Rain Dance/ Platinum Additions

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Bronzong @ Damp Rock
Ability: Levitate
EVs: 252 HP/ 128 Def/ 128 SDef
Impish Nature
-Rain Dance
-Hypnosis
-Stealth Rock
-Explosion​

This thing is usually the best at setting up rain as long as it doesnt get OHKOED; Stealth Rock lets me add some residual damage. Explosion hasnt really been helpful when coming up against fire attacks but any other time its been pretty useful.​

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Kabutops @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 200 HP/ 252 Atk/ 56 Spe
Adamant Nature
-Aqua Jet
-Stone Edge
-Night Slash
-Super Power​

Phyical Sweeper it break physical walls like nothing and can take a few hits. I was running Knock off but Slash has more power might switch to Rapid Spin to handle spikes and rocks. Jet over water wall or tail to let it hit ape/heatran if rains fizzles out. Stone Edge Stab; Super Power just for knocks pure power to break blissey who abuses my rain sometimes, take out steels, and Dark types although T-Tar and Weavile are OHKOED by Aqua jet/Edge anyway.​


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Kingdra @ Life Orb
Ability: Swift Swim
EVs: 200 HP/ 252 SAtk/ 56 Spe
Modest Nature
-Draco Meteor
-Hydro Pump
-Hidden Power [Electric]
-Rain Dance​

Special Sweeper i used to run Ice Beam on him but all it hits are Dragon & Flyers, Ground and Grass all but 1 are covered by other attacks. HP Ele lets me hit bulky waters and flyers. i added Rain Dance because 3 was a bit risky especially once bronzong dies.​



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Jirachi @ Damp Rock
Ability: Serene Grace
EVs: 252 HP/ 80 Def/ 176 SDef
Bold Nature
-Rain Dance
-Thunder
-U-Turn
-Wish​

Jirachi the Rain Maker in rain team you of course need something to abuse Thunder's 100% Accuracy what better than this little guy. Serves as the 2nd Dance Setter Thunder has 60% chance to paralyze with Serene Grace and U-Turn hits Grass types and Dark/Psychic. U-Turn outta rain to one of my 2 sweepers or set up wish and U-Turn out to Heal.​


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Roserade @ Black Sludge
Ability: Natural Cure
EVs: 252 HP/ 252 Spe/ 4 SAtk
Timid Nature
-Grass Knot
-Sleep Powder
-Toxic Spikes
-Leech Seed​

This is combo with Zong's Stealth rock gives this team a bit of an stall element which helps it only real job is to Sleep set up Toxi Spikes 2 Layers; Grass Knot for stab move was running leaf storm but this set is less attack oriented Leech for an added stall element.​


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Swampert @ Choice Scarf
Ability: Torrent
EVs: 4 HP/ 252 SAtk/ 252 Speed
Timid Nature
-Surf
-Earth Power
-Ice Beam
-Focus Blast​

I decided to change the previous set to one simlar to that of Scarftran. This things coverage is pretty wide and things with Grass that are faster than 360; are Skymin which on PBR is non-existent Sceptile and Deoxys all Forms which CAN carry knot. HP Grass Jolteon could pose a threat but most dont run it they use Bolt/Beam coverage so ill be fine; Mewtwo Starmie a bunch of ther misc Grass Knot pokes, but none of the above listed besides Sceptile have a real reason to carry Grass Knot/HP Grass/ LeafStorm. Now it doesnt have the special atk to be as great as Scarftran but it has the type coverage to cause alot of strife.​



Its Rain Team that I think works pretty well BTW this is for 3 on 3 PBR Wi-Fi. Rate away!​
 
This looks like a solid Rain Dance team, I would give Swampert Waterfall over Aqua Tail, because sure Aqua Tail may have more power, but Waterfall has 100% accuracy.
 
I'd change Kabutops to the Swords Dance variant, with something along the lines of Swords Dance/Waterfall/Stone Edge/X-Scissor. This is a much better moveset for sweeping, which in a Rain Team is what you want to do. Also, both Night Slash and Superpower are useless when you have a Swords Dance'd, Rain Boosted Waterfall to use in their place.

Aqua Jet over X-Scissor is okay if you are paranoid about the rain being down. It's good to have something to take on Bulky Grasses like Celebi though, which takes little damage from all your other Pokemon.

Also, what's with Scarf Swampert lol? It seems a bit pointless to be scarfing something as slow as it, especially in a Rain team when you have the option of abusing Swift Swim. You have the EV's wrong too, btw.

How does 3 on 3 PBR work? Is it like Doubles, where your opponent chooses your Pokemon?
 
Winto said:
I'd change Kabutops to the Swords Dance variant, with something along the lines of Swords Dance/Waterfall/Stone Edge/X-Scissor. This is a much better moveset for sweeping, which in a Rain Team is what you want to do. Also, both Night Slash and Superpower are useless when you have a Swords Dance'd, Rain Boosted Waterfall to use in their place.

Aqua Jet over X-Scissor is okay if you are paranoid about the rain being down. It's good to have something to take on Bulky Grasses like Celebi though, which takes little damage from all your other Pokemon.

