Crunch. Also we all know how much of a pain Metagross can be, # 1 counter right here. He also sets up rocks, and roars out Curse Lax's or Calm Mind Cune ( for as long as he can )
Also my first switch in to Garchomp, i can tell by damages what type it is, or if it Swords Dances or not.

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Gengar @ Black Sludge
252 Special Attack / 252 Speed / 4 HP. Timid Nature
~ Hypnosis
~ Focus Blast
~ Shadow Ball
~ Thunderbolt

Gengar with his many immunities and wide variety of options as a Pokemon, is a scare to most, if not all teams. He is my switch in to Heracross some of the time. Also CS or CB Earthquaking Garchomps as well. I tend to always have to put Blissey to sleep and it stalls me out of Focus Blast. I don't like Life Orb on Gengar because he has decent immunities to last long, and he is needed during the game. Life Orb, Stealth Rock and Sandstorm isn't a good look for Gengar. Also helps if a find i'm about to get tricked from a Pokemon like Persian, or Alakazam, poisoning them and receiving a choice item from Alakazam won't be that bad. Also since i lack Blissey, i like to bait Porygon-z to Tri- Attack, then send in Gengar to wall it. Also my switch in to Gyarados if i'm sure it will DD. I'm not running scarf because, my team is fast enough, and also, i want the chance of atleast attempting to hit Tyranitar before it Pursuits me to hell. Also he outruns Infernape and Garchomp if push comes to shove. I want to change this to a Sub Punching set SO SO SO bad, but i love Hypnosis, and i feel i need Thunderbolt. I often seem to run into Blissey without any attacking move to hit Gengar so often. Then Gengar can really rip their team apart. Also helps for the shitty accuracy Focus Blast has. REALLY NEED YOUR HELP ON DECIDING!

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Heatran @ Life Orb
252 Special Attack / 236 Speed / 28 HP. Timid Nature
~ Explosion
~ Hidden Power ( Grass )
~ Fire Blast
~ Earth Power
This is the Pokemon that helps this team go. The fact he can 2hko Salamence and most of the time outspeed it if Stealth Rock is up is KEY! Also if a Fire Blast a Heatran, they usually think i'm Choice Itemed, which lets me Earth Power the next time for a KO. Also Heatran baits out Swampert ( in a sense ) and lets me HP Grass it, to get rid of it for Raikou, then when i need to Explode on Blissey to get rid of it as well, for Raikou. Also my switch in to Bronzong after it puts Snorlax to sleep. Lets not forgot it's my Scizor counter and Celebi counter, who i hate a lot. Hail Teams also have a lot of trouble with him. He also outruns Heracross and users trying to out speed Heracross with a few speed points.

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Raikou @ Leftovers
252 Speed / 64 HP / 96 Special Attack / 96 Special Defense. Timid Nature
~ Substitute
~ Calm Mind
~ Hidden Power Ice
~ Thunderbolt
Raikou is such a cool, cool Pokemon. The fact he can sweep 5 pokes if Blissey or Snorlax is dead is so cool. He outspeed a lot of threats, which means i can run to him if i need a kill. Also he can set up on Cresselia or Celebi and mainly pressure stall a Magnezone, or Calm Mind up on that too. He pushes Gyarados and Starmie and has saved my ass in numerous battles. Down 3-1 to Curt, brought me back to win the game. Raikou needs a place in everyone hearts, and he deserve to be though of highly among this Metagame.

I would like your comments and rates please. Don't be shy to bash on a few things, offensive teams seems to have a lot of trouble, but are very hard to defend against. So please have some constructive criticism.
 
just max spd and satk on raikou

try giving gengar life orb and explosion w/ 200 atk so you have another way to deal with bliss and lax

lax should be replaced for something more offensive that can deal w/ gyara. i dont think status absorbers are necessary on offensive teams
 
just max spd and satk on raikou

try giving gengar life orb and explosion w/ 200 atk so you have another way to deal with bliss and lax

lax should be replaced for something more offensive that can deal w/ gyara. i dont think status absorbers are necessary on offensive teams

Well, i need Gengar,so blowing it up wouldn't be the best idea = / Also Snorlax is fine, or else Gengar walks my team, also Snorlax is my main counter to Blissey and helps keeps the flow of my team going.
 
I unno but I'd probably Scarf the Gengar or Heatran or something seeing as how Gyarados can just you know, sweep the whole team....
 
I unno but I'd probably Scarf the Gengar or Heatran or something seeing as how Gyarados can just you know, sweep the whole team....

Gyarados probably won't outspeed Raikou or Gengar, also a DD'd waterfall doesn't kill Gengar anyway. Snorlax can Body Slam it, while Gyarados can keep switching in to intimidate it.
 
also a DD'd waterfall doesn't kill Gengar anyway

Adamant +1 Gyarados 0 Atk EVs Waterfall vs 4/0 Gengar = 99.62% - 117.18%

I certainly wouldn't count on it being slower than 'Kou either, as a lot of players aim to outspeed Starmie after a DD.

I'm more concerned about your Blissey weak though. Your team seems to be based around wearing down the opponent to allow Raikou a sweep, but your only way of defeating Blissey is by blowing up your Heatran? I guess you could eventually stall her out with Snorlax, but it just doesn't seem like a good plan. A good Raikou team should have a good Blissey killer, period. I'd link you to Misty's old Raikou team, bit it appears to have died in the purge. Shame.
 
Well, seeing as how we can't actually determine Gyarados's speed in attack, I'll just use a recent RMT posted like 2 minutes ago by someone. They happen to use Max speed/attack, which in turn would, I would assume, OHKO both Gengar and Raikou while outspeeding them both as well...

349 attack vs 166 defense, 80 power(*1.5 *1.5), 262 max HP: 104.2% - 122.52%
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Adamant +1 Gyarados 0 Atk EVs Waterfall vs 4/0 Gengar = 99.62% - 117.18%

I certainly wouldn't count on it being slower than 'Kou either, as a lot of players aim to outspeed Starmie after a DD.

I'm more concerned about your Blissey weak though. Your team seems to be based around wearing down the opponent to allow Raikou a sweep, but your only way of defeating Blissey is by blowing up your Heatran? I guess you could eventually stall her out with Snorlax, but it just doesn't seem like a good plan. A good Raikou team should have a good Blissey killer, period. I'd link you to Misty's old Raikou team, bit it appears to have died in the purge. Shame.

317 attack vs 166 defense, 120 power(*1.5), 287 max HP: 86.06% - 101.39% (12.5% OHKO, 52 more points required for OHKO) Also i needed a Swampert killer and a Blissey killer in one, and Heatran does the job. most of the fighting pokes didn't fit. Heatran baits Blissey and Swampert, what more could i ask for. Also if Gyarados lacks Taunt, i go to Swampert, if it lacks Earthquake i go to Raikou, and if it lacks Stone Edge i can simply go to my Gyarados. I have plenty of ways to beat Gyarados. But as crazy as it might sounds, i thought i would have the same problem dealing with Blissey but i never have.
 
Use Leftovers on Gengar. You say that he's your Trick absorber, so instead of giving Alakazam Black Sludge (which is can Trick to another on of your team, and cripple them as well), Alakazam will normally just stop with Leftovers.

I really love Raikou teams. I wouldn't change Gengar to a Sub Punching set, considering you need to run either a Life Orb, or a significant number of attack EV's to 2HKO Blissey. However, Taunt may be a option worth considering. It takes up less moveslots compared to a SubPunch set, and Taunt is a usful move in general, not to mention it completely shuts down Blissey.

I agree with MoP, consider changing Heatran or Gengar to a Choice Scarf set, because Gyarados does potentially give this team a ton of problems. Even though your own Gyarados is a decent switch once or twice, if your opponent is carrying Stone Edge, it's going to be a rough time for you. A more offensive DD Gyarados will also outspeed Gengar after a Dragon Dance, and will OHKO. Minimum damage from a 383 attack, +1 Gyarados vs Gengar is 120% with Waterfall. Swampert and Snorlax will take more hits to go down, but repeated Waterfalls will quickly wear out Swampert.

I can't really say much other than that though.
 
As i am looking now, if i run into a offensive Gyarados, i may be almost screwed. So i will look into things to maybe help wear that down, Stealth Rock really helps, but i ma consider changing Stealth Rock to Hidden Power Electric.
 
317 attack vs 166 defense, 120 power(*1.5), 287 max HP: 86.06% - 101.39%

Your Gengar has 262 HP, not 287. Regarding Blissey, it sounds like you have a plan but it just seems very dangerous. If you don't time your Explosion perfectly, you're gonna have a VERY difficult time getting around her.
 
Your Gengar has 262 HP, not 287. Regarding Blissey, it sounds like you have a plan but it just seems very dangerous. If you don't time your Explosion perfectly, you're gonna have a VERY difficult time getting around her.

Oh, sorry about that Gengar nod ._. Also yea i have plan, if it works i may be screwed as well. I may have to look into that
 
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