Also, what's with Scarf Swampert lol? It seems a bit pointless to be scarfing something as slow as it, especially in a Rain team when you have the option of abusing Swift Swim. You have the EV's wrong too, btw.

How does 3 on 3 PBR work? Is it like Doubles, where your opponent chooses your Pokemon?
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The scarf pert is basically just testing i wanted to try something new Ludi was in its place but its sucked and served no purpose. X-scissor useless hits psychic and dark which are already hit by Super Power and Night Slash. Not to worried about Celebi Roserade shows it who's boss. Didnt want a mix dra because wanted 2 solid sweepers and didnt want to split the stats. on

SDancing not in my scope of things never been one for much stating up the HP is there to help make em sturdy but it doesnt have the stats to SDance w/o the worry of being 2hkoed and in rain every turn counts and wasting a useless dance can be deadly.
 
donovantx8 said:
The scarf pert is basically just testing i wanted to try something new Ludi was in its place but its sucked and served no purpose. X-scissor useless hits psychic and dark which are already hit by Super Power and Night Slash. Not to worried about Celebi Roserade shows it who's boss. Didnt want a mix dra because wanted 2 solid sweepers and didnt want to split the stats. on

SDancing not in my scope of things never been one for much stating up the HP is there to help make em sturdy but it doesnt have the stats to SDance w/o the worry of being 2hkoed and in rain every turn counts and wasting a useless dance can be deadly.
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If you're just 'testing' Scarfpert that's fine I guess...

X-Scissor, is, albeit, not going to be your main attacking move, but it is far from useless. It's main purpose is to hit Celebi, which comfortably walls the majority of your team.

How exactly does Roserade 'show it whose boss'? With Leech Seed and Grass Knot? While you will be Grass Knotting it, even 0 Sp. Attack Celebi will be 2HKOing you with Psychic.

Lastly, you say yourself that in the rain, every turn counts? How does a move that DOUBLES your attack possibly be useless then? Also, considering that Waterfall has essentially 180 BP under the rain, there is absolutely no reason you should be using Night Slash and Superpower.
 
Winto said:
If you're just 'testing' Scarfpert that's fine I guess...

X-Scissor, is, albeit, not going to be your main attacking move, but it is far from useless. It's main purpose is to hit Celebi, which comfortably walls the majority of your team.

How exactly does Roserade 'show it whose boss'? With Leech Seed and Grass Knot? While you will be Grass Knotting it, even 0 Sp. Attack Celebi will be 2HKOing you with Psychic.

Lastly, you say yourself that in the rain, every turn counts? How does a move that DOUBLES your attack possibly be useless then? Also, considering that Waterfall has essentially 180 BP under the rain, there is absolutely no reason you should be using Night Slash and Superpower.
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The shoddy meta game is diff from the PBR 3vs metagame there are no celebis at least i have never seen one it non-competitive not much walling going on what kinda celebi runs psychic not a defensive one not any ive seen anyway. SDs Kabotops is pretty fragile and ele-moved not coming form a physical attacker will kill it; cant risk mispredicting a switch for a little extra damge i have never had problems with Kabotops not koing anything anyway.
 
Contrary to your belief, SD Kabutops in the rain is a very potent wall breaker, and in the rain, you can't afford to waste turns constantly switching between Pokemon to combat the opponents defenses.

With that being said, Kabutops should be a Swords Dancer with Waterfall, X-Scissor (for Celebi), and Stone Edge (for flying types). You already are faster than virtually everything due to swift swim, and Kabutops forces many switches, giving you ease in Swords Dancing.

With the addition of Platinum, Kingdra can also go mixed to combat with Blissey. A set like Hydro Pump/Outrage/Draco Meteor/HP Electric would work decently as well.

Essentially, rain is about maximizing the output of your sweepers, and as of now, you're sweepers aren't getting passed common wall combinations.
 
Twist of Fate said:
Contrary to your belief, SD Kabutops in the rain is a very potent wall breaker, and in the rain, you can't afford to waste turns constantly switching between Pokemon to combat the opponents defenses.

With that being said, Kabutops should be a Swords Dancer with Waterfall, X-Scissor (for Celebi), and Stone Edge (for flying types). You already are faster than virtually everything due to swift swim, and Kabutops forces many switches, giving you ease in Swords Dancing.

With the addition of Platinum, Kingdra can also go mixed to combat with Blissey. A set like Hydro Pump/Outrage/Draco Meteor/HP Electric would work decently as well.

Essentially, rain is about maximizing the output of your sweepers, and as of now, you're sweepers aren't getting passed common wall combinations.
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for the last time its a diff metagame on PBR i have not once seen a celebi >.> is there s section for competent people dont post in this thread anymore your not allowed two open RMT if i recall dont wanna get an infranction.
 
I see this all the time in Rain Dance teams. Bronzong = NO. He'll most likely get taunted so he's useless. Then the opponent can set up.
ex. Aerodactyl- Stealth Rocks
Gyarados- DDs
Use something fast, like Electrode. He can Taunt, Light Screen, Rain Dance, Explode, Thunder, etc.

Hope I helped your lead.
 
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